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SailingBum -> RE: Has any Master used a cow prod (3/26/2009 1:56:20 PM)

It's the amperage that kills not the volt.  Car battery perfect example  only 12 volt 400 amps huge spark.  House 120 volts 15 amps small spark. 

BadOne



IronBear -> RE: Has any Master used a cow prod (3/26/2009 2:59:49 PM)

Try it with our 150 volts home supply at 15 amps although 30 amps usually are the power outlets, makes a man's hair stand on end and has a jolly large WOW factor unless it kill you.. Still a cattle prod or the modified version as a baton is not ideal for most humans but as sure as shit it does get their attention and tends to get their mind off the evil things they were doing and it certainly has them singing interesting songs when you ask them the odd important question. Guaranteed to capture someone's attention. I’m thinking about having one made with an adjustable amperage so I can dial up a suitable level for fun and take it to the top or near the top if I find some useless sod trying to breaking to my home..



windchymes -> RE: Has any Master used a cow prod (3/26/2009 4:34:24 PM)

You guys are just all buzzkill on someone's wank fantasy! [:D]



cjan -> RE: Has any Master used a cow prod (3/26/2009 4:41:27 PM)

Awww, c'mon, windy... we just lubs to shop talk amps vs voltage , insulation , power tools and such. Y'all wimmins lubs to buy shoes. It's a Mars/Venus thang.



MasterRaid -> RE: Has any Master used a cow prod (3/26/2009 10:54:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

Ayep, but in some cases you blokes have a far better idea and a far better appreciation of both Security and Policing than we do. Here in Queensland it took ages to allow the Police to carry capsicum sprays against the loud wailings of the do-gooders and even a louder wailing and gnashing of teeth to allow the use of tassers. Naturally the same people want to remove fire arms from Security Officers, even those moving large cash from business to bank and bank to bank, but are happy to have the same Security Officers to patrol hard and dangerous areas unarmed without even Police back-up. Stun Battons!  Lawdy Lawd! Ohh Mah Gawddd!!!Heavens forbid that out Police be allowed to have those babies and never the Security Officers who are not allowed to have either tassers or capsicum. I get ostracized in some areas of "polite company" because I an armed when I leave home as Federal Law requires me to do so if I feel the need.



Aw c'mon Iron Bear don't you know the Bleeding Heart Mantra??????
Get rid of the violent weapons and the criminals wont have them to use on US! Don't You know how law abiding those criminals are?



IronBear -> RE: Has any Master used a cow prod (3/27/2009 12:09:50 AM)

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Ahhh ayep I sure do mate, I also believe in the mantra; "Ban guns and only outlaws will have guns" too.. Bit of a catch 22 situation I think. Seriously though I do believe in gun ownership as long as it is well regulated for gun club members to use on the range and sporting shooters to use  as the State Law permits (personally I hunt with a compound bow as it does even up the chances a tad), and farmers having guns for vermin control.. never did see any reason for a civilian to have automatic and military arms other than legit collectors.. End result; criminals can always get weapons no matter what regulations are in place.
[/start hijack] ~ Hijack Ended......



SailingBum -> RE: Has any Master used a cow prod (3/27/2009 8:52:35 AM)

a number of years ago they eased the "carry permit" restrictions in my state.  The crime rate actually went down.  The theory goes the person you are attempting to rob might just bust a cap in your ass.

BadOne



MasterRaid -> RE: Has any Master used a cow prod (3/27/2009 10:57:51 AM)

Well I am of the mindset that guns don't kill people I DO! Guns are merely tools and no more dangerous than a man with a butterknife an educated and trained Mind and the will to use it. I will add two things before I end this shameless hijack I started and I apologize for hijacking the thread.

One there is a county in South Dakota (I fail to remember the name I apologize) where at one time it was an County Law (recent one not wild west) that if you wished to reside within said county you MUST show proof of ownership of a firearm. With said proof you are then allowed to carry the firearm (Non-Concealed) upon or near your person. The crime rate for this county was less than 10% violent and only 30 non-violent compared to others in the state of South Dakota.

Two the state of Florida has a very liberal carry concealed policy and before they enacted this policy crimes were very High. Once it had been enacted overall crimes dropped by 70% and with the new modifcations to the Castle Laws to include a persons car (the premise being to stop carjackings) it has dropped even more. Now I know somebody is going to refute My stements but I figured I would still put them out there becuase I really cannot stand rights infringement and with society turning their heads towards our lifestyles to stop them rather than understand them I just wonder when "we are next" along these same lines in the way of banning sex toys and clubs.

