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DedicatedDom40 -> Younger McCain takes on the Coulter, Limbaugh GOP 'problem' (3/25/2009 7:13:47 AM)


http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-03-09/my-beef-with-ann-coulter/


"I am not suggesting that extreme conservatism wasn’t once popular, nor am I suggesting I should in any way be any kind of voice for the party. I have been a Republican for less than a year. Still, even after losing the election, I find myself more drawn to GOP ideals and wanting to fight for the party’s resurgence. And if figureheads like Ann Coulter are turning me off, then they are definitely turning off other members of my generation as well. She does appeal to the most extreme members of the Republican Party—but they are dying off, becoming less and less relevant to the party structure as a whole. I think most people my age are like me in that we all don’t believe in every single ideal of each party specifically. The GOP should be happy to have any young supporters whatsoever, even if they do digress some from traditional Republican thinking.


Conservative columnist Kathleen Parker finds Meghan McCain's words intriguing and on message.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/24/AR2009032402465.html

"Moreover, thanks to the "Internets," as our former president liked to say, young people are gaining influence sooner than ever before. One of the smarter, slicker political Web sites, Scoop44, is produced, written and edited by high school and college students across the country. Its editor in chief, Alexander Heffner, is a 19-year-old undergraduate at Harvard.

As Heffner put it in a February interview, he and his colleagues belong to a generation that was galvanized by Barack Obama to take their civic responsibility seriously. Meghan McCain may be simply another manifestation of that call to engagement. And she isn't wrong on the substance of her charges.

The GOP's extreme voices are a turnoff, not just to young people but to millions of Americans who might otherwise be attracted to conservative principles. Who better to point that out than a young maverick named McCain?"






housesub4you -> RE: Younger McCain takes on the Coulter, Limbaugh GOP 'problem' (3/25/2009 7:22:21 AM)

I think the extremes on both sides are turning people off.  No matter what either party chooses to believe most of the people in this country are in the middle.

However as the old saying goes "the sqeaky wheel, get's the oil"  The media plays to the extremes because they need ratings to sell ad's.  While the rest of us go about our lives not being heard by Washington.

Until we vote them out and then they still can't seem to figure out why.




rulemylife -> RE: Younger McCain takes on the Coulter, Limbaugh GOP 'problem' (3/25/2009 8:47:31 AM)

Well, while I agree with her, she wouldn't be getting any credibility if she was not McCain's daughter.




kittinSol -> RE: Younger McCain takes on the Coulter, Limbaugh GOP 'problem' (3/25/2009 8:52:19 AM)

I like this girl. Finally, a compassionate, intelligent, conservative woman. She's completely right, too. The extremists within the GOP are dying off - it's just that it would benefit the party hugely if their demise should be accelerated a little.  




Irishknight -> RE: Younger McCain takes on the Coulter, Limbaugh GOP 'problem' (3/25/2009 10:11:35 AM)

I think we need to pray for the demise of the extremists on both sides.  If the right seems to move more toward center and the left still seemes extreme in a few years, then we could get another Bush. Of course, right now, the pubs are playing the "we won't help with anything" game that the dems used to play. 
I say we fire all of Congress and replace them with human beings.




VanessaChaland -> RE: Younger McCain takes on the Coulter, Limbaugh GOP 'problem' (3/26/2009 2:59:52 AM)

 Bravo, Encore and all that jazz. :)

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ORIGINAL: Irishknight

I think we need to pray for the demise of the extremists on both sides.  If the right seems to move more toward center and the left still seemes extreme in a few years, then we could get another Bush. Of course, right now, the pubs are playing the "we won't help with anything" game that the dems used to play. 
I say we fire all of Congress and replace them with human beings.




MrRodgers -> RE: Younger McCain takes on the Coulter, Limbaugh GOP 'problem' (3/26/2009 4:33:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Irishknight

I think we need to pray for the demise of the extremists on both sides.  If the right seems to move more toward center and the left still seemes extreme in a few years, then we could get another Bush. Of course, right now, the pubs are playing the "we won't help with anything" game that the dems used to play. 
I say we fire all of Congress and replace them with human beings.

Dems used to play ?

For 6 yrs. the dems were not even in on (closed out of) many committee and sub-committee meetings, were not allowed to offer amends and were told in essence...you don't even need to show up.

Yes, she may be famous now for being a McCain but will show the core rightwing fanatics (liars)...their time has past.




VanessaChaland -> RE: Younger McCain takes on the Coulter, Limbaugh GOP 'problem' (3/26/2009 4:35:27 AM)

Isn't that what they said about Sarah Palin? :)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

I like this girl. Finally, a compassionate, intelligent, conservative woman. She's completely right, too.   




kittinSol -> RE: Younger McCain takes on the Coulter, Limbaugh GOP 'problem' (3/26/2009 5:02:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: VanessaChaland

Isn't that what they said about Sarah Palin? :)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

I like this girl. Finally, a compassionate, intelligent, conservative woman. She's completely right, too.   



Never, no. Palin's marketing coup was that she was a rottweiler with lipgloss, or a pig with blusher, or something to that effect [8D].




hamptonscouple -> RE: Younger McCain takes on the Coulter, Limbaugh GOP 'problem' (3/26/2009 5:29:45 AM)

The real difference between mrs. palin and a pitbull is you can have a pit spayed. 




kittinSol -> RE: Younger McCain takes on the Coulter, Limbaugh GOP 'problem' (3/26/2009 5:30:37 AM)

Ouch.




