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tazzygirl -> RE: slave? (3/24/2009 4:30:05 PM)
sgs you will find there are as many different dynamics as there are people in and outside the lifestyle. its not a one relationship fits all kind of thing. you have to find the one that fits you best, a daunting task indeed. yet, so many seem to find that. in my relationships, i tended to find what excited a man, and played that up a notch. some men really get off on totally dominanting a woman, instilling that fear of the physical. some men likie a mouthy woman, and beating them into submission is part of the play. many wont own up to that... just be aware it is there.

MrBrittingham -> RE: slave? (3/25/2009 4:00:59 PM)
In my opinion, what this girl either needed or still needs, is a genuine master that can walk right up to her at her first attempt at trying to get her own needs satisfied, however cleverly disguised, rather than learning how to put her needs aside, and please her chosen master... and then look her right between the eyes and ask her - point blank... Are you a slave and am I your chosen master? Do you understand that these questions require a definate yes, or a definate no? If she answers yes, then he needs to tell her that in order to stay that way, she needs to put his needs and demands first and foremost, and if she does, she can stay, and if she does not, she will be tied-up, ball-gagged, left in the corner, and allowed to adjust her attitude with all of the time that she requires. If the answer is no, then he should dismiss her at once - ruthlessly, and spend his attention only on those who willingly and knowingly make a choice about who and what they are, and who and what he is to them... or come back within reality and deal with subs only. The so-called problem only manifested itself because of the dominants failure to get things straight from the beginning, but there is always a need for adjustment on both sides when we discover that we are in the shit happens mode. MB

l1ttle_0ne44 -> RE: slave? (3/25/2009 6:07:15 PM)
I'm going to go out on a limb here..... but I would assume one would first have to look at why she needed to be "beaten" everyday. Maybe things like was she a masochist and never got her fix? So the only way she could get that was acting out? Or maybe she didn't feel she got a lot of attention from the Dom so acting out let her know he still cared. Both cases can be fixed and I believe she could still be a slave. Now are either of those good behavior for a slave? I dont think so but then again to each their own. I would consider that topping from the bottom to get what the girl wanted. I believe communication and very important and that if the girl was feeling either of those then they should express those in a different way...... Then there is always the option that she is just a brat and does it for the fun of it and in that case no she is not a slave. but who am I to judge who is or isn't a slave?

DesFIP -> RE: slave? (3/25/2009 6:50:52 PM)
So who said brats can't be slaves? Lots of guys prefer this. They prefer a woman who doesn't always assume he's right, but will question, pointedly if necessary, to get him to rethink the situation and help him not make a major mistake instead of sitting back and watching him make a total fool of himself. They may by themselves come home and slump on the couch, remote in one hand and beer in the other, but realize that having a partner in crime, so to speak, who sparks him to get up and get active means he drinks less and exercises more. If so, then this slave is just what that owner needs. What is a pity is that the OP couldn't go to the couple and talk to them about her fears. About her inability to act the way his primary does, and that since she is different from the primary, she would be a failure. Because probably he wanted the OP precisely because she has totally different characteristics. The primary gets him moving, the OP would have rubbed his feet without being asked and helped him relax. Thus giving him more, not less. Wanting them both for their differences, not despite them.

LordMaster50 -> RE: slave? (3/25/2009 9:47:45 PM)
Yes she could be a Slave. In some people the pain of a beating makes the do things. Lord_Master

FullfigRIMAAM1 -> RE: slave? (3/25/2009 11:25:24 PM)
I would consider a boy who nicely begged for a beating every day as a slave. I would not consider someone who needed me to do A, B, or C, (unless A is my being a dominant, breathing brown babe), in order for him to be a slave to me. M

Juliannadelion -> RE: slave? (3/25/2009 11:43:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sweetgirlseeks Hi, Would you consider a girl who needs to be beaten almost daily to keep her 'attitude adjusted' to be a slave? ~sgs Absolutely. A masochistic slave, with a little bit of a brat complex. She just needs a Master that is also a sadist. I feel neglected if I am not beaten on a regular basis, but I don't misbehave to get a beating. My Master doesn't use beatings as a punishment, but a reward. Punishment is something far more mundane, like cutting metal rings for his chainmail until my hand cramps and I can't do it anymore. A slave is by any other name, is still a slave. [:D]

littlekitten1 -> RE: slave? (3/27/2009 6:35:05 AM)
The conclusion would be... Everyone is different and functions differently. If it doesn't work for you, then find something else =)

Kana -> RE: slave? (3/27/2009 10:50:50 AM)
Oh, this is one of those things that I suspect sounds super hot in theory (I mean, c'mon, a girl who wants, needs, craves hard play every single day, lots of guys are going to go oooohhhhhhhhhh. You know, the ones who are always looking for an excuse to punish.) But man, To me, I think it would get tedious after a while. I don't need to be in a see saw battle with a submissive/slave. And I am way to old to deal with a brat. Give me someone who can serve and obey, make my life easier, bring something to the table please.

