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RE: Female Superiority why I believe it to be so - 3/22/2009 7:40:29 PM

AquaticSub

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AquaticSub,
Not every Woman is a nuturer.
Majority are. and that's bad ?
Please tell me where feminism is trying to get rid of this notion ?
Some Women are cruel, heartless etc I know that. majority i know and met aren't.
So stoning Adulter's to death at a public soccer field is something the Feminist movement would think is groovy?
And if the Women of Afganistan had the power, Sunday stonings and executions, would be reinstated, this time televise it.. that would be a regular crowd pleaser .

Your logic is still flawed beyond being able to take it seriously - the majority of men I know are loving and kind, who adore their children, strive to protect them and would never raise their hand to a woman without her consent. So, by your logic, men are fine for ruling the world because most of the men I know are super guys.

It doesn't matter that most women are nurturing or nice. The point is that, like with men, those who aren't would strive to cause mayhem. They would not magically go away. Your attempt to show that women are superior in this manner is the same as sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "I WANT IT TO BE THIS WAY SO IT IS!".

You have randomly brought stoning into this and yes, there are feminists who think that stoning men is perfectly acceptable because it's "justified". I have talked to women on this forum who seriously believe it would be best to keep the exact same conditions in that country and just swap the genders.

Nothing would change except the grade of cotton used in tampons.

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RE: Female Superiority why I believe it to be so - 3/22/2009 7:42:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: weldedcollar

AquaticSub,
Not every Woman is a nuturer.
Majority are. and that's bad ?
Please tell me where feminism is trying to get rid of this notion ?

The idea is that a woman is MORE than her ovaries.

I think that it is great that you think so highly of females. WooHoo and Wootles! More power to you!

BUT. . . and this is a big one. . .

The same ideas/ideals that you have stated in your OP, are the same ones that were used to keep the glass ceiling in place, the vote away from women, property out of women's hands. . . et cetera, ad nauseum. You are just throwing a different spin on it.

Your intentions are great. However, the protrait that you paint of womanhood is two-deminsional. It objectifies women by making them the observed and you the observer as much as if you stated things such as, "Nice ass", "Geat legs," "Mondo titties."

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RE: Female Superiority why I believe it to be so - 3/22/2009 7:43:10 PM

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ORIGINAL: weldedcollar

Dear RumpusParble,
With all due respect, You read what I wrote ?
marginalizes ? minimilizes ? Women , ya kidding me right ?
You must be ... dry sense of humor eh ? hehehe
love+peace weldedcollar.

Women have been put on platforms before as perfect and superior. Do some research in history and feminism. The idea that we were the better gender was a fundemantal part of the reasoning of "Women must be protected and shielded from the world by their husbands and fathers".

It's a dangerous line of thinking and I agree with Rumpus. You are making women out to be what you want them to, just like men of previous generations, instead of accepting what they are.

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RE: Female Superiority why I believe it to be so - 3/22/2009 7:44:19 PM

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female superiority indicates male inferiorty, as a male i think the instant 50% of the population is better than me is a little saddening. i have known some people who have thought seriously that either men or woman were better(debatable if gym teachers are actual people) i dont get it, it seems a instant plateau relationship(the ugly type not the super hot kind) i guess it would be ok for gay relationships..

i actually thought females were supperior around 15 or so as i was raised by a pretty pigish man and had alot of strong female influences around me, but then i realised i respected and was disgusted with people becuase of them not gender,i think its a insult to a strong female to say she is strong not becuase she is herself but becuase of her gender, same with men, a weak man is weak becuase he is weak not becuase he is a man.

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RE: Female Superiority why I believe it to be so - 3/22/2009 7:46:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: Vanityfull

i think its a insult to a strong female to say she is strong not becuase she is herself but becuase of her gender, same with men, a weak man is weak becuase he is weak not becuase he is a man.

Now that's something interesting and I have to say I agree. Just as not everything with a vagina is my friend or every submissive my sister, I am not strong because I happen to have a vagina.

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RE: Female Superiority why I believe it to be so - 3/22/2009 7:58:57 PM

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Dear Aylee,
Thank You, for aknowledging that my intentions are great.
But you are projecting some mistaken beliefs of your own on me.
with regard to going back to keeping Women from voting etc etc.
Your so wrong,
Intent----Intentions---- is what's important.. all the rest of your argument against what I wrote is your mistaken projection on my clear and honest intentions,
To which I believe Woman are Superior
But You Ladies here may be changing my mind .....
You seem ....
Well....
I'll just let that pass
Love + Peace weldedcollar

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RE: Female Superiority why I believe it to be so - 3/22/2009 8:01:34 PM

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weldedcollar...

Isn't it wonderful that we are able to have our own opinions and the ability to express them.

Isn't it also wonderful that we can agree to disagree.

