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RE: what not to do - 3/31/2009 6:24:54 PM   
ElanSubdued


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submalewhore,

What not to do?  Well, the advice you've been given already is pretty good.

- Type properly (in proper case and with proper grammar, and type words in full... no "u" instead of "you", etc.).

- Check your spelling.

- Read the entire profile before responding and do an honest assessment of whether you fit what the person is looking for.  There's really no point in replying to someone who explicitly states criteria you don't fit.

- When you reply, explain what interested you about the person.  Hopefully you've got more to say than "you're pictures are hot" because, as in the vanilla world, such an approach doesn't usually work and it especially won't work around here.

- Avoid falling into discussing a bunch of fetish stuff.  Anyone on here already knows you're kinky simply because you are here.  If a domme becomes interested in you, she will ask when this is important to her.

- Behave in a courteous, intelligent manner.  Be responsive, but don't pour it on with a bunch of "yes Goddess", "I live to serve you Mistress", and this kind of muck.  Use plain courtesy.  (i.e. please, thank you, etc. work well.)  Basically, just be yourself and show what makes you an engaging person inside and out.

Regarding your screen name and profile... I read your profile and this was my reaction:

- Most dommes I know don't want to re-make a boy.  They want someone who already has an idea of who he is and who brings something to the table.  This doesn't mean you have to be the most accomplished submissive on the planet.  Rather, people who take initiative and who are curious enough that they have some hobbies and have educated themselves tend to stand out.  Again, I'm not saying you have to be a scholar, but perhaps you've taken a course on interior design, the history of a certain country, the rules of a sport, or dog grooming.  Volunteer work is something else that shows your character.  Whatever it is you're passionate about and that reveals some tidbits about you, this is what I'd share.  Along these same lines, instead of talking about what your domme can do for you, I suggest sharing some of the things a domme might find interesting and/or useful about you.  Delete the part where you wrote:  "i am looking for a woman to dominate me and tell me what to do".  This is called a "do me" line and it is one of the most generic and unattractive things you can possibly write.  There are thousands, if not millions, of submissives on this site using similar phrases.

- Regarding your screen name:  personally, I'd change it (which might mean you have to create a new account).  There's nothing overtly bad about submalewhore, but it makes you appear focused on fetishes.  Certainly, you're looking to make a connection with a dominant woman, however, I encourage you to focus on the entire woman and not just her BDSM proclivities.  With this in mind, reciprocally, I'd choose a screen name that is more reflective of you as an entire person and not just you the submissive.

By the way, I agree with Peon.  I like your avatar picture a lot.  It's a nice side shot of you that is relaxed and very attractive.  Step up your text to this same level and you'll have the girls... er, ah... I mean *women* lining up. :-)

Welcome to the Crazy Train submalewhore!

Elan.

< Message edited by ElanSubdued -- 3/31/2009 6:45:53 PM >

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RE: what not to do - 3/31/2009 6:45:15 PM   
submalewhore


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yay, constructive criticism!! i was acutely considering changing my name, once i figured out this site is not 100% kinky sex (go figure). I'll go and make a new, more in-depth profile when i have time, or at lest change my profile into something more appropriate. spelling is going to be a problem though, i acutely HAVE been using spell check, surprise surprise

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RE: what not to do - 3/31/2009 6:51:09 PM   
ElanSubdued


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submalewhore,

quote:

yay, constructive criticism!! i was acutely considering changing my name, once i figured out this site is not 100% kinky sex (go figure). I'll go and make a new, more in-depth profile when i have time, or at lest change my profile into something more appropriate. spelling is going to be a problem though, i acutely HAVE been using spell check, surprise surprise


You've got a great sense of humour (demonstrated already in a few places in this thread) and an open, communicative, playful style.  This will *definitely* catch attention (in a good way).

Once again, welcome aboard.

E.

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RE: what not to do - 3/31/2009 6:52:58 PM   
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Don't make any mention of sex (from "sexual service" to fetishes)
Don't show any sign of weakness or indecisiveness
Don't make any reference to being unemployed, broke, lacking direction, or living with your parents
Don't make any reference to any body part (hers or yours- yes, even eyes are off-limits)
Don't even THINK about sex or satisfying your fetishes
Don't refer to her as Mistress, Ma'am, Lady, etc., unless it is specifically demanded in her profile
Did I mention that you shouldn't bring up sex?


