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Sirandlittle1 -> BDSM play aspects, and ageing the bad side of age play! (1/24/2006 2:24:43 PM)

This is really for those of us, past the first flush of youth shall we say[;)]

For me, holding any position for a great deal of time, becomes increasingly painful in not a good way, and the distraction from the discomfort, brings me out of the scene we are playing out. This i find irritating.

Bondage with rope, tied to some furniture, then play. That's now a thing of the past, the time it takes to tie me up, my joints are going, leaving only a little time for play before the above situation occurs. So we adapt with hooks set into beams and cuff restraint for that 'click, done!' factor.

So im wondering, what do others view as helpful, in keeping the play going, way past the flog by date? As i presume this is a progressive handicap[:o] id like to find ways around my damn bodies protests. Have you found alternatives yourselves that you could share.
Im sure that there are many people on collarme over 40 and beginning to feel the pinch of age in play, or others that overcome some physical disability. Are there remedies like cod liver oil etc. anything really,

another motivating factor is ive gone and landed a Dom who is 10 yrs away from catching up to what im whingeing about sometimes!

little1




BitaTruble -> RE: BDSM play aspects, and ageing the bad side of age play! (1/24/2006 3:04:02 PM)

Have you tried yoga or Tai Chi?

"While most workouts aim to improve muscular and cardiovascular strength, tai chi does more. Specifically, it strengthens and develops the smaller muscles that support the body's larger muscles and help stabilize posture and movement. This improves balance and coordination, which helps prevent the everyday overuse injuries that appear as we age. Preliminary research suggests tai chi lowers blood pressure as effectively as moderate-intensity aerobic exercise and significantly reduces arthritic pain."

http://diets.aol.com/fitnessandexercise/workouts?id=20050622164709990010

Celeste



MistressDREAD -> RE: BDSM play aspects, and ageing the bad side of age play! (1/24/2006 4:30:10 PM)


As far as the joints are concerned
Using a duretic befor play will take
away some of the swelling and ease
off the joint discomforts. Using a
cyan or ginger rub in the affected
jointed areas will take away some
of the disconfort so you can concentrate
on the scene. Blood flow slows as We
age and when in positions where it can
be cut off can become a serious issue
that cannot be ignored and if the pain
becomes a disconfort you cannot overlook
need to get out of the position thats causing
such pain. It only takes a bent leg with a
closed off blood vessel a moment to form
a blood clot and I dont think I have to tell
you what can happen with said blood clot.
There are so many ways to scene and
apply bondage both physically, mentally
and emotionally that there really shouldent
be any trouble in finding the place that fits
the both of You. I have what I will call a
retired slave of service, He is in his late
stage of life and in a wheel chair with
physical ailments and limitations. I to
faced the dilemma in how to apply
bondage in a way that made the slave
feel of service and complete and gave
My Own needs and desires completness
in their application and discovery. What
I found is less is more. now anytime
I want to apply bondage to My slave
who is very VERY limited at this point
but takes plesasure in My application
of such towards Him I take a simple
chinese finger cuff and stick His fingers
in them so that He cannot remove
them on his own. Not being able to
assist in pushing Him self around in
the wheel chair and not being able
to push back his hair when it falls
over his eyes makes in his mind and
soul bounded to My whim complete.
As for your hooking up
with a Dominant younger then yourself
have fun... He will gain the chance to
learn what its gonna be like for Him
in a short while.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: BDSM play aspects, and ageing the bad side of age play! (1/24/2006 4:38:37 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

Have you tried yoga or Tai Chi?

"While most workouts aim to improve muscular and cardiovascular strength, tai chi does more. Specifically, it strengthens and develops the smaller muscles that support the body's larger muscles and help stabilize posture and movement. This improves balance and coordination, which helps prevent the everyday overuse injuries that appear as we age. Preliminary research suggests tai chi lowers blood pressure as effectively as moderate-intensity aerobic exercise and significantly reduces arthritic pain."

http://diets.aol.com/fitnessandexercise/workouts?id=20050622164709990010

Celeste

I'm really liking you.

This was gonna be my answer.

Yoga, swimming, low impact but regular exercise can keep the body extremely well toned, stretched and physically fit into many later years so that you don't have to have any real restrictions.

