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Binaural Brainwave technology - 3/26/2009 3:25:57 AM

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wow - talk about a new way to 'zone'

http://i-doser.com/

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RE: Binaural Brainwave technology - 3/26/2009 5:56:17 AM

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If it works, it would be a great way for insomniacs to fall asleep. Lie in bed, headphones on and there you are. But I remember cds that were supposed to do that, and cassettes. So I'm doubtful of how effective it really is, beyond the placebo effect.

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RE: Binaural Brainwave technology - 3/27/2009 2:22:18 PM

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I listened to the samples they offered and wasn't impressed with the quality of the material. Without spending a whole lot of time researching how they go about assembling their product, I can make no judgement as to why the samples were unimpressive to me. Based upon my experiences with them, I would not be willing to subscribe or purchase their product. Having stated that I will concede that what I call unimpressive for myself may give another outstanding results; it's all subjective and based upon an individual's preferences.

As with anything else, there are purveyors of good quality binaural brainwave technologies and some really awful stuff, based strictly upon my own experiences. I would rate i-Doser's products to be just a bit below average for its benefit to me. That's not to say it doesn't suit another consumer's needs perfectly. i-Doser's product may be perfect to others. Like I stated before, it's subject to an individual's tastes and response behaviors.

A good starting off point for those interested in this type of product can be found by reading this Wikipedia article. It contains sample files of two different binaural beat frequencies so everyone can experience that facet for themselves. For me, listening to "binbeat sample 2" does wonders for me in alleviating a possible dibilitating migraine episode when the auras strike.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_beats

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RE: Binaural Brainwave technology - 3/27/2009 3:57:16 PM

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I listened to the samples they offered and wasn't impressed with the quality of the material. Without spending a whole lot of time researching how they go about assembling their product, I can make no judgement as to why the samples were unimpressive to me. Based upon my experiences with them, I would not be willing to subscribe or purchase their product. Having stated that I will concede that what I call unimpressive for myself may give another outstanding results; it's all subjective and based upon an individual's preferences.

As with anything else, there are purveyors of good quality binaural brainwave technologies and some really awful stuff, based strictly upon my own experiences. I would rate i-Doser's products to be just a bit below average for its benefit to me. That's not to say it doesn't suit another consumer's needs perfectly. i-Doser's product may be perfect to others. Like I stated before, it's subject to an individual's tastes and response behaviors.

A good starting off point for those interested in this type of product can be found by reading this Wikipedia article. It contains sample files of two different binaural beat frequencies so everyone can experience that facet for themselves. For me, listening to "binbeat sample 2" does wonders for me in alleviating a possible dibilitating migraine episode when the auras strike.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_beats

There was discussion on another website about those sounds being used to get high so sound quality may not even be an issue.

As a fellow (?) sufferer of migraine with aura - it never occurred to me that sound could be used in that fashion. I always head aWAY from noise - not to it :)

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RE: Binaural Brainwave technology - 3/27/2009 5:12:36 PM

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:-)

True enough. If the purpose is to get high then it may not matter how smoothly, or not, the individual layers are mixed.

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As to my using these as a migraine suppressant, it's an experiment in trying to eliminate the stress triggers that help to bring on an attack. There's not much I can do about the physiological triggers but if I can reduce or eliminate one, then it's a step towards controlling my complex migraines.

Like you, if I'm in the middle of a migraine attack, I'm definitely avoiding any sound as best as I can. It's when I'm pre-migrainous and experiencing my precursors that I listen to the beats, as well as avoiding other triggers. Since I'm also making other changes to my activities to help thwart an attack, I can't be sure about how effective listening to the beats alone truly is. I'm guessing that since adopting these changes, I've been able to bring down the occurrence of my debilitating attacks by about 25%.

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RE: Binaural Brainwave technology - 3/27/2009 5:59:03 PM

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you can add another approach to your list: a bag of ice on the back of your neck when things start getting 'thumpy'. It constricts the blood vessels and reduces the pulsations.

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RE: Binaural Brainwave technology - 3/28/2009 9:14:39 AM

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Thanks for the idea but in my case that exacerbates my problem. Unfortunately, blood vessel constriction is what causes my complex migraines to worsen with stroke-like symptoms. Anything I can do to prevent constriction and cause dilation will stop the symptoms from becoming so bad as to warrant a stay at the local hospital.

Although there's no specific scientific evidence to support the conclusion that meditative, bio-feedback, and/or binaural audio technology relaxes blood vessels in the brain (that I've been able to find), three neurologists did suggest I try such therapies as they wouldn't hurt, based upon their experiences with anecdotal evidence. Given my current limited finances, listening to binaural beats or meditation files that incorporate binaural beats is what I can afford, so it's the first thing I've been trying, with a small amount of success.

I apologize if it seems I've monopolized this discussion thread; it wasn't my intent. To get back more inline with the topic, binaural brainwave tech does work in my case, in a limited way. At the very least it helps to relax my mind if it is so cluttered with many thoughts so loud and confusing that I can't focus.

I would like to caution those who attempt to use this tech to not do so while operating machinery or are currently involved in activities that require you to remain sharp and observant. While this tech may not work for everyone in bringing about states of altered minds, it has the potential to do so. My advice for anyone curious about trying it is to look for sample files on the internet and listen to them while at home in a situation where if you do happen to experience a relaxed or mind altering situation, you're not putting yourself or others in physical harm.

I also strongly suggest you speak with your health care provider first if you are taking brain chemistry altering medications or have a history of epilepsy or seizures.

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RE: Binaural Brainwave technology - 3/28/2009 10:10:07 AM

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I went to a workshop once. They had Peruvian Whistling vessels.
Something about the harmony of them put me into some kind of zone - sigh...
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RE: Binaural Brainwave technology - 3/28/2009 10:54:19 AM

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Thanks for sharing that link sunshine. I had not heard of Peruvian whistling vessels before and after reading that page I went looking for more info.

Joe Townend explains on one of his pages how those whistles work and it appears they are ancient binaural beat generators. He includes a link to another article that shows there seems to have been and currently are scientific studies observing how binaural beats interact with the human brain. Joe also has a link to a sample recording (RealPlayer needed) of a Peruvian whistling vessel. After listening to it I can see how they might create a mind altering mood, particularly if more then one whistle is being played concurrently.

I have not done any further research into any of the scientific studies mentioned in the secondary article, so I cannot vouch for their authenticity. But it is interesting, to me anyway, that attempts are being made into understanding how binaural brainwave tech can influence how a brain works and functions.

* Joe Townend's New Universe Music's page: http://www.new-universe.com/vessels/vessels.html

* sample of Joe Townend's Peruvian whistling vessel recording: http://www.new-universe.com/ra/vessels_drum.ram

* The International Association for New Science's page, "Inducing Altered States of Consciousness with Binaural Beat Technology": http://web-us.com/inducing.htm

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RE: Binaural Brainwave technology - 3/28/2009 10:59:09 AM

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RE: Binaural Brainwave technology - 3/31/2009 5:15:29 AM

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Interesting articles, thanks Sappa, MsFlutter and Sunny! I've used sound and light machines with great success but like you mention, Sappa, there are good ones, not so good ones and flat out cheap and crappy ones. It all depends on which one works for you.

(If not familiar with sound and light machines, they combine the binaural beats with flashing coloured LED's to change your brain waves. I'm showing my geekiness again, huh?)

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