It is my opinion that to choose one group to have power over another based on gender and misguided views is doing a disservice to all parties involved. To say the world would be a better place if run by women negates any positive action done by men throughout history. Not all men are warmongers and corrupt crooks conspiring to do evil just as all women aren't maternal and peace-loving.

When I read posts such as yours, I'm reminded of a quote from The Lord of the Rings (the book, not the movie) where The Lady Galadriel is offered the ring of power...
" In the place of a Dark Lord you would have a Queen! Not dark but beautiful and terrible as the Morn! Treacherous as the Seas! Stronger than the foundations of the Earth! All shall love me and despair!"
Having a woman in power doesn't guarantee a perfect world.

I'm not going to argue politics, feminism and world mysogyny. I would ask that you remember to view ALL women as multi-dimensional and a mixed bag of contradictions. Much like men

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RE: Female Superiority why I believe it to be so - 3/22/2009 8:03:10 PM

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ORIGINAL: weldedcollar

Dear Aylee,
Thank You, for aknowledging that my intentions are great.
But you are projecting some mistaken beliefs of your own on me.
with regard to going back to keeping Women from voting etc etc.
Your so wrong,
Intent----Intentions---- is what's important.. all the rest of your argument against what I wrote is your mistaken projection on my clear and honest intentions,
To which I believe Woman are Superior
But You Ladies here may be changing my mind .....
You seem ....
Well....
I'll just let that pass
Love + Peace weldedcollar

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Hilter had the best of intentions for Germany. Good intentions can be a worth a great deal. They can also be meaningless in the face of the consquences.

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RE: Female Superiority why I believe it to be so - 3/22/2009 8:07:06 PM

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ORIGINAL: weldedcollar

Dear RumpusParble,
With all due respect, You read what I wrote ?
marginalizes ? minimilizes ? Women , ya kidding me right ?
You must be ... dry sense of humor eh ? hehehe
love+peace weldedcollar.

To answer simply and for the last time here: not humor in the least; you described fantasy objects, not humans with depth and variety in manners, thoughts, approaches, feelings, etc.

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RE: Female Superiority why I believe it to be so - 3/22/2009 8:17:53 PM

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Dear CarrieO,
Haven't we chose one group now , which has been in effect for thousands of years, over another , and though not all are warmongers, but do own stock in lockheed martin, and Halliburton, But have never served in the Military,
My experiences with Women, My experiences with Men, have shown me, that women are more likely to want to stop attrocities, less likely to turn a blind eye to suffering. To be less violent. To share what they have with others.
I know some great men. Who are kind , loving , gentle, strong and would go to war but prefer peace.
My view before , and my view now Whether you Ladies like it or not ....
Is .....smiles.....Your gender...is of a higher order ... sorry Ladies...
Love+Peace weldedcollar.

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RE: Female Superiority why I believe it to be so - 3/22/2009 8:24:28 PM

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Just a thought ...
Has anyone petitioned Collarme to take Female Superiority off the Interest Profiles ?
Seems with this group who responded to my post, it shouldn't even be listed with interest's.....
Might be something for y'all to look into.
Love+Peace weldedcollar.

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RE: Female Superiority why I believe it to be so - 3/22/2009 8:34:11 PM

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Dear Lockit,
I'm submissive, but very resilent. hehehehehehehe
I like discussions . hehe
Thank You though , truly
Love+Peace weldedcollar

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RE: Female Superiority why I believe it to be so - 3/22/2009 9:03:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: weldedcollar

Just a thought ...
Has anyone petitioned Collarme to take Female Superiority off the Interest Profiles ?
Seems with this group who responded to my post, it shouldn't even be listed with interest's.....
Might be something for y'all to look into.
Love+Peace weldedcollar.

No, that would be silly. I don't have to think something is logical for someone else to be interested in it. A prime example of this is the Creationist Musuem. I think their logic is horribly flawed but I don't feel the need to bother them about it. Now, if they choose to present it on a discussion forum I'm part of, I'll also be happy to show them the holes in their logic.

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Without my dominance you cannot submit. Without your submission I cannot dominate. You are my equal in this, though our roles are different.-Val

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RE: Female Superiority why I believe it to be so - 3/22/2009 9:05:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: weldedcollar

Dear CarrieO,
Haven't we chose one group now , which has been in effect for thousands of years, over another , and though not all are warmongers, but do own stock in lockheed martin, and Halliburton, But have never served in the Military,
My experiences with Women, My experiences with Men, have shown me, that women are more likely to want to stop attrocities, less likely to turn a blind eye to suffering. To be less violent. To share what they have with others.
I know some great men. Who are kind , loving , gentle, strong and would go to war but prefer peace.
My view before , and my view now Whether you Ladies like it or not ....
Is .....smiles.....Your gender...is of a higher order ... sorry Ladies...
Love+Peace weldedcollar.

