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OLDER subs - 4/1/2009 2:34:05 AM   
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i saw the post 18-25 yr old subs, but i don't want to look like i'm trying to hijack it.....so a new post.  Just out of curiosity, why would a much younger Dominant want a much older sub/slave, say 15-20 years older?  i've seen that happen frequently, and older doesn't always mean more experience or training either, depending on how long she's been in the lifestyle.
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RE: OLDER subs - 4/1/2009 4:44:18 AM   
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having had some younger doms, say 10 to 15 years younger, they seemed to enjoy the flip flop of control over someone whom they should be showing respect to due to age. I am not positive but that was the feeling I received from them. We didn't dwell on the age thing much. I also believe that the ratio of subs to doms is such that there are less of us, so they don't mind older. It all basically comes down chemistry also. You either have it or your don't.

Oh and my personal preference is someone close with whom I have a deep connection. It's a tad easier when they are close to your own age, I have found, but the age isn't the most important thing

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RE: OLDER subs - 4/1/2009 4:49:41 AM   
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I think Benjamin Franklin answered this:
" then I repeat my former Advice, that in all your Amours you should prefer old Women to young ones. You call this a Paradox, and demand my Reasons. They are these:

1. Because as they have more Knowledge of the World and their Minds are better stor'd with Observations, their Conversation is more improving and more lasting agreable.

2. Because when Women cease to be handsome, they study to be good. To maintain their Influence over Men, they supply the Diminution of Beauty by an Augmentation of Utility. They learn to do 1000 Servies small and great, and are the most tender and useful of all Friends when you are sick. Thus they continue amiable. And hence there is hardly such a thing to be found as an old Woman who is not a good Woman.

3. Because there is no hazard of Children, which irregularly produc'd may be attended with much inconvenience.

4. Because thro' more Experience, they are more prudent and discreet in conducting an Intrigue to prevent Suspicion. The Commerce with them is therefore safer with regard to your Reputation. And with regard to theirs, if the Affair should happen to be known, considerate People might be rather inclin'd to excuse an old Woman who would kindly take care of a young Man, form his Manners by her good Counsels, and prevent his ruining his Health and Fortune among mercenary Prostitutes.

5. Because in every Animal that walks upright, the Deficiency of the Fluids that fill the Muscles appears first in the highest Part: The Face first grows lank and wrinkled; then the Neck; then the Breast and Arms; the lower Parts continuing to the last as plump as ever: So that covering all above with a Basket, and regarding only what is below the Girdle, it is impossible of two Women to know an old from a young one. And as in the dark all Cats are grey, the Pleasure of corporal Enjoyment with an old Woman is at least equal, and frequently superior, every Knack being by Practice capable of improvement.

6. Because the Sin is less. The debauching a Virgin may be her Ruin, and make her for Life unhappy.

7. Because the Compunction is less. The having made a young girl miserable may give you bitter Reflections; none of which can attend the making an old Woman happy.

8thly and Lastly They are so grateful!!"


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RE: OLDER subs - 4/1/2009 4:56:47 AM   
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i think some guys are into older women just because they are, its not a kink perse, its just they prefer them for whatever reason.

but i asked a 24 year old about that.  he said he didnt much care about the age difference, it was all about who the woman was and how they came across.  he liked my profile and thought i sounded fun and worth chatting up.

personally i find this whole age thing really 'old' -

a friend on here has a much younger Master and theyre really happy.  if the M in question held back on age difference then they wouldnt be having the fun and happyness theyre having right now.

frankly, i dont understand what the big deal is.

but i do think its society gone wrong.  all this hype about being over 30 and no longer 'it'.  how sad is that!  considering that the population is getting older and older now and the middle aged margin keeps getting pushed back and back, that the 30's are the new 20's and the 40's are the new 30's and actually who gives a fuck! - but people do and it irritates the hell out of me, not sure why.

sorry, not having a pop at you OP, just in general.

when i see the much older population abused by the government and by society in general for being 'old' i get the hives.  age is a number on youre birth cert., thats it, it shouldnt be a measure of a persons value to society and yet it is and its a trend that needs to stop, but it wont.

whats really bad is that the younger generations are growing up with no respect or regard for their much older counterparts, they see them as a waste of space - i actually hate this whole issue, its shallow and pathetic.

