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lovingpet -> Double Space (3/13/2009 3:37:54 PM)
I have been waiting to write this thread until I felt like I was having a day where my words were coming together in some kind of reasonable fashion to try to explain to myself this phenomenon. I will be honest that I have been less than convinced that this could actually occur.... ever. I was wrong. Let's attempt an operational definition, although I tend to think it is only new to me and so I am really just placing this here for myself. Double space (if it has another name, please introduce me to it so I can stop sounding stupid[8D]) is the attainment of both submissive and dominant space during the same period of time and it can be during the same scene, though this was not the case with me. You guessed it. I watched scenes a couple of weeks ago at a club and was taken by surprise at how involved I became in them. I don't think I was really aware of it until we were on our way home and I kind of "snapped out of it" so to speak. To my left was a scene that had me identifying deeply with the submissive and the dominant seemed to manage to make me shrink despite him being completely oblivious to my presence. To my right was a scene that I was decidedly rewriting as I saw what I would be doing to the poor little thing tied up. Across the room, and one I couldn't seem to break away from for long, I was entranced by both and seemed very inside the whole thing. I about felt like I was losing my mind just a little bit. Ragingly dominant one moment and softly submissive the next and, on occasion, unable to separate the two as they coexisted so seemlessly together. Okay, so I was losing it, in the scenes and the energies of them, the couples, and the individuals. It was amazing, but I was kind of aware and unaware of it at the same time. I certainly didn't know I could drop post scene from just watching. That was a bit of a shocker. I don't even know what my question is except to ask if or what experiences others have had with "double space". Thanks for bearing with me. lovingpet

chamberqueen -> RE: Double Space (3/14/2009 6:20:55 AM)
Sounds more like highly empathetic voyeurism to me. I have gotten so caught up in even vanilla scenes that I start experiencing whatever I imagine one of the parties is going through - sometimes both. That can even happen to me in a very well acted movie or TV show. You could put yourself in their shoes so well that you were experiencing their same range of emotions, and sometimes a "drop" can come after that. It can be emotionally exhausting.

lovingpet -> RE: Double Space (3/16/2009 1:37:34 PM)
Thank you so much chamberqueen. You are the sole person making me feel like I am not totally nuts! I know there are plans in the works for me to eventually dominate my submissive (when the lovely creature comes along) and to be in submission to my dominant partner within in the same scene. There is no rush to leap headlong into this as we may find it is not something I or one of the other parties is really capable of. I would imagine this will be an even stronger double trip. That is why I was curious if others have found this to be possible and have had much experience with it. After about a week, I would say that is a catagorical no by the responses. LOL I am still very open to hearing anyone's experience with what I am calling double space. Thanks for your input in advance. lovingpet

allthatjaz -> RE: Double Space (3/16/2009 3:52:17 PM)
Hi lovingpet I can relate very much to your experience of voyeurism. When I watched 9 & a half weeks I related very much Mickey Rourke as a dominant and Kim Basinger as a submissive. This film charged me emotionally but left me feeling emotionally confused! I recently walked into a party as Stephens submissive but within an hour of getting there I was dominating a submissive female and Im doing that for me and not him. Any interruption by him at that stage could of proved fatal! (for him). Sometimes I do wonder about myself but the only thing I can think is that its a huge range of sexual emotions going on and why should sexual emotions have rules?

lovingpet -> RE: Double Space (3/16/2009 5:28:17 PM)
I agree. I was just kind of taken aback by somehow coexisting in both spaces simultaneously. It was wild and have no idea what it may say about our plans. I can't imagine being fully immersed in both at the same time as a participant. That has to really be something! lovingpet

allthatjaz -> RE: Double Space (3/17/2009 2:19:32 AM)
Have you talked to your partner about this?

MissJanice2 -> RE: Double Space (3/19/2009 7:02:16 AM)
*I can experience both sub and Domme space. I don't think I could do it at the same time. People are different. I have seen people switch at the drop of a dime.* *Try not to categorize everything and just enjoy the experience of what you are doing, and it will be much easier for you.* *Best Wishes,* MJ

lovingpet -> RE: Double Space (3/20/2009 6:04:58 PM)
We have discussed things some as it all unravels for me in my mind. He is reassuring and helping me find my way through all the sorted details of being my switchie self LOL! Thank you MissJanice! I know it will be something that will develop over time and I will be how I am and there is really not a whole lot of changing it. I am looking forward to exploring more soon! lovingpet

NerdyJoss -> RE: Double Space (6/2/2009 2:32:06 PM)
What thoughtful posts! I appreciate being exposed to other people who observe themselves in "double space" and are interested in reflecting about it. When I'm in public, and there are multiple scenes going on, I tend to stay firmly entrenched in only one mode, usually dictated by my companion or the context of my presence there. But I have experienced that kind of flipping mindset before. It's like multitasking with several subs at once when a Mistress is watching me: I must maintain my firm hand and attention to those I am directing/supervising, but at the same time be on call for softer, yielding, submissive response to my Mistress, even if she is just looking at me and not talking. Good times!

DavanKael -> RE: Double Space (6/2/2009 4:07:08 PM)
Hi, lovingpet---- I second the idea that it is a form of empathy and would go further as to say that it's more depthful than a 'standard' emptahy and is rather visceral in its overlayment of impression on you; literally feeling the emotions of others. As a kid, I did that automatically and didn't have any control over it. It took me a long time to notice that not everyone felt things that way. I shut it down for awhile and it's back but not perfectly. When it's as pure as something you described there, it's almost like a drug; the Universe takes on a different 'shine' and I feel sometimes more alive. The potential down-side is that you can feel battered by others' emotions if you are unable to modulate and could have someone kind of 'feeding off of' you if you're not careful. If what I've described is what you're experiencing, I say: awesome; I find it to be one of the greatest intimacies in the world and I love when the walls melt away like that with ones I hold dear (Which is different and more intense than with strangers or acquaintances as you described). Best wishes, Davan

LadyGmx -> RE: Double Space (6/26/2009 7:38:36 PM)
I do think that in a given scene I am able to experience both states when there is some subby to me and some Dommyng me (sorry for the spelling). Why not? That could be delightful as well as confusing... as being bisexual as I am (thanks God/Godess)! Lady G

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