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RE: what not to do - 3/31/2009 7:06:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: OneMoreWaste

*snip*
Don't make any reference to being unemployed, broke, lacking direction, or living with your parents
*snip*


While I get what is being said here, I do find it interesting how some things are very universal (no photos of your cock, read profile, etc) and how other things might not matter one way or another to someone.  My boy was living in his parents basement, living off hot pockets and beer and playing WOW whenever he wasn't working...on the surface that's a 'pass', right?.  However, he was also just back from his 2nd tour in Iraq and 4 years overseas when he wasn't deployed.  While he could have technically afforded to live on his own, he parents had really missed him and all but beg for him to stay since they hadn't seen him more than once or twice in all that time with very infrequent phone calls.  The point is, somethings aren't as universal as they might seem on the surface.  As it stands now I am supporting him while he is finishing school, again, not exactly out of the 'Mistress Manual'...when the right match is the right match some of the incidentals are meaningless.   


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RE: what not to do - 3/31/2009 7:33:37 PM   
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Don't name yourself a submalewhore.
http://www.collarchat.com/m_237505/mpage_1/tm.htm.
http://www.collarchat.com/m_652856/mpage_1/key_submissive%252Cadvice/tm.htm#652856.

Use the search function.   Find local groups, and join.    M

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RE: what not to do - 3/31/2009 7:39:43 PM   
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~fast reply~

Don't lie.   Be honest about yourself and what you are looking for.  If you don't know, or aren't sure, say so.
Don't lead anyone on.  If you're not feeling it, don't use a woman as a placeholder.  Dominant women have feelings too.
Listen to her talk, and engage her in conversations that have nothing to do with you.
Find out what she wants, and if it it meshes with what you can give.



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RE: what not to do - 3/31/2009 8:15:10 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: submalewhore

hello all!
im new to all this, and before i start talking to people, i would love to know what not to do.
so my question is, what realy bugs you, what things should i avoid at all costs?

thank u for your time.



Edited to change the question: "What should I strive for at all costs?"

Insist on a reciprocal  relationship.
 
One in which you get as much as you give.

< Message edited by dreamerdreaming -- 3/31/2009 8:17:39 PM >


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RE: what not to do - 3/31/2009 8:22:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming
Edited to change the question: "What should I strive for at all costs?"
Insist on a reciprocal  relationship.
 
One in which you get as much as you give.
Really?    How is that measured?  Where does dominance and submission come in, if that is a concern/desire?      M

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RE: what not to do - 3/31/2009 8:25:41 PM   
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I can see their point; it's the same in any relationship, kink or not.  If there is a lack of balance, one of the parties will definitely 'feel' it and it can be very draining (been there).  As for how it is 'measured', that is very subjective to the couple.  

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RE: what not to do - 3/31/2009 8:31:44 PM   
FullfigRIMAAM1


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It's certainly understandable that one ought not settle for any relationship where one's needs/desires aren't met.    However, the very last attitude a submissive boy ought to come with is "I insist on getting as much as I give."   
Of course he should find groups or dominants who offer what he desires, or find switches or tops who don't care for dominance/authority or control much.   

Naturally, I have done relationships where he gets what he wants, and I get what I want, but never because he insisted on anything.   He was submissive and gave of himself, which made me happy, imaginative, and horny, so he got what he wanted.   M

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RE: what not to do - 3/31/2009 8:39:50 PM   
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Just beware of domina's asking you if you would like some candy...

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RE: what not to do - 3/31/2009 8:42:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

Just beware of domina's asking you if you would like some candy...


*quickly hides the Reese's behind her back*


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RE: what not to do - 3/31/2009 8:44:18 PM   
Lockit


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Yes... we don't give up chocolate... that's how you can tell the true domina's... if they offer chocolate... run... hard candy... well you may have the real deal! hehe

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RE: what not to do - 3/31/2009 8:49:14 PM   
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I was going to originally write 'Sugar Daddy'...it just seemed so...dirrrty.... 

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RE: what not to do - 3/31/2009 8:51:26 PM   
Lockit


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LOL...

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RE: what not to do - 3/31/2009 9:30:18 PM   
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*nods sagely* Candy works every time. I keep a box of Boykin Treats in my pocket for just that reason.

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RE: what not to do - 3/31/2009 10:00:01 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

*nods sagely* Candy works every time. I keep a box of Boykin Treats in my pocket for just that reason.


*perks his ears and wags his tail*

Treats?


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RE: what not to do - 3/31/2009 10:03:39 PM   
Lockit


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lol...

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RE: what not to do - 3/31/2009 10:08:03 PM   
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hey, i heard candy, who has candy?? dose it involve an unmarked van and unknown individuals? because if it dose im IN!!!!!

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