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daredevil865 -> Canadian election (1/23/2006 10:57:22 PM)

ok...nothing to do with D/s but a mixed night in Canada...happy to see the results but sad to see it is not a majority




UtopianRanger -> RE: Canadian election (1/23/2006 11:16:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: daredevil865

ok...nothing to do with D/s but a mixed night in Canada...happy to see the results but sad to see it is not a majority


I watched and paid attention with great interest --- And to be honest.... was shocked! The Neocons must be rubbing off on our good friends from the frozen hirtherland....

I'm just waiting to hear that Cheney and Rumsfeld made a deal with the conservatives up there so we can start taking all the Al Qaeda detainees up there to be tortured LOL!


- The Ranger




Arpig -> RE: Canadian election (1/24/2006 12:42:44 AM)

I am afraid i hold the opposite view.....not happy to see the results, but glad its not a majority




TypeWriter -> RE: Canadian election (1/24/2006 4:18:34 AM)

I am Canadian and living in the US so have some perspective here.

A conservative minority government in Canada has the shelf life of mayonais ein the Saharah. =)

If the Liberal Party cleans house (looks like they are already) they will win the next election.

It is not some great neocon victory in Canada. Th eLiberal government was very corrupt and hae had their hands slapped for it. If their was a beleif in conservative politics there would have been a majority.

Type




pantera -> RE: Canadian election (1/24/2006 5:11:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: TypeWriter


Th eLiberal government was very corrupt
Type



surprise, surprise!!!

I think it all comes down to what's best for the economy...and socialist traits are bad for it-






TypeWriter -> RE: Canadian election (1/24/2006 5:30:20 AM)

Liberal being, big"L", as in the Liberal Party. Not liberal as in a form of government.

The entire country is very far left. Even the conservative party would not touch abortion, healthcare and the death penalty.

They are not ruled by religious fascist as I beleive the conservatives are here in the US.

Also since Canada is the only G8 nation in the last decade to run in the black the "socialist" policies can't be doing too badly.

Type




Mercnbeth -> RE: Canadian election (1/24/2006 7:12:52 AM)

Does this mean all the Hollywood people who moved out of the US after Bush was elected will be coming back here? DAMN! - There go the property values!




SirKenin -> RE: Canadian election (1/24/2006 8:22:18 AM)

Well, the people have spoken once again I guess, to use that used up, tacky cliche that the media has beat into the ground. Nobody likes the hack and slash Conservative policies of how to demolish an economy and social infrastructure in four years, but the Liberals needed to be sent a message at the same time. So, we have a minority that can not really do anything, and none of the opposition is going to buy into their hack and slash, rob from the poor to give to the rich crapola policies, so no real damage can be done. The first major issue to hit the spotlight and the Conservatives will be gone...We will be back to the polls.




subtlesubie -> RE: Canadian election (1/24/2006 6:53:05 PM)

Let's be clear on one thing - the Canadian Conservative party is much more in line with the Democrats than the GOP. Talk of a NeoCon revolution here is nonsense. And I am at ground zero - Calgary. There is very little popular support for a program of Republican style social reforms. There are a few renegade Conservative MPs who have talked out the top of their hats, but they don't have the support of the people. And there may be an upside. BC adopted an Alberta style approach to government and their economy, and after a perod of adjustment, their economy is red hot. Imagine what an Alberta style Federal government could do? Maybe we will actually see jobs created in the Atlantic provinces.




FangsNfeet -> RE: Canadian election (1/24/2006 11:00:09 PM)

Why would the majority care when they don't have the right to tell jokes or have humor about the elections?

Comedy done on the Radio, TV, Cartoon Comics, Stand Up Comedy, and such catch more attention by the public than serious issues made on some brodcast.

If the Canandian Government gave people a little more freedom in speech when it comes to there own politics, they would most likely be a little more politicaly involved. Otherwise, they're just going to keep moving to the USA.




Arpig -> RE: Canadian election (1/24/2006 11:15:13 PM)

fangs, I am afraid you don't know jack about Canada if you really believe that, political satire is a canadian industry...This hour has 22 minutes, the Air Frace, and Rick mercer reports, to name a few classics off the top of my head. And where you get the idea we have limited freedom of speech regarding politics from is beyond me.
The reason we keep moving to the US is really very simple....your money is real.




Misstoyou -> RE: Canadian election (1/24/2006 11:34:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: daredevil865

ok...nothing to do with D/s but a mixed night in Canada...happy to see the results but sad to see it is not a majority


Yahoo! Canada News today:

"Pacific Coast bucks election trend

VANCOUVER, British Columbia (Reuters) - Residents in British Columbia proved themselves contrarians in Monday's election, shifting to the political left while much of the country drifted to the right...

"You've got to love B.C. When the bandwagon rolls across the country, we're the ones at the back leaping off," wrote Tom Barrett, a columnist for thetyee.ca, a respected on-line publication that covers British Columbia politics."


As someone who happily lives on the "Left Coast" of the U.S., it must be the water! [:D]




subtlesubie -> RE: Canadian election (1/25/2006 12:14:23 AM)

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Why would the majority care when they don't have the right to tell jokes or have humor about the elections?

Comedy done on the Radio, TV, Cartoon Comics, Stand Up Comedy, and such catch more attention by the public than serious issues made on some brodcast.

If the Canandian Government gave people a little more freedom in speech when it comes to there own politics, they would most likely be a little more politicaly involved. Otherwise, they're just going to keep moving to the USA.


Fangs, I have read your posts for a long time, under many screen names, and I am still waiting for you to say something smart.