The irony here is that you have such lack of respect for women as individuals, having created a fantasy for yourself about the entire gender, that you refuse to treat them as they want to be treated but instead serve your own needs by putting us all on platforms instead of the ones who want to be there.

< Message edited by AquaticSub -- 3/22/2009 9:06:20 PM >

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RE: Female Superiority why I believe it to be so - 3/22/2009 9:17:09 PM

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You have stated opinions with no specific why's. You do realize there is no scientific proof that shows that one gender is superior to another, correct? You do realize that nature created males and females, as two parts of a whole? Do you know of any matriarchal societies that I could read about, that would relate to how this would be?

Since you are stating this as just your opinion, and beliefs, that one gender is superior to another, it validates anyone that feels that one gender is superior to another. There have already been many things pointed out to you in this thread, but I am sure your fantasies will remain the same.

Hope that works for you.

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ORIGINAL: weldedcollar

I could get very long winded about this topic, but i won't.
in other topics ,there have been discussions , an arguments dealing with Female Superiority ,
Those who believe in, those that don't.
Those who think the gender's are the same ...... equal.
my take , my REAL belief is that .......
IF the current power brokers, in this World, which are now men,
The, Presidents , Prime Ministers, CEO's of global companies, Military Hierarchy, were...... Women.
That a dramatic change would happen...
It is this......
That no child, would go to bed hungry tonight.
That no child, would go to bed cold.
That every child would have suffiecient clothing.
That every child would have the opportunity of an education .
If war transpired, it would be minor skirmishes, or none.
So this is why i believe in Female Superiority,
From this one can also read between the lines,
This is why in my profile, i have Female Superiority listed as something i Love.
Just my Belief.
peace+love weldedcollar.

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RE: Female Superiority why I believe it to be so - 3/22/2009 10:37:17 PM

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Generally speaking women are incredible beings and listening to them wouldnt hurt, 9 times out of 10 or more even. I dont feel they are superior or inferior. They are one side of the plug. You need both parts in my opinion. Men bring things, women bring things and when women are given the space to bring it, it usually turns out well.

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RE: Female Superiority why I believe it to be so - 3/23/2009 2:50:07 AM

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All people, of either gender and any/all race are equal.

Women superior? In politics? Think Hillary if she had won. A female version of Dick Cheney. Her whole life has been nothing but harnessing and gaining power for herself, plus money, money, money, and then of course insider trading, lying, lying, screwing people over, lying and more money and power.
She is one of the most corrupt women I have ever heard of.
(Her getting her new "job" was my first "G-damn you Obama moment! Well right after Rahm, lol. ). :)

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RE: Female Superiority why I believe it to be so - 3/23/2009 2:56:22 AM

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ORIGINAL: weldedcollar

It is this......
That no child, would go to bed hungry tonight.
That no child, would go to bed cold.
That every child would have suffiecient clothing.
That every child would have the opportunity of an education .
If war transpired, it would be minor skirmishes, or none.
So this is why i believe in Female Superiority,
From this one can also read between the lines,
This is why in my profile, i have Female Superiority listed as something i Love.
Just my Belief.
peace+love weldedcollar.

Why's that then? Because you're a child and you don't want to go hungry?!

As for war, step into an office and you'll see women at war. It's not pretty.

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RE: Female Superiority why I believe it to be so - 3/23/2009 4:03:15 AM

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

quote:

ORIGINAL: weldedcollar

Dear CarrieO,
Haven't we chose one group now , which has been in effect for thousands of years, over another , and though not all are warmongers, but do own stock in lockheed martin, and Halliburton, But have never served in the Military,
My experiences with Women, My experiences with Men, have shown me, that women are more likely to want to stop attrocities, less likely to turn a blind eye to suffering. To be less violent. To share what they have with others.
I know some great men. Who are kind , loving , gentle, strong and would go to war but prefer peace.
My view before , and my view now Whether you Ladies like it or not ....
Is .....smiles.....Your gender...is of a higher order ... sorry Ladies...
Love+Peace weldedcollar.

The irony here is that you have such lack of respect for women as individuals, having created a fantasy for yourself about the entire gender, that you refuse to treat them as they want to be treated but instead serve your own needs by putting us all on platforms instead of the ones who want to be there.

AquaticSub...

This is why I didn't bother to reply to his response. If he had really taken the time to read what I wrote, he would have seen that I acknowledged his opinion...didn't agree but didn't deny.

His "respect" of women is what I question. I have no desire to force someone to respect me just as I have no desire to be forced to fit someone's image of all women.

< Message edited by CarrieO -- 3/23/2009 4:07:12 AM >

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RE: Female Superiority why I believe it to be so - 3/23/2009 4:24:20 AM

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That stuff is not true. Women are not necessarily any more caring or honest than men. There are plenty of women who abuse or neglect kids and do all sorts of other awful things.

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