END RANT (climbs down of soapbox and apologizes again for hijack.



sailorfrank -> RE: Has any Master used a cow prod (3/27/2009 12:30:18 PM)

     Well I only use cattle prods on my cattle and only to get them moving.  By the by they have thick ass hides, dont know how many of you have butchered them?

  But with their thick hairy skin they yell and jump pretty damn high.   A normal soft skinned human would get a severe burn that would need treatment!

  I have heard the electric stun guns cops use can give you quite a jolt..... so play with them if ya want?   So please play safe and sane and always hurt the one you care for![;)]     But leave no marks or scars okay?!



HeavansKeeper -> RE: Has any Master used a cow prod (3/27/2009 12:51:16 PM)

Master Raid,

There's a dangerous Catch 22 about protecting yourself with a firearm here in Florida. We're a 10-20-Life state. Engaging in a felony with a weapon drawn is a minimum 10 years. Firing it, 20, and shooting (not sure if it's murder or just landing a shot) is life (25+ years).

If you pull a gun on someone, that's aggravated assault, which is a felony. Unless it can be proven that the weapon was used purely for self defense (which happens to be just about impossible for black men unless the assailant is also a black man, just a little sociological racial/legal FYI) then "defending" yourself gets you 10 years time.

It becomes a case of "his word vs. mine" and that's not what you want prison time to ride on.



crazyredhead1957 -> RE: Has any Master used a cow prod (3/27/2009 9:12:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Looking4truemast

I have been wanting to see what a cow prod would feel like. Can a master explain on how he would use it on his slave or sub


my first reaction to reading some of these replies was soooo laughing my butt off until i cried.  But seriously, i would NOT recommend finding out.  i'm a country girl and, long ago, when i was helping someone herd his cattle he accidentally touched me with the prod.  When i could finally talk, i said "Holy f*cking shit, man!!!" and i had never sworn in my life before that.  It really freaked me out.



GotSteel -> RE: Has any Master used a cow prod (3/27/2009 9:33:58 PM)

Back on topic....I'm wondering if the cattle prods that one can buy through bdsm websites have been modified to be weaker. http://home.earthlink.net/~violetwand/toys/prod.html "Modified for BDSM purposes". The ones used on wiredpussy certainly don't seem to be leaving welts or burns on the models. Did wiredpussy modify it in some way or are they just using it on the low setting? http://www.extremerestraints.com/large-shock-prod_472.html That said there's a less intense version that's still rather strong http://www.toystoysonline.com/electric.htm 



Padriag -> RE: Has any Master used a cow prod (3/27/2009 10:53:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

Just so you know, the ones they use on wired pussy, etc, are mostly props, with a little jolt here and there.

Don't believe everything you see on a porn.


What... we can't trust everything we see in porn!?!  What is this world coming too. [image]http://www.collarchat.com/image/s2.gif[/image]

As for cattle prods, my experience with them comes chiefly in the form of chasing each other around with them when I was younger working on a farm.  It hurts to get hit with one, but it wasn't that big of a deal.  Some people have more of a tolerance for it than others.  No one ever suffered any real injury from it, though it could leave marks on bare flesh, like small bruises.



IronBear -> RE: Has any Master used a cow prod (3/28/2009 3:01:52 AM)

Reading all this, it occurs to me that it may be that some brands of cattle prod have a higher amperage then others. In any case just how hard is it to either doing it yourself if experienced or having an experienced person to modify the amperage to a safer level yet still giving an interesting jolt...  Just a thought.

Referring to carrying of weapons, here in Queensland Security can carry (if licensed) either concealed or open a semi automatic like my K&K 9mm or a revolver like my .357 magnum Rugger. There are carried for the purpose of protecting property (as stated in the legislation pertaining armed security, and yet we may only use them to protect human life and providing we believe that our or another’s life is in immanent danger. Sort of crazy but easily got around and defensible in the Coroners Court as I found in the several occasions where I was forced to terminate an idiot who had either shot or stabbed me.  Guns do not kill people. People kill people. Guns are safe provided the young, mentally unstable,  pissed of humans or those with criminal intent can not gain access to the weapons

Anyway back to the subject, seeing that a number of the goodies are either harder to find than hens teeth here or are just not available (due to various State's Legislation where it is illegal to sell the items but legal to own and buy them from overseas), I would be thinking that those really keen on this form of play could find professional in the electrical design and manufacturing areas and have custom made a variety of toys including violet wands etc. It all boils down to the costs involved of course. To be honest, were I sufficiently interested and had the time, I'd be doing a TAFE course to get the required certifications which would allow me to custom make such items for known clients in the BDSM arena..