UtopianRanger -> RE: Canadian election (1/25/2006 12:37:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pantera


quote:

ORIGINAL: TypeWriter


Th eLiberal government was very corrupt
Type



surprise, surprise!!!

I think it all comes down to what's best for the economy...and socialist traits are bad for it-





Pantera....

How in the world did I know that condemnation in the context of liberals would surely bring you of the woodwork - LMAO!


- The Ranger




UtopianRanger -> RE: Canadian election (1/25/2006 12:48:06 AM)

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If the Canandian Government gave people a little more freedom in speech when it comes to there own politics, they would most likely be a little more politically involved. Otherwise, they're just going to keep moving to the USA.


You’re absolutely on the money.

This is one thing that pops right out of my mind that I vehemently dislike about Canada.

{Hypothetical}If you were a radio talk show host in Canada and had program that presented an alternative view point to the holocaust, and actually brought information forward that said what happened to the Jews was nothing more than a Zionist maneuver -- You could be prosecuted and put in jail for hate speech!!! And most Americans have no idea that things work like that in Canada or the UK.

Think about it.... what would you think if you could be prosecuted and put in jail for disagreeing/and putting forth an alternative view point to the governments position regards the history of the whole Grassy knoll, Lee Harvey Oswald, Jackie Ruby thing?


- The Ranger




SirKenin -> RE: Canadian election (1/25/2006 5:12:09 AM)

Socialist traits are bad for the economy? Maybe in theory, but in practice (but do not slam Me if I am wrong) I believe that when the Conservatives held the reigns in Ontario they completely trashed the economy while spoon feeding big business. Brian Bullroney completely devastated the economy as well. Their hack and slash tactics were supposed to pump money into the economy while giving a break to their little buddies in big business, while in fact the big boys just pocketed the profits. One of My clients was telling Me all the reasons why I should vote Conservative. He listed off all the pressures the Liberals put on business and that as a business I should be voting against that.

The Liberals might be a lot of things, but they are much closer to the center than the Conservatives.. The Conservatives have actually shifted to the right. For an example of economy, the Canadian dollar is the strongest it has been in ages, and it has become that way under the Liberal regime. Say what you want about them, but despite the fact that they were corrupt they did a lot of good for this country (although the one thing I do not approve of is homosexual marriage, but oh well).




Arpig -> RE: Canadian election (1/25/2006 11:23:47 AM)

Ah kenin, the homosexual marriage issue is in fact just the gateway. If the Gvt can dictate to them how they can or cannot conduct their lives, then they can also dictate to you. And in a purely legal sense, if you spank your sub...that's assault.




SirKenin -> RE: Canadian election (1/25/2006 1:47:03 PM)

Yeah, I know all too well about spankings... [>:] The thing is, the Liberals did not want to dictate whether or not the homosexuals could marry. They kept passing the buck. They said "Yeah, we are going to do something about it" and "Yeah, we will look into it" and they never did. Just a bunch of charades. I think you can look to the Conservatives to attempt to put a stop to that Act.




UtopianRanger -> RE: Canadian election (1/25/2006 4:23:04 PM)

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For an example of economy, the Canadian dollar is the strongest it has been in ages, and it has become that way under the Liberal regime.


My friend....

The rise in the Canadian dollar has little to do your liberal government.

Now... others say no WMD's, Iraq, lies, and torture are things we should me mad about.... I think they should be more angry with both a continued trade imbalance {With your country - that decreases the value of our dollar} and the systematic fall of the American dollar and how it has been devalued by over thirty-five percent since Bush has been in office.

The liberals are crying about tax breaks.... those are false tax breaks. When the dollar declines in value over thirty-five percent in one administrations tenure, that equates to a monumental loss in purchasing power by consumers in this country. And that my friend, is nothing more than a hidden-tax on US citizens that they haven't figured out yet -- Because they're to busy watching football and immersed in who Trump is going to fire next.

This is just my opinion and others will have theirs, but the reason the Canadian dollar has increased in value against the US, is simply because of the continued trade imbalance and the drop of tariffs in export markets as they relate to raw materials/commodities such as lumber, steel, ore, minerals, etc.

It's bad for the US consumer {again their buying power is diminished} but good for corporations {and Canadian citizens} in the US that produce goods for export --- Because with the dollar falling against other currencies, it makes goods produced in the United States more of a marketable commodity.

The other factor is that many of the Petroleum producing nations have been divesting in US dollars and switching to the Euro {as a monetary standard}, which essentially puts less of a dependence on the dollar as a world monetary standard, hence devaluing it.

We are living off the fruits of cheap labor, but everytime they become a little richer, we become a little poorer. Like I said before... it's very slow process of sitting in the pot until the water gets really hot.... then your cooked and you can't jump out! ; }




JMHO


- The Ranger




FangsNfeet -> RE: Canadian election (1/25/2006 7:19:56 PM)

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fangs, I am afraid you don't know jack about Canada if you really believe that,


Frankly I just don't give a damn. What I heard may not be true. I was driving to work on Monday morning when I heard on the radio "The Canda Government issued a ban on programs to make fun of the election."

I've also heard that Preachers recieve fines in Canada for speaking out against homosexuality. Is that true or false?

Other than that, it's also to my understanding that Musilum Women are not allowed to wear there scarf over there head. This is because the scarf is some how translated as a way to oppress women. Since the scarf oppresses women, then it's not allowed to be worn regardless of how cold it might be. So they aren't allowed to fully practice there religion. Is this true or false about Canada?

Any how that's what I heard. If it's all wrong then feel free to correct me. I like learning a few things about other countries now and then.




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