Obviously each body will be different, if you've had a specific injury or surgery, then physical therapy or specific spot exercises can help you strengthen them, but might always have to be somewhat limited in that particular area.



Petruchio -> RE: BDSM play aspects, and ageing the bad side of age play! (1/24/2006 9:59:03 PM)

quote:

way past the flog by date


At least your wit is still agile.



OscarHargraves -> RE: BDSM play aspects, and ageing the bad side of age play! (1/24/2006 10:13:03 PM)

My Sub and I are both past 50 (and 55!) and we have that problem too. I've found that taking three or four 200 mg ibuprofen BEFORE play works to help prevent the muscle soreness. Kari finds that she is better off if she does some stretching exercises in the morning before we get togehter. If she knows we'll be playing that day she spends about 20 to 30 minutes relaxing and stretching so that she doesn't stiffen up. We've also found that a hot shower or a dip in the hot tub afterwards really helps.



Arpig -> RE: BDSM play aspects, and ageing the bad side of age play! (1/24/2006 11:54:21 PM)

it isn't just age-related. My pet is by no means aged, and she has a bad hip from a fall from a horse. It has put an end to a few play sessions. when it does, its time to break out the Ben Guy for it's original purpose, and usually that leads to a back rub, and some old fashioned cuddling...me on the other hand....I would be an atrocious subject for bondage, since my back gets sore from laying down when i am sleeping and wakes me up, and a hog-tie....not without breaking a few things[;)]. But in the end I figure all the aches and pains are just the result of a life well and truely lived with few worries about the longterm consequences...hell I never thought I'd make it to 35, let alone 45, so i didn't think it really mattered much (seemed like a good idea at the time...they should put that on my tombstone)



MHOO314 -> RE: BDSM play aspects, and ageing the bad side of age play! (1/25/2006 7:14:05 AM)

I believe we missed alot of little's question, it wasn't all "what do I need to do to be healthy"--it was what other techniques do those over 40 use to compensate for the age factor and ths stiff joints etc.

Now ladies and gentlemen, I am sure those if us over 40 appreciate all the recommendations about how to stay healthier, however this is based on the assumption that those of us over 40 are all slugs and don't work out--not true, however, little stated she could not do ropes like she could--chances are she cannot get in Yoga either---now given that---

I myself ride and work horses everyday and I happen to be in the best shape---but--I still have aches and pains--due to the fact that I also work at a laptop all day--My arms and elbows at the end of a day hurt like hell--that's why I do chains and hasp locks--

so to address part of her question---I use the "snap and go methodology" ( because I have long nails for one, like spontaneity for another, and yeah at times ache--)-so I use hasp locks, chains, bungie cords--I make sure restraints I use are supple--I use more click like things as opposed to things that take intricate work--( and the sound of the click to Me is hot as shit). These can also be worked into ropes to make scene prep faster--they can be premade with loops etc.

Personally I am more into the spontaneity--but even when I plan in detail, I use the clip and go methodology--it also allows for quick outs as people "our age" may have more of a tendency to heart attacks, etc.

In fact today, the list of toys I had the boy make ready for My trip are all easy in and easy out---and of course he learned, I hate rope--LOL

To continue--many of our partners are of the same age and cannot stay in positions as much as they once could, the clip and go methods allow for faster changes in positions for them as well...and actually keeps Me on My thinking toes--- as you mentioned, I am sure that after a while, you are more worried about the damn pain in your arm than the pleasure pain from the scene--

food for thought---a diueretic is dangerous as during a scene you expel fluid anyway and not everyone expels in the same time period, so you could get all tied up and have to pee---[:(]

I do recommend though good daily stretches ,morning and evening, these can be incorporated with devotion to Sir---and the tylenol/ibuprofen------(tylenol is awesome and one I use myself...)


and think of click and go--smiles





CelticPrince -> RE: BDSM play aspects, and ageing the bad side of age play! (1/25/2006 11:11:13 AM)

little1,

age is a relative thing, while your suspension tolerance may be limited now, the switch to easy mode is made easily with the imagination of your D.

just let it flow and the joints will catch up.