MarsBonfire -> RE: Younger McCain takes on the Coulter, Limbaugh GOP 'problem' (3/26/2009 5:32:13 AM)

I think Ms. McCain has the right idea (pun) but unfortunately, the extreme dinosaurs within her party will find a way to discredit her. Political force has a certain inertia to it, and the GOP has been accellerating it's path toward irrellevance for decades. When the old, rich, racist at the wheel is driving a school bus straight for the edge of a cliff at 200 mph, the fact that one of the kids in the back stands up and says, "hey, this isn't working for me." Isn't going to do much to stop what's happening.





lronitulstahp -> RE: Younger McCain takes on the Coulter, Limbaugh GOP 'problem' (3/26/2009 7:31:08 AM)

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but unfortunately, the extreme dinosaurs within her party will find a way to discredit her. Political force has a certain inertia to it, and the GOP has been accellerating it's path toward irrellevance for decades. When the old, rich, racist at the wheel is driving a school bus straight for the edge of a cliff at 200 mph, the fact that one of the kids in the back stands up and says, "hey, this isn't working for me." Isn't going to do much to stop what's happening.




Pessimism isn't exactly helping the problem of extreme partisanship.  i think any forward-moving people on either side ought to be encouraged. If people could gravitate more towards the middle....we might actually be able to prosper as a nation.




slaveboyforyou -> RE: Younger McCain takes on the Coulter, Limbaugh GOP 'problem' (3/26/2009 7:51:12 AM)

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Pessimism isn't exactly helping the problem of extreme partisanship.  i think any forward-moving people on either side ought to be encouraged. If people could gravitate more towards the middle....we might actually be able to prosper as a nation.


Pssst.....MarsBonfire thinks everyone in the Republican Party are "old, rich racists" out to drive kids off of cliffs.  He thinks all the Democrats are Jesus.  If Obama or anyone in his crew got caught red-handed pushing old ladies down, making "retard" faces at the Special Olympics, or stealing money from the Salvation Army can at Christmas.....they'd still start shouting, "Bush did this, and Bush did that....BUSH!!!!!!!!!!"




Owner59 -> RE: Younger McCain takes on the Coulter, Limbaugh GOP 'problem' (3/26/2009 8:03:06 AM)

Now that`s,....a bit extreme,slaveboy...




kdsub -> RE: Younger McCain takes on the Coulter, Limbaugh GOP 'problem' (3/26/2009 8:11:52 AM)

Politics would be pretty boring most of the time without the nutcases. I hope they stick around ...and knowing human nature they will.





slvemike4u -> RE: Younger McCain takes on the Coulter, Limbaugh GOP 'problem' (3/26/2009 12:41:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

I like this girl. Finally, a compassionate, intelligent, conservative woman. She's completely right, too. The extremists within the GOP are dying off - it's just that it would benefit the party hugely if their demise should be accelerated a little.  
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Are You per chance suggesting a course of action designed to accelerate this process? Need help?




Reverend0Link -> RE: Younger McCain takes on the Coulter, Limbaugh GOP 'problem' (3/26/2009 1:33:33 PM)

I find the reactions of Limbaugh and other "Republicans" to this young woman quite offensive. Further, I find them to be anything but representative of the Republican party. The Republican party was founded on the ideals of equality and joint prosperity. The Republican party freed the slaves and granted equal protection under the law. Now we have Limbaugh and his ilk making the Republican party so unrecognizable that equality is now thought to be soley a Democratic party principle.




MarsBonfire -> RE: Younger McCain takes on the Coulter, Limbaugh GOP 'problem' (3/26/2009 5:23:13 PM)

Iron, I agree with you completely. The loss of moderate choices is what has crippled the GOP. When John McCain had to stand there, at one of his "town hall" meetings, and tell a crazy haired old lady in a red jumper that she was completely wrong about Obama... Well, obviously things had gone a little too far afield from reality. (Thank you, republicans who engaged in the "whisper campain"... you helped us in ways you'll never be able to comprehend.)

SB4U, no, I don't believe ALL republicans are old, rich, racists. Only the ones who control the party are. The rest of the republican party are just easily deluded marks, who swallow all that "The Way Things Ought to Be" crap whole. Look back over history... the GOP slams the country and the economy into near ruin, and it's the democrats who have to clean the mess up. Dems are like the long suffering wife married to an abusive, trailer trash husband. The GOP slaps the US around, raping the Constitution, blowing it's money on "pre-emptive wars" like they're doing crystal meth. Carl Rove's "permanent majority" bit was similar to the drunken creep pulling a pistol out and threatening to shoot the kids. Meanwhile, the Dems sit quietly by, trying not to make the drunken, violent partner angry with them... then, when the GOP finally crashes, face down in the gutter, still clutching the now emptied bottle of power... the Dems begin to clean up the mess.

America just voted to change. That's all. They said enough was enough, and called the cops.




slaveboyforyou -> RE: Younger McCain takes on the Coulter, Limbaugh GOP 'problem' (3/26/2009 5:34:15 PM)

Okay, I'll look back over history Mars:

Vietnam = Democratic Congress/Democratic President/liberal Supreme Court

Late 70's/early 80's recession which was much, much worse than the present = Democrats, namely Jimmy Carter

Early 90's Recession = Democratic Congress/ moderate Republican President

Late 90's-early 2000's recession = Republican Congress/Democratic President

Iraq War and Current recession = Democratic Congress/Republican President.

Hmmm, looks like the Democrats have been in there the whole time.  If the Democrats sat quietly by because they were 'fraidy cats, than they weren't fit to be in Congress, were they?  Your drunken hillbilly husband/poor abused wife argument is completely bogus.  Legislative and Executive branches are equal powers.  If the Legislative branch are scared little bitches, than they aren't fit for office. 





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