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LadyPact -> The Myth Debunking Thread on male subs (3/23/2009 5:51:49 AM)
Not sure how this will go over, but it's the equal time thread. Myth - All male subs have no backbone, could be considered wimps, and grovel at anyone who slaps the label "Dominant" in front of woman in her profile. (Yes, Darch, still love ya, dear.)

sfdrew -> RE: The Myth Debunking Thread on male subs (3/23/2009 6:00:56 AM)
.... ugh.... subs are not the most attractive, smart, witty, funny, good-looking, modest people in the world.... [;)]

CatdeMedici -> RE: The Myth Debunking Thread on male subs (3/23/2009 6:12:56 AM)
We are ALL in life, submissives to something, someone--even the most arrogant, domineering male Dominants in life "wimp" to someone as they call it. IMHO some men need to get over the "pussy whipped" concept and realize different "strokes" for different folks, but then that would mean there would be fewer cock comparisons at the watering trough.

Lashra -> RE: The Myth Debunking Thread on male subs (3/23/2009 6:41:42 AM)
All male subs are broken men who need to be "fixed" so that they are naturally dominant again. All male subs are gay. All male subs were Mama's boys growing up that is why they are submissive. All male subs have a panty wearing fetish. ~Lashra

youngsubgeoff -> RE: The Myth Debunking Thread on male subs (3/23/2009 6:49:13 AM)
all male subs are rich, powerful CEO's with no wife or kids and are easily relocateable All male subs are smaller, more effemenent men

Vendaval -> RE: The Myth Debunking Thread on male subs (3/23/2009 7:26:05 AM)
"All male subs are weak little girly-men with no brains, backbone or thoughts of their own."

ShaktiSama -> RE: The Myth Debunking Thread on male subs (3/23/2009 7:26:39 AM)
Oh god, so many of them. All men of any orientation are "gay" or at least "bi" if they enjoy anal sex, and dominant men who enjoy anal sex are not really dominant, they are switches or submissives in dom's clothing. Submissive men are not really "submissive", they are just creeps looking for free kinky sex. All submissive men think that women can be bought and are interested in nothing but money. All submissive men enjoy (fill in rare fetish of choice). All submissive men are morons who fall for "tribute" scams and con games run by Nigerians. All submissive men are incapable of distinguishing between fantasy and reality. All submissive men are completely uninterested in loving, mutually supportive long term relationships. All submissive men are female supremacists. All submissive men spend 24 hours a day masturbating like meth-addicted chimpanzees to femdom pornography.

Domin8tingUrDrmz -> RE: The Myth Debunking Thread on male subs (3/23/2009 7:48:46 AM)
All submissive men are secretly dominant men trying to get their do-me lists fulfilled. All hetero-submissive men are submissive to everyone including other men (and vice versa for other sexual orientations). All submissive men LOVE pain! All submissive men want to be forced to suck cock. All submissive men love to do dishes and paint toenails and wear maids outfits while doing such fun chores.

IndigoMystry -> RE: The Myth Debunking Thread on male subs (3/23/2009 8:06:19 AM)
All male subs are available 24/7 for kinky sexy humiliating acts whether or not they have a job, responsibilities, incurred debts, ex-wives, kids, parents, etc, etc. All male subs really just want to masturbate on cam for their Godesses' pleasure All male subs are vanilla guys who have to be "taught" by a Dominant woman how to serve NO male sub ever looks like Elmer Fudd instead of an Abercromie & Fitch model

ElanSubdued -> RE: The Myth Debunking Thread on male subs (3/23/2009 11:46:26 AM)
LadyPact, Nobody commented on my input in The Myth Debunking Thread for dommes. pouts a little :-) Perhaps I'll have better luck stirring debate here. I know this might be a controversial point of view, but contrary to popular belief, most submissives' lives don't revolve solely around their dominants. We have our own desires, dreams, goals, and things we do that don't involve our dominant partners at all. It's common that submissive men are characterized as viewing their dominants as fetish providers. Again, I think this is bunk. Of the submissives I know, all of them view their dommes as women and a large portion of the time they spend with their partners isn't guided by BDSM desires and interactions, or play. In short, us kinky folk are often a lot more vanilla than we give ourselves credit for. Personal case in point, when I ask my domme if she'd like a cup of coffee, I don't ask because she's a dominant and I'm a submissive. Rather, it's because she's my partner and I enjoy doing nice things for her and seeing her happy. One more before I go. If a submissive picks up floggers and other BDSM toys and is, in fact, proficient with these toys, they're not submissive. Yeah. Right. Moral of the story... I've met dommes who like receiving "spankie wankies" and who enjoy it when their submissive is amply capable of getting and giving. The person receiving an action may or may not be submissive. The person guiding the action is usually dominant. Hah! Even that doesn't always hold true. When I'm asked to give a spanking, I do indeed lead the action... until my domme decides otherwise! :-) Elan.

GoodgirlFind -> RE: The Myth Debunking Thread on male subs (3/23/2009 12:52:06 PM)
Elan- does submission make you feel inferior to the domme? You seem to want to deflate the power of a dom/me over the sub. Many people choose to submit because satisfying their dom by giving into his will makes them happy. That's why we submit. Does giving up control make you feel less of a man?

slavekal -> RE: The Myth Debunking Thread on male subs (3/23/2009 1:53:55 PM)
What irritates me is when people actually live up to some of these stereotypes. And many people do.