CP



Slavebitch11 -> RE: BDSM play aspects, and ageing the bad side of age play! (1/25/2006 12:34:58 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sirandlittle1

This is really for those of us, past the first flush of youth shall we say[;)]

Im sure that there are many people on collarme over 40 and beginning to feel the pinch of age in play, or others that overcome some physical disability. Are there remedies like cod liver oil etc. anything really,

little1




I'm relatively new to the lifestyle and older than you. I used to be addicted to morphine....now I'm addicted to bdsm! and, I have found a Master. I think we keep each other young....He's not in the flush of youth either.For me, that and the fact that I take lots of vitamins and supplements staves off or at least postpones the ageing process for a while. You're as old as the partner you feel...and if they dont feel old, you dont feel old.





subtoFemDommes -> RE: BDSM play aspects, and ageing the bad side of age play! (1/25/2006 12:37:19 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sirandlittle1
Im sure that there are many people on collarme over 40 and beginning to feel the pinch of age in play, or others that overcome some physical disability. Are there remedies like cod liver oil etc. anything really,


Google "Fish Oil" Consumer Reports

Yes, THERE IS! (Hallelujah!) and it's cheap, has been repeatedly confirmed to have tremendous benefits for both protection against cardiovascular disease and strokes and is a powerful anti-inflammatory agent. Everyone I know who's tried it has essentially agreed if there's any one nutritional supplement they wouldn't give up, it's this one: Fish Oil. Please read the articles on these links (Sorry, the full text of the Consumer's article probably isn't available, but there are a lot of excepts of it in the others). And the one that their labs rated very well (and thatI've been taking for a few years now) is Costco's brand. Cost? Here in the states, it's now 400, 1000 mg capsules for a whopping $8.99! The studies for cardio benefits have people taking 3 capsules a day.

A few caveats: Start slow, one capsule for a day or two, then two, then three to make sure you don't have any bad reactions. Always take them before eating, so that there's a stomach full of food on top of them; some people would find a burp with that stuff in an empty stomach rather distressing. Make sure to swallow the capsule with whatever you need to get it down (they're not small) and if for some reason you find yourself unable to get it down fast, DON'T KEEP IT IN YOUR MOUTH; if the gelatin melts and you're not Norwegian (Our local Seattle fish loving culture) you won't like it.

All of that being said, I can't say enough about the wonderful rejuvenation of joints this stuff seems to effect; a coworker who was a huge power lifter with a lifetime of related injuries, had been using glucosamine (which had helped a bit -- see Consumer Reports on that as well -- but it can raise cholesterol) found the fish oil miraculous within a couple of weeks. I've even had friends give it to animals with arthritis -- it's just fish oil!

Good luck and ... good swinging from those ropes ;-)



MHOO314 -> RE: BDSM play aspects, and ageing the bad side of age play! (1/25/2006 12:56:00 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: subtoFemDommes

Everyone I know who's tried it has essentially agreed if there's any one nutritional supplement they wouldn't give up, it's this one: Fish Oil. And one that their labs rated very well (and thatI've been taking for a few years now) is Costco's brand. Cost? Here in the states, it's now 400, 1000 mg capsules for a whopping $8.99!


All of that being said, I can't say enough about the wonderful rejuvenation of joints this stuff seems to effect;

Good luck and ... good swinging from those ropes ;-) [/color][/size]





soooooo boy I guess this means I needn't worry about your extended kneeling and hours of crawling and prostration this coming weekend as your joints are limber enough to handle that---ooohh and that delicious 12 foot chain you mentioned----well, I'll remember to bring the gloves! mmmmm clank clank---





subtoFemDommes -> RE: BDSM play aspects, and ageing the bad side of age play! (1/25/2006 1:13:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MHOO314
quote:

ORIGINAL: subtoFemDommes
Everyone I know who's tried it has essentially agreed if there's any one nutritional supplement they wouldn't give up, it's this one: Fish Oil. And one that their labs rated very well (and thatI've been taking for a few years now) is Costco's brand. Cost? Here in the states, it's now 400, 1000 mg capsules for a whopping $8.99!

