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dryfsys -> RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. (3/20/2009 3:31:38 PM)

i quitted after 10 years of smoking -ended up  two packets a day--   i did two things  at first i counted out how much money was involved  and made a automatic transistion to my savings account..that served two ways...1  i had already spent the money, and 2 i saw the money back in my savings account, which was quite a considerable amount..

after one year i went to a shop and bougth a very expensive video-recorder...which otherwise would have gone - literally- up in smoke...(i stopped  22 years ago)



second  i never said...ive quitted  -which could imply  that i could just take a cigarett..just one
in stead i said....i dont smoke....

every time you say that to someone  it also confirms the fact mentally that you dont smoke

amd furthermore...just dont let anyone drive you mad....just dont smoke  anymore       nothing more nothing less

succes   Will




Mikalsheart -> RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. (3/20/2009 6:29:16 PM)

i quit cold turkey 14 years ago when my then 2 yr.old said mommy you tink(stink)....it was hard.....there have been many times i have craved just one.....there are times i will walk past a smoker and "sniff" them.......then other times the smell makes me sick.... i cannot imagine smoking now with the prices .........and the cost of treating the diseases they cause...

don't talk about it...just do it!!!!!!




YoursMistress -> RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. (3/20/2009 7:51:19 PM)

Miss Sultana, 

I quit about 10 years ago using a combo technique.  First, I stopped smoking for about a week after deciding that they were just too expensive (about a pack a day, Kools).  Then, I went out partying one night (in New York state, bars open till 4 am).  I bought a back at 1:30 am and smoked the whole pack in about 2 hours.  The next morning when I woke up, BLEH!  I never really wanted another one.  Good luck and good health to you!

yours




VampiresLair -> RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. (3/20/2009 7:54:31 PM)

My younger brother is trying to stop using something called an electronic cigarette. It slowly changes the mix of nicotine and mint flavor you get in a water vapor solution, without taking away the sensations of smoking, having something to do with your hands and the like. So far, he and all the friends he is trying to quit with have successfully cut WAY back. He is down to 2 real cigarettes a day from 2 packs a day and that is in only a week or so.

DV




babygurlrides -> RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. (3/22/2009 9:55:44 PM)

Sultana..I hope your wisdom teeth extraction went well.
I quit smoking in 1984.. cold turkey. I had been smoking since the age of 11. The thing that helped me the most, was mental imagery. I had to really redefine my own image. In those days... at the bar, for example, there was the smoking section, and the non smoking section. I had to concentrate seeing myself sitting in the non smoking section... I had to concentrate on visualizing myself in the car, without a cigarette in my hand, or sitting on the toilet without a cigarette, or having coffee without my smoke. Mental imagery. Once I actually could visualize myself in these ways, I found it easier to let the habit go.
Something about Wellbutrin: I was prescribed it for depression about 8 years ago (I was on Luvox at the time). I took it for 2 days, and was feeling almost too good. I had +++ energy... wasnt hungry at all, and had no desire to sleep. On the 3rd day, shortly after I got to work, I flipped out. I had a massive anxiety attack, and my colleague had to drive me home. I called my Dr, and we discontinued the drug immediately.
Oh yes.. also... I now have adult onset asthma, which came about during my first pregnancy, 4 years after I quit smoking. I had lung function tests, and there was significant damage done as a result of my smoking during the early years. So... no one should be surprised to find that it is too late to ward off health complications that result from years of smoking, especially if you smoked as a youngster. BUT....think of how nice your hair and clothing will smell! Think of all the money you will save! Good luck!!!




pinkwind -> RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. (3/23/2009 2:29:06 PM)

We are both about to kick our habits of 30-40 years standing, and are using the smoking cessation resources at our GP surgery.

In the interim i took a look at my own consumption and decided to take a few steps to help myself lower intake. First of all i ditched tailor made cigarettes for rolling my own, bought a rolling machine and slim tips. i use a tip and a half for every one i roll, lessening the amount of tobacco in each. Since then i have been lowering the amount i roll by one a week or so.

i know it sounds slow, but i am succeeding so far. Depending on what help is available and suitable for each of us we should be well on the way quite soon.

Some people just grab the nettle and stop, don't change a thing and succeed, others stop after planning a new hobby to take their minds off not smoking, whilst others reduce their intake over time and have a planned end date in mine. Some have their eye on a prize, a personal reward for achieving a length of time not smoking, while others work out how much they will save and promise themselves a holiday.

No matter what, you have to be realistic, and that sometimes means being hard on yourself for being less than enthusiastic, or self assured of your own success. i am one who seemingly has to be convinced that something is right before making a move, and i know that's a bit of a cop out, which i suppose is why i am taking the steps i am, fence sitting!

