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SailingBum -> RE: Torn About Fluid Transfer (4/5/2009 8:19:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: antipode

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less beer and more weed < no health downside so far anywho>


You wish - today's weed is highly addictive, as they are finding out in the countries where it has been legalized, and where its quality is monitored. I have seen it from up close - had a sub who had been smoking from age 15, who couldn't stop, and eventually (I kicked her out) needed several years of therapy and medication to kick the habit.



No I know! Dunno where you get your info from, but the research I've done shows it's not.  I happen to live 15 mins away from canada where it is legal as least in Windsor, and prolly Ontario which is bigger than most countries.  The facts just don't bear out your statement.  Btw medical weed is now legal in the state where I live.

Just because you made a ill advised choice.  Does not mean everyone does.

BadOne




Vanityfull -> RE: Torn About Fluid Transfer (4/5/2009 11:33:28 PM)

i have met a few pot addicts, the substance itself i doubt to have any real physical addictiveness but it gives a high, which can be abused to the point of adiction, i personally beleive its one if not the least addictive drug out there, but with anything there is an ability to become addicted with over indulgance, i donno if it is legal anywhere in canada i havnt heard anything of it being so out east in windsor or anything, but i assume you do your homework, its illegal but generally ignored by cops in BC and Saskatchewan in my exp.




SailingBum -> RE: Torn About Fluid Transfer (4/6/2009 10:48:41 AM)

Yep you can get addicted to lots of things drugs,beer, sugar, smokes, caffeine, chocolate.  This list is endless.   I said health risk.  Any moron can become addicted to something, abuse it and suffer health risks. 

BadOne




MissEnchanted -> RE: Torn About Fluid Transfer (4/6/2009 11:57:42 AM)

Just have them test before you engage.

I have subs bring me their test as a present. No test: No play.

And yes: I do miss not having to worry about STDS and HIV is booming with the over 45 crowd; so testing is mandatory in my world.

I sent you a cmail, did you see it?

ME





CallaFirestormBW -> RE: Torn About Fluid Transfer (4/6/2009 12:07:27 PM)

I think it's possible to enjoy yourself and not deal with excessive risk. Maybe it's just the question of what is "excessive risk"... My definition of "excessive risk" fits in the column of people who ride motorcycles without helmets. When I was a paramedic, we called folks who would ride without a helmet "melon-heads", because we figured we'd find them one of these days splattered on the pavement like a cantaloupe. Now I'll ride in my pants and a light top during the summer, but I'll always have at least a 1/2 helmet on. To me, riding without a helmet is asking to become a statistic. I think it's similar with things like multiple partners and STDs.

I guess that my question is "Why be bitter about a choice you're making for yourself?" As a corrolary, I guess I'd ask "If this isn't making me happy, then why am I still obsessing about it and doing it that way?"

In the end, everything we do is about choices. Selecting one path means, in many cases, not being able to go another way. For all the philosophical discussion about non-duality, choice still boils down, for the most part, to "this or that". If you're making a choice that is healthy and productive for you, the sense of resentment is dichotomous. If you resent, then perhaps it is because you feel there should be an option between completely cutting these opportunities and people out of your life -- and there are, but they will require compromise in one manner or another.

Condom compacts and bodily-fluid-restricted relationships are an option that allow some activities to be participated in outside of absolute abstinence, however, the trade-off is that even condom compacts and body-fluid exclusivity may not be completely safe. A condom can break, and a lover can exceed the boundaries of a body-fluid agreement and not say anything until illness presses the issue. That being said, I'm STD/communicable disease free after poly/open sexual activity spanning 30 years (and that's despite having a compromised immune system from being born with an immune/autoimmune failure). Sometimes, that means having to say "no" to an experience... but resenting making a healthy choice just doesn't seem productive to me.






MissEnchanted -> RE: Torn About Fluid Transfer (4/6/2009 1:11:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SailingBum

Great Job on the HIV stats dude.  What lots of folk fail to remember is the HIV rates are low now is due to the scare in the 80's.  In the 70's and 80's most ppl didnt think twice about being with a different partner literally every weekend.  Until HIV came along.

BadOne


what?
http://www.avert.org/worldstats.htm

HIV is a very high risk!




SailingBum -> RE: Torn About Fluid Transfer (4/6/2009 3:43:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MissEnchanted

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ORIGINAL: SailingBum

Great Job on the HIV stats dude.  What lots of folk fail to remember is the HIV rates are low now is due to the scare in the 80's.  In the 70's and 80's most ppl didnt think twice about being with a different partner literally every weekend.  Until HIV came along.

BadOne



what?
http://www.avert.org/worldstats.htm

HIV is a very high risk!



My Bad.  I meant in the US.  Not Africa where the rate doubles every second or so. <kidding<  It is rampant there.

BadOne




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