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RE: OLDER subs - 4/1/2009 5:09:06 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: crazyredhead1957

i saw the post 18-25 yr old subs, but i don't want to look like i'm trying to hijack it.....so a new post.  Just out of curiosity, why would a much younger Dominant want a much older sub/slave, say 15-20 years older?  i've seen that happen frequently, and older doesn't always mean more experience or training either, depending on how long she's been in the lifestyle.


To a degree I think you answered your own question-sometimes there's the perception that the older the sub the more experience they have but there are lots fo reasons this isn't always the case. Sometimes I think it could be about humilaition even, if it's true that W/we respect O/our elders because they have more experience etc. then it could be that having a sub. who's older may be seen as dominating/controling a figure of authority.

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RE: OLDER subs - 4/1/2009 1:02:16 PM   
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Thank Y/you all for Y/your wonderful replies.  What Y/you all said i suspected was true, but i was just checking.  *smiles*

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RE: OLDER subs - 4/1/2009 1:05:09 PM   
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It's also possible that it's just as much a means for some of working out childhood issues as it is when a younger female chooses an older male to make up for an absentee father. Not that this is always, or even mostly, the case. But sometimes it is.

People do all kinds of things for all kinds of reasons.


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RE: OLDER subs - 4/1/2009 4:05:31 PM   
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Maybe he likes the thought of fucking his mother?  shrug

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RE: OLDER subs - 4/1/2009 9:24:25 PM   
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had to look this up... but its a piece by Andy Rooney.  perhaps your answer might lie within... lol

After age 40--a man's view of a woman! Could also apply to over
50, 60, and 70.

Here is a piece written by Andy Rooney - CBS 60 Minutes.)

As I grow in age, I value women who are over 40 most of all. Here
are just a few reasons why:

A woman over 40 will not lay next to you in bed and ask, "What are you thinking?" She doesn't care what you think. If a woman over 40 doesn't want to watch the game, she doesn't sit around
whining about it. She does something she wants to do. And, it's usually
something more interesting.


A woman over 40 knows herself well enough to be assured in who
she is, what she is, what she wants and from whom. Few women past the age
of 40 give a damn what you might think about her or what she's doing.

Women over 40 are dignified. They seldom have a screaming match
with you at the opera or in the middle of an expensive restaurant. Of
course, if you deserve it, they won't hesitate to shoot you, if they think
they can get away with it.

Older women are generous with praise, often undeserved.
They know what it's like to be unappreciated.

A woman over 40 has the self-assurance to introduce you to her women friends. A younger
woman with a man will often ignore even her best friend because she doesn't
trust the guy with other women. Women over 40 couldn't care less if you're attr acted to her
friends because she knows her friends won't betray her.

Women get psychic as they age. You never have to confess your
sins to a woman over 40. They always know. A woman over 40 looks good
wearing bright red lipstick. This is not true of younger women or drag queens.

Once you get past a wrinkle or two, a woman over 40 is far sexier
than her younger counterpart. Older women are forthright and honest.
They'll tell you right off if you are a jerk if you are acting like one! You
don't ever have to wonder where you stand with her.

Yes, we praise women over 40 for a multitude of reasons.
Unfortunately, it's not reciprocal. For every stunning, smart,
well-coiffed hot woman of 40+, there is a bald, paunchy relic in
yellow pants and velcro runners making a fool of himself with some 18-year-old waitress.

Ladies, I apologize.
For all those men who say, "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free."

Here's an update for you. Nowadays 80% of women are against marriage, why? Because women realize it's not worth buying an entire pig, just to get a little sausage.

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RE: OLDER subs - 4/1/2009 11:22:03 PM   
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Good ole andy just another moronic gasbag.

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RE: OLDER subs - 4/2/2009 12:59:12 AM   
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Love older subs.. know what they want..

As I always say.. will trade two 20 year olds sub girls for one 40 year old one. lol...

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RE: OLDER subs - 4/2/2009 2:32:02 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DominantlyCaring

Love older subs.. know what they want..

As I always say.. will trade two 20 year olds sub girls for one 40 year old one. lol...

