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UPSG -> RE: No need to hijack (4/5/2009 11:17:07 AM)
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ORIGINAL: allyC
(FR) If someone wants to kill another person, they'll do it. Enough people are stabbed, strangled, or beaten to death every year to prove it. An automobile is a two ton weapon. It kills and injures so many people a year it is absolutely ridiculous and yet 16 year olds can just jump behind the wheel after a short class and test and whee! They're off! Where is the public outcry about vehicles? Should we ban them too 'cause let's face it - they kill a LOT more people than guns do due to careless use. The right to bear arms is one that is expected to already exist for Americans. The constitution states that it shall not be infringed. It is pretty simple to me. Our forefathers understood how tyranny and oppression worked. They lived through it. They decided that they didn't want to form a nation that would be ripe for that sort of thing and so they provided that the right to bear arms should not be infringed.. If guns are made illegal, than only outlaws will have guns with the exception of the military and law enforcement but strangely enough - being in the military or being a law enforcement officer doesn't magically make you a good person either. So why should I, as a law abiding citizen, allow my country to render me defenseless against my government? Against my law enforcement officers? News flash - cops and soldiers commit crimes too. I agree that as a self defense weapon in the home, a shotgun is your best bet. But what about when I am grocery shopping and walking to my car? I've been robbed in that kind of situation... funny thing. I was robbed by a guy who bought his gun illegally and used it to take what belonged to me (and at that point, I feared for my life). Never again will I not at least have the opportunity to defend myself when I believe my life is in danger. It took me being in a life threatening situation three times before I realized that the guns weren't evil - the people using them were (and yup, one of 'em was a cop) Some of the worst crime rates in this country exist in states and cities with the strictest gun control laws. If you render people defenseless, they become easy prey, period. I'd rather not be. Well wishes, Cav's ally
I don't think our "forefathers" were up against medium machine guns. (e.g. M60's)
People can kill with knives (terrible wounds too), you are right and I won't disagree. But the weaponry you have does make a significant tactical difference. A military fire team will have a SAW (Squad Automatic Weapon) and a M203 (M16 capable of firing grenades with extreme accuracy). The carnage a fire team can cause entering a building (say... a high school) is a lot more than 4 or 5 people armed with butcher knives can cause.
That said, I don't buy into the idea you should worry about an attacker only taking your pistol away from you (one of 59's points). Yeah, if I'm stuck out in the woods with a serial killer I'll take my chances holding a pistol. Sure, there's a chance I could be disarmed, but there's also a chance I won't. I'll go with the more optimistic prediction. Plus, I know in the central city you can call the cops (police station could be right across the street), and unless you say someone has a gun it could still take 30 minutes to over an hour for a squad car to respond (they're over worked with other calls). From what I've seen, usually (not always) police arrive to tape off the scene of a violent crime. In other words, they tend to come after the fact.
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