Whatever route you take, and however many times it takes to achieve, i wish you every success.







domcypher -> RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. (3/26/2009 9:46:34 PM)

I started yesterday. I have officially decided I am quitting. I'm not going to try cold turkey this time though, didn't work last time. Just by conciously being aware of how much I smoke has made me cut back by about half of what I normally smoke. I've limited myself to one smoke per hour, which is doable so far. the idea is that every week or two, i'm going to increase the time between smokes by about a half hour. weaning myself off.




cantilena -> RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. (3/27/2009 6:13:41 AM)

I'm not a person who gave up smoking only to hop on the Anti-Smoking-Crusader bandwagon. I think like most things in life, this is one of those things that needs to be up to the individual. I smoked for (counting back, now, on my fingers.... oy... toes....) well, over 20 years.  So I do understand.

My point is this.  It's an addiction.  Much like any other addiction in the way it manifests itself into life and the psyche.  We can really be capable of serious self delusion when it comes to addictions, and that's not our fault.  It's just the way it is.

Within that framework... have you ever heard of a respected drug-rehab therapy that reduced heroin to just a little bit less every day?  If you have, are there great numbers of ex-drug addicts who have stayed clean for many years following that therapy?  Likewise, have you ever heard of an alcoholic with many years of sobriety who achieved it initially by reducing their drinking to just an ounce or two less every day to wean themselves off?

I'm not poking at efforts - I think it's great to try!  I'm just saying I hope the reducing method works for those trying it in the long run.  I know for myself - it wouldn't have.

For me, I guess, the only thing that really worked was simply to quit.  Not try to quit or think about quitting.  Just putting out the last one and being a nonsmoker from then on.  It's not easy, like I said earlier.  But it's not that hard, either.

Rooting for everyone. :)




Guilty1974 -> RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. (3/28/2009 2:43:51 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cantilena

I'm not poking at efforts - I think it's great to try!  I'm just saying I hope the reducing method works for those trying it in the long run.  I know for myself - it wouldn't have.


Actually, I did basically the same thing as domcypher plans to. And then I did it all over with lights. And then I had the courage to really quit. And I'm clean for about 7 years now. So for me it worked, but it is indeed a method with a high chance of failure. Besides, you're torturing yourself much much longer than by just quiting CT. On the other hand, perhaps that's what made me hate my addiction even more.




DemonKia -> RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. (3/28/2009 9:50:47 PM)

There's a lot of great information in this thread . . . . . Individual data points vary widely, so the more ingredients in the quitting stew, the better . . . . . . Here's my experience:

I started at age 11 (1976), & was a chain-smoking 3-pack-a-day Camel girl by age 16 (1981) . . . . . . I quit in the fall of 1994 (age 29) . . . . . . Bonafides out of the way, let me say something about the how . . . . . .

The number one tool I use for just about every change I make in myself is being kind to myself, loving, forgiving, gentle . . . . . . Harshness may work for some, but I thrive on care & consideration . . . . . . . . & tobacco use is essentially self-destructive, even marginally suicidal; recognizing that reality was crucial to learning how to love myself around my tobacco use . ... . As long as I thought of tobacco as some kind of 'reward' it was tough to lose it, but when I made myself see / feel / experience it as the harm it was in my body, moving away from it was much easier . .... . . Part of being kind & gentle with myself is aiming for gradual changes, baby steps . . .. . . I find it's much easier to shift myself slowly, in tiny increments . . . ...

The second most important tool I use to change any habit is heightening my awareness . . . . . In the case of tobacco, I worked on noticing (rather than subconsciously suppressing) all the adverse effects that each cigarette had on me . .. . . . This is a process, for me a gradual one, but by the end the cigarettes tasted like blood, literally, & I could feel the pain & discomfort in my lungs of every puff . . . . . I made myself pay more & more attention to how the smoking made me feel, how it interfered with me doing things I wanted to do, how it affected all the people around me (from loved ones to total strangers), kept careful track of the things I could not financially afford because of my tobacco habit, how nasty it made me & my stuff smell, the wrinkles in my face, the time it took away from other things I wanted to do, how disruptive the craving was, & on & on . . . . . .

Other things that were really useful:

Family members surreptitiously trained my kids (3 young ones during that period) to say, 'We love you, Mommy, & we don't want you to die. Please quit smoking.' That was terribly effective, & the more I heard it, the more so . . . . . . I resented all of them for it at the time, but I'm eternally grateful now . . . . . . .

I worked a lot on changing my mental state from 'smoker' to 'non-smoker', figuring out what those differences meant for me . . . . . . . I've also, whenever changing habits, had to do a lot of work around issues of feeling 'rewarded' & 'punished', 'deprived' & 'indulged' that come up around whichever particular habit . . . . . .