Sir CK


A joke I posted in the humor section a while back:

A husband worte the following letter for his wife and left it on the dining room table:

"To My Dear Wife,
You will surely understand that I have certain needs that you, being 54 years old, can no longer satisfy.  I am very happy with you and I value you as a good wife.  Therefore, after reading this letter, I hope you will not wrongly interpret the fact that I will be spending the evening with my 18-year-old secretary at the Comfort Inn Hotel.  Please don't be upset.  I shall be back home before midnight"

When the man came home late that night he found the following letter on the dining room table:

"To My Dear Husband,
I received your letter and thank you for you honesty about my being 54 years old.  I would like to take this opportunity to remind you that you are also 54 years old.  As you know, I am a mathematics professor at our local college.  I would like to inform you that while you read this, I will be at the Ritz Carlton with Michael, one of my students, who is also the assistant tennis coach.  He is young, virile, and like your secretary is 18 years old.  As a succesful businessman with an excellent knowledge of math, you will understand that we are in the same situation, although with one small difference; 18 goes into 54 a lot more times than 54 goes into 18.  Therefore I will not be home until sometime tomorrow."



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RE: OLDER subs - 4/2/2009 2:51:32 AM   
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RE: OLDER subs - 4/2/2009 4:47:58 AM   
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For my girl and I, we just fit spiritually and, for us, that is what is important for our dynamic. We are called to be together. She is 17 years my senior. she says that I am much older in spirit and that is what she is drawn to.

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RE: OLDER subs - 4/2/2009 5:32:51 AM   
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Generally by lower age limit is 30 and no top limit. Compatibility is more important than age. 

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RE: OLDER subs - 4/2/2009 7:11:04 AM   
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lol... lemme guess... 18

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RE: OLDER subs - 4/3/2009 2:49:03 AM   
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My Pet is 15 years my senior. I enjoy it. I've had a lot of trouble finding women my age who understood that they would not be my everything in life. The notion that other things in life entertain me seemed to piss off every female my age, kinky or otherwise. (I know there are exceptions, but none for me =P).

She is mature and independent. I consider independence an important part of submission. I need to know My Pet has the means and wherewithal to leave me should she need to. Its how I justify the depth of servitude I encourage and train. Maturity and knowing what she wants was not important. She was a complete amateur to this lifestyle when we started (and I was quite new, very little experience). Growing together has been wonderful.

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i saw the post 18-25 yr old subs, but i don't want to look like i'm trying to hijack it.....so a new post. Just out of curiosity, why would a much younger Dominant want a much older sub/slave, say 15-20 years older? i've seen that happen frequently, and older doesn't always mean more experience or training either, depending on how long she's been in the lifestyle.



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RE: OLDER subs - 4/3/2009 4:39:01 AM   
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quote:

A joke I posted in the humor section a while back:


I LOVE THAT JOKE!!!!! LOL Being 54 myself, I just can relate! LOL

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RE: OLDER subs - 4/3/2009 4:41:37 AM   
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I can't speak for 15 years older
But I was 18 when I met my first slave and she was 26
And she knew some things I had no idea about
Like pretty much everything
(Remember, this was way before Gore invented the internet, like the, Gasp, eighties.)
Basically, she taught me how to be a Master...
which could not have happened had she been 18
She wouldn't have had the experience to pass on
We would have been a classic case of the blind leading the lobotomized

So I, and every woman who has served me since, owe her a tremendous amount of gratitude.

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RE: OLDER subs - 4/3/2009 3:24:29 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: eyesopened

quote:

ORIGINAL: DominantlyCaring

Love older subs.. know what they want..

As I always say.. will trade two 20 year olds sub girls for one 40 year old one. lol...

Sir CK


A joke I posted in the humor section a while back:

A husband worte the following letter for his wife and left it on the dining room table:

"To My Dear Wife,
You will surely understand that I have certain needs that you, being 54 years old, can no longer satisfy.  I am very happy with you and I value you as a good wife.  Therefore, after reading this letter, I hope you will not wrongly interpret the fact that I will be spending the evening with my 18-year-old secretary at the Comfort Inn Hotel.  Please don't be upset.  I shall be back home before midnight"

When the man came home late that night he found the following letter on the dining room table:

"To My Dear Husband,
I received your letter and thank you for you honesty about my being 54 years old.  I would like to take this opportunity to remind you that you are also 54 years old.  As you know, I am a mathematics professor at our local college.  I would like to inform you that while you read this, I will be at the Ritz Carlton with Michael, one of my students, who is also the assistant tennis coach.  He is young, virile, and like your secretary is 18 years old.  As a succesful businessman with an excellent knowledge of math, you will understand that we are in the same situation, although with one small difference; 18 goes into 54 a lot more times than 54 goes into 18.  Therefore I will not be home until sometime tomorrow."




 That was effin' hilarious!!

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