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persephone42 -> New Mistress looking for advice (3/17/2009 7:48:12 PM)

Hello everyone. I'm a fairly new to the lifestyle, and I have a couple of questions regarding how to properly discipline my sub in certain situations (he has been involved in the lifestyle for longer than I have). I'm hoping to find some helpful people with good advice.

First question: I'm taking a friend to strip club for his birthday. My sub is also coming. How should I expect him to act in this situation? I don't care if he looks at other women, but I know he should behave himself.




RumpusParable -> RE: New Mistress looking for advice (3/17/2009 8:12:26 PM)

He should behave as you'd like him to, nothing more and nothing less.  -Assuming, by the tone of your post, that that's the sort of relatinship you have.




littlesarbonn -> RE: New Mistress looking for advice (3/17/2009 8:15:06 PM)

To be honest, I think the best thing you can do is make it very clear what you expect of him and how. I've been in a number of situations where I've been in a relationships with a relatively new dominant who I didn't realize was kind of apprehensive about instilling her way with me because of how much previous experience I've had. That never ends well. What does work is when we go into it knowing what she expects from me, and it's my job to make sure that I produce exactly as she desires. It ends that whole "well, I don't want to look like I don't know what I'm doing" kind of atmosphere. That may not be the case with you at all, but as someone who has been through a bit of that, I thought I'd just put in my two cents and mention it. One thing that always helped me to find and keep my place was an occasional reminder of "I don't care what other mistresses did in the past, THIS is how you will act in my presence." That sort of exchange was surprisingly rare but very helpful when it happened because someone with experience is always going to want to "help" you out, and in the long run, he or she is not going to know that such "help" is not always that helpful.




BohemianGoddess -> RE: New Mistress looking for advice (3/17/2009 8:22:59 PM)

 Have a butt plug up his ass to remind him that he belongs to you. Locked into a chastity device would be wonderfully cruel also since he is sure to get a boner gawking at the strippers, lol. Last but not least, a chain necklace that may represent a collar of some type or even a wrist band that is not an obvious clue to others of the lifestyle we are in. Remind subbie what his place is before you go out and what is expected of him. Personally I would do all of the above and have an electrical zapper of some sort to shock him when he is drooling over the pole dancers, but then again, I am a sadist, lol. Have fun and enjoy your night out!




FelineFae -> RE: New Mistress looking for advice (3/18/2009 2:23:16 AM)

From the dancers' side of the viel- All customers should obey the rules of the club and expect entertainment only.

And don't be too upset if the dancers seem to avoid you, men in the company of female customers set off warning lights in dancer's eyes. We tend to profile two sceanarios; one, they're a couple looking for a three-way, or two, the girl-friend/wife has something to prove. This may not be true all the time, but either case is common.

Okay, now that i've got the serious stuff out of the way... Go to the club by yourself and talk to the dancers or the bartenders. Often the girls have little things they'll do, like pulling a customer on stage or stripping him of his shirt... As long as it's leagle and in accordance with the club's rules, the girls will be happy to work with you. That's how they pay their bills.

Hope this can help- feline




CatdeMedici -> RE: New Mistress looking for advice (3/18/2009 5:25:07 AM)

How do you expect him to act? You're the Domina, you set the rules.




sfdrew -> RE: New Mistress looking for advice (3/18/2009 7:39:33 AM)

littlesarbonn had some good advice. In my experience the biggest problems are caused by one party or the other "assuming" or "inferring" what the other person thinks or wants. If You don't say anything at all then You can't rightfully be angry if he misbehaves, but giving ambiguous or vague rules can be even worse. If he thinks he knows how he is supposed to behave but really doesn't then You get into some real grey areas and some real communication problems. If You didn't say it, don't expect it.

As a lifestyle sub I can say that it is really easy for us to hide our hurt or uncomfortable feelings from You. It may sound counter-intuitive, but in the beginning especially, You must make him feel comfortable about talking to You about his feelings, even if he knows it's going to be displeasing for You. In the military this is called an "open door policy", because the door is always open to come in a talk.

He also has an obligation to tell You about anything he is uncomfortable with or unsure about in advance. If You ask him what he thinks about XYZ in public and he puts up no objections, but then later flaks at the event, then I would say You have every right to be upset about the communication problem but not about the flaking out on You. It's a communication problem at that point and not a behaviour problem. Communication problems are never solved by punishment.

Understanding the difference could be the single most valuable skill for a new player to acquire in the scene. Even though O/our relationship is rock solid, we still have communication snags now and then. You must be extra vigilant in the beginning to make sure negative feelings don't bottle up.