I quit a lot, sometimes for hours, sometimes for days, weeks, months . . . . . I even quit for most of a year, then started again . .. . . . I've read that the more times a smoker quits, the more likely they are to quit for good -- worked in my case . . . . . & I quit all kinds of different ways, cold turkey, tapering, & everything in between; I don't even really remember exactly how I quit at the end, but it was probably a combo of tapering & then one day being done . . .. . . .

Trading habits works for me, especially when they're contradictory habits . . .. . Quitting tobacco was a big part of turning me into the exercise junky I am today . . .. . . I've also used knitting / crocheting / hand-sewing / embroidery type activities over the years to help keep my hands occupied; also lots of other creative / artsy / craftsy activities have helped divert me over the years . . . . . I've also acquired a video-game habit, but that has more to do with my eating disorder stuff . . . . . lol

I cannot emphasize the exercise component enough -- it's by far most responsible for _keeping_ me a non-smoker these last 14 years . . . .. . I take great pleasure in my (chubby but fit) body, anything that starts to impair my fitness trend impairs my general day-to-day joy . . . . . . My commitment to exercise, mild, low-key, regular, endorphin-pushing physical activity of all kinds, has driven all my other self-improvement projects since I started that path, circa 1991 . . . . . . . I have exercise lulls & gains, but the commitment to moving my body more has generally improved my life far beyond its role in quitting smoking, even tho' quitting tobacco was one of the initial reasons I committed to regular exercise . . .. . .

At various times I also used what 'tobacco quitting tools' were available: nicotine gum, regular gum, toothpicks, eating more . . .. (no patches or Wellbutrin back then, but I would have tried them if I coulda) . . . . . But these were only tools to use in the campaign that started in my head . . . .. . . As long as my brain / mind has the habit, my body / biochemistry / physiology simply follows along . . . . . . & the knowledge that I do have some rational control over the whole system forms a basis to my belief structure, & probably helped as well . . . . .

I am a long-term cannabis user . . . . . Sometimes, in the first few years after I quit the tobacco I would get the urge to smoke & would smoke a little cannabis . . .. . (I've since quit _smoking_ cannabis, my lungs cannot take any smoke anymore . . . . . . Now I eat the cannabis . . . . lol)

I kept in mind that if cigarettes disappeared tomorrow, I'd quit no matter what I wanted & that I would survive . . . . . .

& finally, I mostly do things cuz I wanna, for the pleasure, & tobacco was interfering with far more pleasure than it delivered, once I noticed . . . . . . .

Best,
The Demon, Kia




andreaC -> RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. (9/14/2009 11:58:55 AM)

I was told that because of my diabetes and breast cancer in the family, i couldnt take the patch (zyban, etc.) I did cold turkey, but i do get the urge from time to time. 

For my health and for the love of my Master, i persist in my struggle of not smoking.




MHAP -> RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. (9/20/2009 12:05:54 AM)

quote:

need some advice!

I've been smoking since I was fourteen. and I really need advice on kicking the habit.

I've used the patches/ nicotine gum.. and All they do is make my blood pressure go through the roof. Yeah, I know it is nasty, and can cause cancer and can lead to death.

So, I'm trying to kick the habit for my own wellbeing, and My Master really wants me to quit.

Right now, I smoke about a pack a day.

Any advice?


First let me say...any attempt to Quit is a good thing....

its very hard and Yes you will prob. fail the first time...(don't let it get you down).

If you really want to quit you need "A Plan" set a date to start... if you want to use gum..pills..food..whatever will work for you use it. Get "Support" find a group you can talk too. and reward yourself with a treat everyday you make it.. the first 4 days are the worste..but it will never be over.... I quit 5 years ago ..after smoking 22 years I still smoke in my dreams.....

Good Luck.




xoxkittenxox -> RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. (9/21/2009 7:24:21 AM)

What I don't understand is.... Smoking is deadly, sure. Can't the formula be changed? I mean, when a food had too much trans fat, they prepared it a different way. Tobacco in its purest form isn't as deadly. Its those stupid ass chemicals and shit they add to the cigarette, to keep it from going stale, or to put it out if its not being smoked to stop burning houses down or some shit. Like, seriously? If it causes THAT many deaths, either make it illegal, change the formula, or shut the hell up.

I smoke for medicinal purposes. I'd rather have lung cancer in the future than daily migraines now. Smoking gives me about a half hour of relief and gives me the chance to swallow a few pills of Aspirin or something else, so I don't puke them right up.

Sure, it may be bad. But which is worse? Not eating for days on end because I can't stand the smell of food, the texture of food, the taste of food without wanting to puke, or lung cancer in 30-40 years? Hmm... Living for one month and dying of starvation or lung cancer...

Point: Quit pumping chemicals into the cigarettes and maybe people won't die as often.




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