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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/3/2009 5:59:03 PM

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If it's any consolation, I have been hearing from a number of Generation Y submissives who have contacted me, asking information about how to be a better submissive. People might be shocked at the number of submissives (both female and male) who contact me for advice, even though I'm still convinced that I'm still trying to figure out what I'm doing myself. Over the last few months, I've been contacted by quite a few younger submissives who have indicated frustration with being unable to figure out what it is that attracts a dominant woman. I'd think that should bode well in the respect that at least there are some of them out there who are taking the time and effort to try to find out what might or might not work and what one can do to make oneself a more attractive submissive.

Granted, in a numbers game, the trolls will massively outnumber the non-trolls, but at least we should feel somewhat satiated with the thought that there are a few who are trying to learn from those who came before in hopes of being good submissives themselves.

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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/3/2009 6:17:52 PM

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Sodsta, I agree! I prefer to date people who are within 10 years of my age, but am willing to consider people a little below (21+) or above (usually under 50, but made one exception). So, I've been contacted by Generation Y, Generation X, and Babyboomer men, and haven't really noticed a correlation in age and seriousness/articulation/etc. I've had trouble with submissive men being more of the wanker/spammer type than Doms or switches for some weird reason, but have had a few interesting submissive men contact me in all three categories. As to the political aspect, pretty much the same thing was said about me and other Gen-Xers not very long ago, and if anything, the Boomers were even more dramatic about questioning authority! Most 20-somethings, at every point in America's history, have felt apathetic and disenfranchised, and become more politically engaged as they get older - it's nothing new.

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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/3/2009 6:20:05 PM

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“Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food, and tyrannize their teachers." --Socrates (circa 469 BCE-399 BCE)

Oh yes, today's generation is really different...just like the one before it.

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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/3/2009 7:11:29 PM

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I'm on the tail-end of GenX, thus within touching distance of GenY. I notice that I share more of the GenX traits but I respect passion and conviction in folks of any age.
I do agree that the op has an anti-GenY bent to it. I know very little about GenY relationally speaking (Though I think the person I've been seeing is a GenY-er, that'll be good for yet another giggle over me getting old < sigh >< smile >) and none at all from a empirical relational D/s sense. Younger isn't usually my preference but I've broken that 'rule' because of an interest in an individual, not an age range.
People are people, regardless of the demographic. I have fascinating friends and people in my life from shorter than me and in single digits on up to folks beyond the age of beginning to collect social security.
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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/4/2009 6:15:31 AM

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aidan..i am 56 years old and honestly,i have done nothing to make headlines nationally,or have i shaken the earth to make people take a second look at me.I didn't publicly march or denounce the Vietnam war or march for gay rights nor have i attached myself politically to any bandwagon.I have always tried to keep to mysel and not stir trouble out of respect for my parents.Did we have our differences??You bet we did but all those things they taught me over the years where i and any 20 year old would be scratching his head saying you have to be kidding right??Those things turned out to be true at various times in my life.So with that as a backdrop,i'll tell you how i have changed the world.Again nothing major,my name will not be on everyone's lips when i die but this is what i did in my lifetime:i volunteered to help put together stage shows for senior citizens and also went to the local nursing home every Christmas to sing carols,i volunteered my time to help deliver food to the elderly and i also volunteered my services to feed people of all ages,and of all races.Unfortunately,i buried my oldest brother at the ripe old age of 52 and then shortly afterwards,watched in horror as my father had not one but two strokes as i dialed 911 for help.H elived another 5 years but the damage was done.A man so strong even at age 79 struck down in an instant.Not long after that,my mother became a dementia and soon after that alzheimers patient.For eleven years and a half,i sacrificed my life and my good times to care for my parents.Every single day going to a nursing home..shaving my father,having to wasj my mother at first before she was admitted to the nursing home herself.I forgot to add that i has a mild heart attack myself but still worked three jobs,took care of the folks and their needs,and took care of the house as well.No one helped me until the very end for my mom was the last to pass away at age 86.Do you know why i did all this??Do you have a clue??In a word...respect.The difference between the respect i always gave my elders and the respect you are commanding from your elders is as wide as the chasm of the Grand Canyon.You want my respect??Earn it!!!Barely twewnty years on earth and you are demanding that my generation respect you???What have we done for you lately??Am i getting the wrong impression here??Or are you really just a pissant 20 year old who thinks my generation owes you a favor??Guess what boy wonder??I'll tell you what i told my niece and a couple of my nephews after the excused themselves from ever seeing their grandfather or grandmother in the nursing home because it reminded them of their dead father(my brother)lying on a cold slab in the emergency room.Life sucks..grow up and deal with it!!

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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/4/2009 7:21:04 AM

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god only hopes you don't get moded little one--though your response is passionate and heartlfelt--

I think the point here is experience and how it relates to anothers frame of reference--- I would not agree that experience is age related--young Katrina victims grew up quickly, youngUms with two parents in Iraq grow up quickly, My UM is wise beyond her years due to our life, My travel, the relationship she had with her grandmother-where we fall off the log of perfection is where we say, " I am older, I am experienced, I am wiser", or " I am younger, I am with the times"--when in reality, both those statements hold an amount of arrogance and ignorance.

IMHO, I need the new generation, they are the trailblazers of tomorrow for new things, I can't carry that torch much longer--I need the older generation, for they carry the torch for changes based on history and experience. Without either of those, we are doomed to be too old or too new, its as silly as male over female superiority--young versus old superiority---however, when I lie down at night, in the dark of the night I seek someone who can simply say ahh, yes, I know how that is--based on My frame of reference.

