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girlygurl -> RE: What defines a gift? (3/19/2009 2:15:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LaTigresse Then I will give them the gift of a smack upside the head. It's a relationship, not a birthday party. makes note not to use word "gift" when corresponding with LaT Although a swat from her would be a gift.... wouldn't it? [:)]

JovialSadist -> RE: What defines a gift? (3/19/2009 4:23:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP quote: ORIGINAL: JovialSadist DesFIP wrote "But basically, if you don't like any use of this phrase, then a sub who does like this is clearly much more romantic than you are and therefore has shown you early on that you are not compatible. And finding that out early, not later, is always a good thing". How short sighted... You feel you know me simply by this post??? Romantic? I appreciate every vile thing my slave allows me to do to her. I even send her flowers, leave little notes in places she is supposed to clean telling her I appreciate her, and reward her in ways that hold absolutely no meaning for me; simply because I am a romantic. But when you say you give something to someone, that you wouldn't even be with if they didn't meet your needs, it is not a gift. It is fulfilling your need to serve someone who fills your requirement list... I have a problem with people who need to think that natural expressions of their desires are vile. I find that makes them uncomfortable with themselves that they need to set up such a juvenile dichotomy. Regardless, if she thinks of herself as a valuable gift, and you don't - then you do not have a meeting of the minds and it would behoove you to reconsider compatibility. Your mud slinging is not appreciated; no matter how civil you seem to be in your presentation. So do me a favor and stay out of my thread.

IronBear -> RE: What defines a gift? (3/19/2009 4:49:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JovialSadist quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP quote: ORIGINAL: JovialSadist DesFIP wrote "But basically, if you don't like any use of this phrase, then a sub who does like this is clearly much more romantic than you are and therefore has shown you early on that you are not compatible. And finding that out early, not later, is always a good thing". How short sighted... You feel you know me simply by this post??? Romantic? I appreciate every vile thing my slave allows me to do to her. I even send her flowers, leave little notes in places she is supposed to clean telling her I appreciate her, and reward her in ways that hold absolutely no meaning for me; simply because I am a romantic. But when you say you give something to someone, that you wouldn't even be with if they didn't meet your needs, it is not a gift. It is fulfilling your need to serve someone who fills your requirement list... I have a problem with people who need to think that natural expressions of their desires are vile. I find that makes them uncomfortable with themselves that they need to set up such a juvenile dichotomy. Regardless, if she thinks of herself as a valuable gift, and you don't - then you do not have a meeting of the minds and it would behoove you to reconsider compatibility. Your mud slinging is not appreciated; no matter how civil you seem to be in your presentation. So do me a favor and stay out of my thread. JovialSadist….. Whoa! Hold your horses!!!! Stone the bloody crows. There is no way I can see DesFIP slinging mud there, bloody hell can't you tell between a honest difference of opinion and a flame war?. Crikey, I’ve seen a whole lot worse and done a whole lot worse even with superb presentations when reaming a new arsehole for some person who deserved it. All you have done is to make yourself a target and draw attention to yourself. As for telling someone to keep out of your threads.. Got news for you boyo, once you post even if you are the original poster (OP), the thread is then public property and damme sirah! DesFIP has been here for a long, long time and is a much valued and respected member of the forum .. Perhaps, if you are so fragile, it is you who may need to rethink about posting here again…..

dreamerdreaming -> RE: What defines a gift? (3/19/2009 5:01:32 PM)
I'll give you my stock answer: My slave's submission is not a gift. HE is the gift. To obey me, and submit willingly to me- those are things he does for me.

JovialSadist -> RE: What defines a gift? (3/19/2009 5:21:01 PM)
I think it is a problem when someone assumes who I am without ever getting to know me. To make a judgment on my personality, then to call my views juvenile because they don’t like my choice of words, is nothing short of personal bias; born out of disagreement. If they want to say that they feel the term is a romantic notion, by all means do so. If they want to say they disagree with my wording; that is acceptable. However; to say someone is not romantic and juvenile is mud slinging. Whither it is me they are talking about or anybody else, these posts should remain generic in description when it comes to reference about the people posting.

wisdomofgiving -> RE: What defines a gift? (3/19/2009 5:30:41 PM)
If i choose to give anything to a person, or gift a person it comes without expectations. Submissiveness as a gift sounds nice. I submit to a few things in life, without expectations, but persoanly I do not consider it a gift. I dont see myself as a gift to another. If in a relationship i give myself, not a gift. I do not give myself to many people, but my mind cannot say here I gifting me to you. Just not my thing. wisdomofgiving