Lockit -> RE: The Myth Debunking Thread on male subs (3/23/2009 1:58:41 PM)
It irritates me too! lol

ElanSubdued -> RE: The Myth Debunking Thread on male subs (3/23/2009 2:32:03 PM)
GoodgirlFind, --- You seem to want to deflate the power --- of a dom/me over the sub. Many people --- choose to submit because satisfying their --- dom by giving into his will makes them --- happy. That's why we submit. I don't mean to answer your question with a question, but... where in my post did I say anything about deflating the power of a dominant? Many submissives enjoy the whole of their dominant partners (inside and outside the BDSM arena). This is all I was saying. Perhaps you thought my comments, vis-a-vis serving coffee, were loaded or that my other comments were loaded in some way. I'm simply pointing out that submissives aren't always in uber fetish mode. For example, much of the time I enjoy interacting with my domme simply because we like each other. There may or may not be overt elements of BDSM involved, and she usually decides this based on her mood (although, if I think she's open to it, I may also attempt to seduce her :-). Answering your questions directly: --- Does giving up control make --- you feel less of a man? No. My submissive nature is part of what makes me who I am and I'm very comfortable with this. --- Does submission make you feel --- inferior to the domme? No. I greatly enjoy sharing and embracing the traits that make me submissive and my partner dominant, hopefully always in ways that enrich us both. Along side this, I'm an advocate of the idea that BDSM relationships are still, none-the-less, relationships. Many of the things that allow a BDSM relationship to flourish aren't much different from vanilla relationships. Yes, of course, there are some differences in chain of command and extra-curricular activities, but the fundamental elements (trust, honesty, friendship, compassion, love, etc.) are often as equally important to kinky people as they are to vanilla folks. I won't say the fact a woman is dominant doesn't play into what attracts me, however, this figures less than one might think. I have to like a woman fundamentally as a person (and as a dominant) before my desire to share my submission develops. I suppose this means I'm not automatically submissive to every person I meet. There's a complex set of dynamics and chemistry that goes into what opens and inspires the submissive aspects of my psyche. Elan.

LadyPact -> RE: The Myth Debunking Thread on male subs (3/23/2009 2:33:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ElanSubdued LadyPact, Nobody commented on my input in The Myth Debunking Thread for dommes. pouts a little :-) Perhaps I'll have better luck stirring debate here. I know this might be a controversial point of view, but contrary to popular belief, most submissives' lives don't revolve solely around their dominants. We have our own desires, dreams, goals, and things we do that don't involve our dominant partners at all. It's common that submissive men are characterized as viewing their dominants as fetish providers. Again, I think this is bunk. Of the submissives I know, all of them view their dommes as women and a large portion of the time they spend with their partners isn't guided by BDSM desires and interactions, or play. In short, us kinky folk are often a lot more vanilla than we give ourselves credit for. Personal case in point, when I ask my domme if she'd like a cup of coffee, I don't ask because she's a dominant and I'm a submissive. Rather, it's because she's my partner and I enjoy doing nice things for her and seeing her happy. One more before I go. If a submissive picks up floggers and other BDSM toys and is, in fact, proficient with these toys, they're not submissive. Yeah. Right. Moral of the story... I've met dommes who like receiving "spankie wankies" and who enjoy it when their submissive is amply capable of getting and giving. The person receiving an action may or may not be submissive. The person guiding the action is usually dominant. Hah! Even that doesn't always hold true. When I'm asked to give a spanking, I do indeed lead the action... until my domme decides otherwise! :-) Elan. My dear elan, This thread, like the other, was basically created to let off steam. I think by now you are familiar with the fact that I like a good laugh and it seemed like a good opportunity. There aren't actually any of your statements that I disagree with. Not long ago, I had a thread going in the general forum based on My opinion that activity does not equate role. In our collective group of those who enjoy wiitwd, there are certainly submissives who enjoy topping as well as Dominants who are also masochists and all kinds of other things. If you're interested, I titled it "The Automatic Switch" should you like to read it. And, no, personally I wouldn't be happy with a boy who had no outside interests other than Me. I much prefer Mine to be a well rounded person, with his own likes, dislikes, hobbies, skills, and all other components that lead one to have a fulfilling life. There's a huge difference in not having them than accepting who has the authority in the dynamic. Now, back to the funny part.

LaTigresse -> RE: The Myth Debunking Thread on male subs (3/23/2009 2:52:52 PM)
That a wonderful, delightful, male slave cannot be a fabulous friend, to a lesbian dominant.

DVsFox -> RE: The Myth Debunking Thread on male subs (3/23/2009 2:54:46 PM)
A submissive male CANNOT be submissive if he's had an orgasm recently. It's just impossible, because he's not a slave to his Owner, he's a slave to his Penis. DV's Fox

MarsBonfire -> RE: The Myth Debunking Thread on male subs (3/23/2009 3:13:08 PM)
MYTH: male subs are selfish, and when the chips are down, they never move to protect those around them. MYTH: male subs are wannabe eunichs. MYTH: male subs care more about the leather, than the person wearing it. MYTH: all male subs want to be "shared" with his Domme's friends.

LovingMistress45 -> RE: The Myth Debunking Thread on male subs (3/23/2009 3:29:53 PM)
A malesub can't handle it if his Domme has a bad day and isn't in a scene mood A malesub has no interest in knowing his Domme out the fetish context A malesub is not capable of making a decision on his own All malesubs want to be treated like worthless pieces of shit

OneMoreWaste -> RE: The Myth Debunking Thread on male subs (3/23/2009 4:56:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama All submissive men spend 24 hours a day masturbating like meth-addicted chimpanzees to femdom pornography. Exactly- that's patently untrue! In fact, we usually only get 3-4 hours a day for compulsive masturbation. We spend the rest of the time sending "cock shots" to any random Domme who crosses our monitors, in hopes of getting some free verbal abuse to fuel that masturbation.

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