MasterRaid -> RE: Has any Master used a cow prod (3/29/2009 1:24:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: HeavansKeeper

Master Raid,

There's a dangerous Catch 22 about protecting yourself with a firearm here in Florida. We're a 10-20-Life state. Engaging in a felony with a weapon drawn is a minimum 10 years. Firing it, 20, and shooting (not sure if it's murder or just landing a shot) is life (25+ years).

If you pull a gun on someone, that's aggravated assault, which is a felony. Unless it can be proven that the weapon was used purely for self defense (which happens to be just about impossible for black men unless the assailant is also a black man, just a little sociological racial/legal FYI) then "defending" yourself gets you 10 years time.

It becomes a case of "his word vs. mine" and that's not what you want prison time to ride on.


So as to not hijack the thread:    I do not use cattleprods or other electrical devices other than the violet wand, tens unit, and one or two devices of My own creation. I am brought back to when I had this Older gentleman who wished to train under Myself to become a Dominant and He came to Me telling Me how he had used a stun gun on his submissive's nipples for electric play. I remember My reaction was to ask him if he was insane or just plain stupid. ANYTIME one becomes involved with the more dangerous aspects of BDSM (which inclueds electric play) you risk damage and death. Being an Electrician it does not take too much voltage to damage nerves and stop the heart it only takes a half amp or more than 50 volts crossing the heart and it is instant death. So prods or tazers or even low shock collar bother Me and I always will advise against them.

Now HK I belive you are looking at the laws of Florida incorrectly. Reasearch the Castle Laws (I used to teach the Carry Concealed classes and Home Defense Coarses) the 10-20-30 laws you are referring to are about yes firearm use in the commision of a felony. Not in the use of self defense, especially when it comes to defending the Home or (as the new extention of your car being part of your home) carjackings.

Now before I get into trouble from the CollarME Moderators for taking the thread off its topic I would reccomend we desist the comments on Firearms. Thanks for the talks though its good reading.



sirsholly -> RE: Has any Master used a cow prod (3/29/2009 4:08:47 AM)

if it is used to stop 2000 pounds of raging bull, ya might want to think twice about using it on your partner. Just sayin [sm=dunno.gif]



masterdstar -> RE: Has any Master used a cow prod (3/29/2009 5:27:05 PM)

Hmmm, perhaps at the San Francisco site but not in the NYC or Brooklyn sites.
: -)
Enjoy your wonder-filled day



masterdstar -> RE: Has any Master used a cow prod (3/29/2009 5:31:41 PM)

You might be interested in all the "Stun Gun" VIDS on YOUTUBE for "fun".

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ORIGINAL: SailingBum

It's the amperage that kills not the volt.  Car battery perfect example  only 12 volt 400 amps huge spark.  House 120 volts 15 amps small spark. 

BadOne




Padriag -> RE: Has any Master used a cow prod (3/29/2009 8:39:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

if it is used to stop 2000 pounds of raging bull, ya might want to think twice about using it on your partner. Just sayin [image]http://www.collarchat.com/upfiles/smiley/dunno.gif[/image]

A cattle prod isn't going to even slow down a charging bull... best bet for that is putting a nice solid vehicle between you and said bull.... cause that barbed wire fence ain't gonna stop it either, not if its well and truly pissed at you... say for example if you popped it on the balls with a cattle prod.

Don't ask how I know that.... [image]http://www.collarchat.com/image/s13.gif[/image]

All a cattle prod is good for is getting cattle to move in a particular direction, provides a little motivation.  A bull whip cracked in the air will work just as well.  The shock isn't really any worse than an electric fence... which by the way you ought to avoid if your shorts happen to be wet from swimming.

Don't ask how I know that either... [image]http://www.collarchat.com/image/s3.gif[/image]

I had such a misspent youth.



sirsholly -> RE: Has any Master used a cow prod (3/30/2009 2:25:56 AM)

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A cattle prod isn't going to even slow down a charging bull... best bet for that is putting a nice solid vehicle between you and said bull.... cause that barbed wire fence ain't gonna stop it either, not if its well and truly pissed at you... say for example if you popped it on the balls with a cattle prod.

Don't ask how I know that....


oh lordie...you didn't?!!




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