RealSub58 -> RE: slave? (3/28/2009 10:46:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sweetgirlseeks Hi, Would you consider a girl who needs to be beaten almost daily to keep her 'attitude adjusted' to be a slave? ~sgs ~sgs has no profile. A sweet girl, lady, woman who needs an attitude adjustment on a daily basis, needs not to be beaten. She needs to get herself to boot camp and have a drill Sargent teach her how to be a well adjusted human being. Obviously her parents didn't have a course in parenting and now a grave indifference has been opened upon society. This brat of an ill adjusted human being wants to find solace in a subculture that thinks only a sadist has a spare room for them with the label of slave.

tazzygirl -> RE: slave? (3/28/2009 12:30:24 PM)
sgs was also caught posting under another name, which also has no profile, and admits to a third.

daddysliloneds -> RE: slave? (3/29/2009 7:48:00 AM)
for me, being beaten is an act of love on my dominants part; sometimes it's to feed my masochistic yearnings, and other times it is him helping me to control myself when i become out of control when i so desperately don't want to be that way... so, because sometimes i too need what the person you described needs, i would say, that yes, that person can be a slave; a slave that needs maintenance beatings.

DesFIP -> RE: slave? (3/29/2009 1:27:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl sgs was also caught posting under another name, which also has no profile, and admits to a third. And she's got a hidden agenda to discredit the slave thus described since they invited her in as a third and she left in a huff, unless they asked her to leave. So you can't trust her description of this woman as being accurate or honest.

littlekitten1 -> RE: slave? (3/31/2009 4:58:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RealSub58 W ~sgs has no profile. A sweet girl, lady, woman who needs an attitude adjustment on a daily basis, needs not to be beaten. She needs to get herself to boot camp and have a drill Sargent teach her how to be a well adjusted human being. Obviously her parents didn't have a course in parenting and now a grave indifference has been opened upon society. This brat of an ill adjusted human being wants to find solace in a subculture that thinks only a sadist has a spare room for them with the label of slave. Wow... and you being the 'real' sub have a right to judge a person and its parents based on one sentence spoken by another...

RealSub58 -> RE: slave? (3/31/2009 5:19:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl sgs was also caught posting under another name, which also has no profile, and admits to a third. damn ! ya know tazzy that is what I call deceit. What ya think?

RealSub58 -> RE: slave? (3/31/2009 5:24:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: littlekitten1 quote: ORIGINAL: RealSub58 W ~sgs has no profile. A sweet girl, lady, woman who needs an attitude adjustment on a daily basis, needs not to be beaten. She needs to get herself to boot camp and have a drill Sargent teach her how to be a well adjusted human being. Obviously her parents didn't have a course in parenting and now a grave indifference has been opened upon society. This brat of an ill adjusted human being wants to find solace in a subculture that thinks only a sadist has a spare room for them with the label of slave. Wow... and you being the 'real' sub have a right to judge a person and its parents based on one sentence spoken by another... You can mock my screen name all you want... it was chosen for me. Ha!!! Second, that was my fucking opinion...you can call it judging if you freakin want to. Feeling a bit brattish after reading miss little kitty...... Back to my regularly controlled self. You can't have peace until you have all the pieces.

littlekitten1 -> RE: slave? (3/31/2009 6:48:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RealSub58 quote: ORIGINAL: littlekitten1 quote: ORIGINAL: RealSub58 W ~sgs has no profile. A sweet girl, lady, woman who needs an attitude adjustment on a daily basis, needs not to be beaten. She needs to get herself to boot camp and have a drill Sargent teach her how to be a well adjusted human being. Obviously her parents didn't have a course in parenting and now a grave indifference has been opened upon society. This brat of an ill adjusted human being wants to find solace in a subculture that thinks only a sadist has a spare room for them with the label of slave. Wow... and you being the 'real' sub have a right to judge a person and its parents based on one sentence spoken by another... You can mock my screen name all you want... it was chosen for me. Ha!!! Second, that was my fucking opinion...you can call it judging if you freakin want to. Feeling a bit brattish after reading miss little kitty...... Back to my regularly controlled self. You can't have peace until you have all the pieces. Whatever... Having an opinion about others without knowing them IS judging.. That's the whole point you know. Also sorry if you felt I was mocking your screen name.. I didn't know it was chosen for you. I didn't mean to mock you. I just feel irked when people get judgmental Don't worry, be happy :)

TaoWoman -> RE: slave? (3/31/2009 8:13:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sweetgirlseeks Hi, Would you consider a girl who needs to be beaten almost daily to keep her 'attitude adjusted' to be a slave? ~sgs I consider a slave a person who is owned...period~ If she is owned by this man she is a slave, regardless of her behavior. Personally in my own relationships, I prefer adult, non passive-aggressive behavior. However, if their dynamic works for them - so be it. Slave is not a mindset. In my opinion~

littlekitten1 -> RE: slave? (3/31/2009 3:39:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TaoWoman Slave is not a mindset. I'm so, so, SO happy to hear someone say that... I thought I was the only one with this opinion x_x

TaoWoman -> RE: slave? (4/1/2009 4:02:27 PM)
Thankyou...it is not the most popular opinion though, I assure you~

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