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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/4/2009 9:22:04 AM

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quote:

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Do you know why i did all this??Do you have a clue??In a word...respect.

Perhaps. I think the word you're looking for is "love", actually--I "respect" plenty of people that I wouldn't take care of while they withered, suffered and died. I suppose that doing those things for someone you do not love might fall under the heading of "duty", but even then I think it's far more likely for people to feel a sense of duty to parents who raised them with love.

I'm not going to get into the details of my own personal life or Aidan's here, because I don't particularly like discussing such matters in a public forum. I doubt that he will be much impressed by your foaming-at-the-mouth, name-calling approach, however, and the way you speak about younger people definitely makes me think that you have no children or younger people in your own life. When it comes to "having a clue", you really don't seem to understand the investment in the future that love AND respect for the young represents. Trying to bully, beat or torture future generations into blind obedience to authority does not make the world a better place. Teaching them to respect themselves and others by modeling the behavior yourself does.

It sounds to me as if you have spent your whole life in service to your elders in one way or another. This is a good thing: a life of service to others is noble regardless of whether it is "nothing big". When it comes to community service, Aidan tends to gravitate more toward caring for children and the homeless--I suppose that many of the people he has provided meals to might be his "elders", but it wasn't their age he was focusing on.

Either way, if you think you are morally superior to him just because you are three times his age, I think you're sadly mistaken. I see nothing in this diatribe that earns you the right to take this tone with him or anyone else on these forums, of any age. I'd suggest you get a grip on yourself and tone down the hysteria a notch.

One thing I pick up from posts like this is the sense that older people have very unrealistic expectation of the younger generation. Namely, they expect young people today to feel some sort of moral obligation to be clones of their elders--to reproduce exactly the attitudes and power relationships of some other era. The fact that this is impossible--socially, politically, economically and personally--doesn't seem to concern them at all. There is zero recognition that the world has changed since the 1950's, 1960's, 1970's, 1980's--that people are growing up and coming to adulthood in very different conditions and that they have to adapt themselves to the real world here and now--not the world that existed thirty-fifty years ago.

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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/4/2009 9:35:02 AM

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Every generation thinks that the younger generation is immature, undisciplined, and their music isn't any good. It's just a symptom of getting older. There are some older guys who are awful and some young boys who are great. Let's give the young people a chance.

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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/4/2009 10:03:37 AM

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Yes, Generation Y... all we are is bad kids!

Generational culture wars go on ad infinitum, and I doubt things would have been much different twenty years ago with a similar age gap. I don't doubt GenerationY will disparage younger ones, too, once we reach upper-middle age en masse.

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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/4/2009 11:03:09 AM

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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/4/2009 12:30:38 PM

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Did you have to walk twelve miles to school with no shoes in the snow too? I really hated that! hehe

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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/4/2009 12:33:19 PM

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I remember doing that when I was young--which was many, many years from where I am today. We had to talk half a mile--no joke--in the snow. And it wasn't like snow today---where it is everywhere one day and then gone the next. And you know what, we did it. Now a days, even at the hint of snow, the schools close down and everyone just wants to sit back and do nothing.

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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/4/2009 12:51:25 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

Did you have to walk twelve miles to school with no shoes in the snow too? I really hated that! hehe

And it was all uphill--both ways.

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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/4/2009 1:14:09 PM

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Cold feet are a hard limit. Why do you think the boys sit at My feet? To keep them warm, of course.

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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/4/2009 1:50:49 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

Did you have to walk twelve miles to school with no shoes in the snow too? I really hated that! hehe

And it was all uphill--both ways.

With frozen hair. Because we didn't have hot water or a blow dryer.

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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/4/2009 5:07:07 PM

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quote:

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Every generation thinks that the younger generation is immature, undisciplined, and their music isn't any good.

Don't forget that their fashion sense is deplorable

"Don't trust anyone over 30"
-today's 60-year-olds, 40 years ago

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Cold feet are a hard limit. Why do you think the boys sit at My feet? To keep them warm, of course.

'Tis the season for the ultimate act of Domme Evil- sticking icy cold toes of doom in your boxers to warm them up!

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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/6/2009 7:53:33 AM

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From appearances and reading profiles and comments of this generation they do seem to be more accepting of who they are. I didn't have that luxury and have been closeted. This also applies to the dominant females, they are much more open and I think they would laugh at the concept of being raised to please a man.

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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/6/2009 11:02:38 AM

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Here we go. in some ways this is as good as Jerry Springer. in other ways, a good row is healthy on Friday and yet in still other ways its a little tiresome. it would be better if everybody got on with everyone else unless they give us an excuse not to like them no matter what generation they are from Y X OR Z

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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/6/2009 1:01:40 PM

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What happens if you are a Y but feel like an X, but are considered a Y even though you really believe you are an X because that's how you feel and act? Or are an X, but feel like a Y and you get messed with because you are an X rather than a Y? Or what if you are a blend between a Y and a X? I mean all these X's and Y's can get confusing and kind of meaningless when it comes to just being who you are... no matter what and enjoying your life.

Lockit... going to take all the X and Y magnets off the fridge!

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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/6/2009 1:15:26 PM

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I figured out what my problem is. All the magnets on my fridge are the weird yahoo smiley faces that I got free. And the one that was printed here where I work, that is a cartoon character of all of us, in a police line up.

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