All of that being said, I can't say enough about the wonderful rejuvenation of joints this stuff seems to effect;
Good luck and ... good swinging from those ropes ;-)


soooooo boy I guess this means I needn't worry about your extended kneeling and hours of crawling and prostration this coming weekend as your joints are limber enough to handle that---ooohh and that delicious 12 foot chain you mentioned----well, I'll remember to bring the gloves! mmmmm clank clank---



Uh ... Ma'am ... Really, i'll keep it warm enough so You won't need gloves indoors and it's really not gardening season here... OH! Yes, now i remember -- we were going to do some sightseeing up in the mountains! Yes Ma'am, it does get a bit chilly up there... {{{{{{{shiver}}}}}}}}



MHOO314 -> RE: BDSM play aspects, and ageing the bad side of age play! (1/25/2006 1:16:40 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: subtoFemDommes



Uh ... Ma'am ... Really, i'll keep it warm enough so You won't need gloves indoors and it's really not gardening season here... OH! Yes, now i remember -- we were going to do some sightseeing up in the mountains! Yes Ma'am, it does get a bit chilly up there... {{{{{{{shiver}}}}}}}}



especially chained to a tree.



subtoFemDommes -> RE: BDSM play aspects, and ageing the bad side of age play! (1/25/2006 1:21:58 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MHOO314
especially chained to a tree.


Whaaaaaaaa! (Ma'am!)



Sirandlittle1 -> RE: BDSM play aspects, and ageing the bad side of age play! (1/25/2006 1:24:08 PM)

The fish oil sound the lazy bitch method i like[:D]

I am active, i have two large dogs that need plenty of exercise, i have a dom that keep me bending and stretching, my point being, i am active. More so than most of my circle of friends.

I have multiple joint injuries and old broken bones from stupid sports ive indulged in badly, hey, what can i say, im english.

Yoga i have tried, and feel to restless within the class. When this is noticed by a teacher, they get all helpful, and my discomfort increases. So i dont return. Feels too 'hippyish' for me personally.

Ballet is something i enjoyed back home, but they do not have ballet for clumsy adult classes in australia.

So fish oil. Yep, im going to buy some today. Thankyou.
little1



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: BDSM play aspects, and ageing the bad side of age play! (1/25/2006 1:40:31 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sirandlittle1
When this is noticed by a teacher, they get all helpful, and my discomfort increases. So i dont return. Feels too 'hippyish' for me personally.

So the one option that really will help and is good for you...you make an excuse for.

You don't like people giving you actual help. I get that. But what are you doing here? I say push yourself to grow past your discomfort.



MHOO314 -> RE: BDSM play aspects, and ageing the bad side of age play! (1/25/2006 1:45:08 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sirandlittle1

The fish oil sound the lazy bitch method i like[:D]

I am active, i have two large dogs that need plenty of exercise, i have a dom that keep me bending and stretching, my point being, i am active. More so than most of my circle of friends.

I have multiple joint injuries and old broken bones from stupid sports ive indulged in badly, hey, what can i say, im english.

Yoga i have tried, and feel to restless within the class. When this is noticed by a teacher, they get all helpful, and my discomfort increases. So i dont return. Feels too 'hippyish' for me personally.

Ballet is something i enjoyed back home, but they do not have ballet for clumsy adult classes in australia.

So fish oil. Yep, im going to buy some today. Thankyou.
little1



well he claims he has been using it, I'll let you know how good it works after I unchain him from that tree--



FTopinMichigan -> RE: BDSM play aspects, and ageing the bad side of age play! (1/25/2006 2:16:08 PM)

I was getting my Omega 3s from fish oil pills.....[:'(] I decided to suffer withOUT them! What a horrible feeling when it decides to come back up on ya.[:@]

If you're curious to find your REAL age...there's a test at a website to find it out, versus your chronilogical age...the site is just that: realage.com

Thankfully, I'm not as old as I was! [:D]

K



slavejali -> RE: BDSM play aspects, and ageing the bad side of age play! (1/25/2006 2:37:14 PM)

There is a small amount of fluid in each joint called synovial fluid. Its whole purpose is to lubricate the joint. One of the reasons stretching is recommended before exercising is because it releases this fluid to do its work. Like has been mentioned, yoga or any kind of passive movement of the joints will really help before partaking in physical activity.
If you have any injury or infection in your joints, this fluid increases and swelling, stiffness and pain results. This can be relieved by self massage to move the fluid. Direction of your massage strokes is important. If you had pain in your ankles of knees you would apply upwards strokes towards the inguinal plexus (groin area) for example.


Bugger our bodies wear out hey *grin*



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