DiurnalVampire -> RE: New Mistress looking for advice (3/18/2009 7:53:02 AM)

Very simply tell him what is acceptable and unacceptable. There are pretty set rules for the club, which you dont have to concern yourself with. He knows to obey them. For yourself, are you ok with looking and not touching? Lap dances? Tipping? Just think about what you do and dont want to let him do, or SEE him do, and tell him that. Otherwise, if he knows you are ok with him looking, the rest might logically fall under the OK heading and cause problems




slavekal -> RE: New Mistress looking for advice (3/18/2009 1:46:58 PM)

Look within.  What do YOU want.  Tell him that.  It does not matter what other people want.  You have to make your desires known.  Clearly.  Then he will know what to do.




beeble -> RE: New Mistress looking for advice (3/18/2009 5:20:28 PM)

quote:

persephone42 wrote: First question: I'm taking a friend to strip club for his birthday. My sub is also coming. How should I expect him to act in this situation?

It's about what you want and what he wants, not about what I think you should want.  It's your relationship, not mine.

beeble.




MsDDom -> RE: New Mistress looking for advice (3/18/2009 8:49:09 PM)

quote:

I don't care if he looks at other women, but I know he should behave himself.


how do u want him to behave? what are the tings u will tell him r off limits or grounds for punishment? how do u want him to act with ur friend? with u?  that is where i would start in setting the tone for the evening...and his behavior.




PrincessCaitlyn -> RE: New Mistress looking for advice (3/18/2009 9:12:14 PM)

I agree with the butt plug...




IndigoMystry -> RE: New Mistress looking for advice (3/22/2009 1:31:22 PM)

While new, you still have to maintain control however you choose to do so.  Also it depends on how YOU choose to treat your sub, kindly or cruelly.  Since you're new, you may need to establish really firm control at the outset so you don't get bottom-topped.  Personally, before going to the club, I would make my intentions and orders clear to the sub.  If you're into a bit of public humiliation, tell him that his response to any question posed by anyone else at the club is limited to: "I am not allowed to."  Want a drink?  Want a lapdance?  "I am not allowed to" Period.  Preferably with a downward cast of the eyes or looking directly at you before answering.  Puts him firmly in his place.




slavekal -> RE: New Mistress looking for advice (3/22/2009 1:37:32 PM)

That would be really hot.




hardbodysub -> RE: New Mistress looking for advice (3/22/2009 6:06:45 PM)

I agree wholeheartedly with what the others have said. Decide what YOU want out of him, and tell him what you expect.

The butt plug, chastity device, collar and zapper are awesome ideas! No way he's going to forget who's in charge then!




persephone42 -> RE: New Mistress looking for advice (3/22/2009 7:27:07 PM)

I really appreciate all of the responses I have gotten. You all have been extremely helpful...and in some cases entertaining, too. :) If I have any more questions, I know where to find good advice.




VanessaChaland -> RE: New Mistress looking for advice (3/23/2009 3:03:36 AM)

 Buy him a lap dance. Seriously, I mean thats what the place is for. Enjoy life. :)


quote:

ORIGINAL: persephone42

Hello everyone. I'm a fairly new to the lifestyle, and I have a couple of questions regarding how to properly discipline my sub in certain situations (he has been involved in the lifestyle for longer than I have). I'm hoping to find some helpful people with good advice.

First question: I'm taking a friend to strip club for his birthday. My sub is also coming. How should I expect him to act in this situation? I don't care if he looks at other women, but I know he should behave himself.




MissJanice2 -> RE: New Mistress looking for advice (3/23/2009 6:35:26 AM)

Have a discussion with your sub before he goes and set limits.  Put your foot down, but in a nice way.   I don't mind my slave looking at other women, but when he does, I seem to get pissed off.  Just a friendly piece of advice for you to ponder about.
 
Best Wishes,
 
MJ
 
quote:

ORIGINAL: persephone42

Hello everyone. I'm a fairly new to the lifestyle, and I have a couple of questions regarding how to properly discipline my sub in certain situations (he has been involved in the lifestyle for longer than I have). I'm hoping to find some helpful people with good advice.

First question: I'm taking a friend to strip club for his birthday. My sub is also coming. How should I expect him to act in this situation? I don't care if he looks at other women, but I know he should behave himself.




beeble -> RE: New Mistress looking for advice (3/24/2009 2:21:32 AM)

quote:

MissJanice2 wrote: I don't mind my slave looking at other women, but when he does, I seem to get pissed off.

So you do mind, then.  Actually, quite a lot.

Did you mean to write something else?

beeble.




hardbodysub -> RE: New Mistress looking for advice (3/24/2009 8:47:57 AM)

quote:

Buy him a lap dance. Seriously, I mean thats what the place is for. Enjoy life. :)


Oh, great idea, especially if you have him in a chastity device! Imagine the look on the dancer's face, and your sub's embarrassment!




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