Aneirin -> RE: What defines a gift? (3/19/2009 9:20:44 PM)
quote: JovialSadist….. Whoa! Hold your horses!!!! Stone the bloody crows. There is no way I can see DesFIP slinging mud there, bloody hell can't you tell between a honest difference of opinion and a flame war?. Crikey, I’ve seen a whole lot worse and done a whole lot worse even with superb presentations when reaming a new arsehole for some person who deserved it. All you have done is to make yourself a target and draw attention to yourself. As for telling someone to keep out of your threads.. Got news for you boyo, once you post even if you are the original poster (OP), the thread is then public property and damme sirah! DesFIP has been here for a long, long time and is a much valued and respected member of the forum .. Perhaps, if you are so fragile, it is you who may need to rethink about posting here again….. < Message edited by IronBear -- 3/20/2009 12:55:33 AM > With an understanding of Engineering terms the thought of such an act brings tears to the eyes.

JovialSadist -> RE: What defines a gift? (3/19/2009 11:06:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: IronBear quote: ORIGINAL: JovialSadist quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP quote: ORIGINAL: JovialSadist DesFIP wrote "But basically, if you don't like any use of this phrase, then a sub who does like this is clearly much more romantic than you are and therefore has shown you early on that you are not compatible. And finding that out early, not later, is always a good thing". How short sighted... You feel you know me simply by this post??? Romantic? I appreciate every vile thing my slave allows me to do to her. I even send her flowers, leave little notes in places she is supposed to clean telling her I appreciate her, and reward her in ways that hold absolutely no meaning for me; simply because I am a romantic. But when you say you give something to someone, that you wouldn't even be with if they didn't meet your needs, it is not a gift. It is fulfilling your need to serve someone who fills your requirement list... I have a problem with people who need to think that natural expressions of their desires are vile. I find that makes them uncomfortable with themselves that they need to set up such a juvenile dichotomy. Regardless, if she thinks of herself as a valuable gift, and you don't - then you do not have a meeting of the minds and it would behoove you to reconsider compatibility. Your mud slinging is not appreciated; no matter how civil you seem to be in your presentation. So do me a favor and stay out of my thread. JovialSadist….. Whoa! Hold your horses!!!! Stone the bloody crows. There is no way I can see DesFIP slinging mud there, bloody hell can't you tell between a honest difference of opinion and a flame war?. Crikey, I’ve seen a whole lot worse and done a whole lot worse even with superb presentations when reaming a new arsehole for some person who deserved it. All you have done is to make yourself a target and draw attention to yourself. As for telling someone to keep out of your threads.. Got news for you boyo, once you post even if you are the original poster (OP), the thread is then public property and damme sirah! DesFIP has been here for a long, long time and is a much valued and respected member of the forum .. Perhaps, if you are so fragile, it is you who may need to rethink about posting here again….. I belonged to CM for many, many years under a different name. During that time I have seen this site become more and more a small clique of self praising people and scam artist. I’ve never written a book, like my kiwi friend, and pushed it in the Message Boards; nor have I ever allowed someone to draw me into a flame war before. However; I’ve had it with the people here… Just because someone has been a long time contributor to the boards, it does not give them the right to assume they know a person well enough to pass judgment on them after two simple posts. And calling a person juvenal because they don’t agree with the wording of a post is nothing short of unbridled arrogance… So, my kiwi friend, you go ahead and ream all the arseholes you want. And if I am expected to respect someone who throws assumptions around simply because they’ve been allowed to do so for a long time (and is respected because of it); you may keep this site and what it has become!

IronBear -> RE: What defines a gift? (3/20/2009 12:02:24 AM)
Get your bloody facts right mate I'm proudly an Aussie not a Kiwi.. Mayhap you best change your glasses when next you read my profile. Do you even know what a Kiwi is? Kiwis are New Zealanders, our mates but not Aussies... Perhaps a trip to the vets would be in rder to have yourself chected for Foot in Mouth Disease.. ~ Tosses you a six pack of iced Fosters to help with the pain and grins ~

MistressRouge -> RE: What defines a gift? (3/20/2009 1:14:39 AM)
I believe in people are gifted, as in adept at tuning into another human being, Dominant o sub. However, I do not see submission as a gift.

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