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Turkey Dom.. - 4/4/2009 5:03:48 PM   
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This other Dom from Turkey, that I was talking to, and things went quite nice a while.. nothing special..
We had agreed to look for others and play on cam. Nothing special there either,all fine with me.
Then we got answer from a woman, he got eager, and she said no to just play, but he ORDERED me to convince her to play with us!
And before that, he had wrote her a mail, where he asked her, if she was owned online or in real life!
I told him as I tell you that it is no reason to ask that, when he very well knew we were only looking for playdates.
He said to figure out,if she was owned or not. That is strange,because you dont ask like that,then you just ask if they are owned or not. But I happen to know he always ask that or did ask that to me too, before we agreed together! and BEFORE we agreed I was the only one owned! then he was talking about others,to own,that way,until we got the limits under control!!!
Do you think he has broken our agreement now?
What did he do,when I confronted him with it. He said to me,that I ask things over and over again,the same. (it happened once or twice,but ONLY,when I felt I didnt got proper answers to serious questions about HIM, which he then got angry over and I had to drag out of him)
it was things like,where he is living,how he is living, he bark do you want to investigate me?! no,I said,I only want to know how-where you live,thats all.(no details) he lived in a room,at the hotel where he was working. and own a house,he wasnt in more than sometimes because of distance. what is that to be upset about. Dont you think it is strange. He explained it he got upset,because he thought I was asking the same over and over again. And I repeated myself,that I only needed proper answer.
He also called me stupid,dumb etc today,when I was telling him what she answered me,and all this i was telling you right before. is that a dealbreaker too?
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RE: Turkey Dom.. - 4/4/2009 5:05:08 PM   
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ps I had to tell him,you cannot force someone to play with you(he said try convince her),first THEN he got it,and just answered ok. Do you think its weird or dealbreaker? Im just feeling like I wanna throw up

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RE: Turkey Dom.. - 4/4/2009 5:07:35 PM   
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I told him also,that I will not tolerate,when we are talking ordinary if he calls me dumb or stupid its okay in play. he just said ok!

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RE: Turkey Dom.. - 4/4/2009 5:09:51 PM   
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hmmm....

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RE: Turkey Dom.. - 4/4/2009 5:10:59 PM   
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He sounds like a turkey, all right!

Seriously, as far as playing with others goes, I doubt that approach will work well. Being called stupid/etc. may or may not be a hard limit, that depends on what you are comfortable with and have negotiated with him.

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RE: Turkey Dom.. - 4/4/2009 5:14:02 PM   
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I draw a line at being told to coerce someone who has already said no. 

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RE: Turkey Dom.. - 4/4/2009 5:18:48 PM   
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Yes.. I dont know really what foot to stand on in all this.. 

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RE: Turkey Dom.. - 4/4/2009 5:18:54 PM   
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Must resist...

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RE: Turkey Dom.. - 4/4/2009 5:21:37 PM   
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Next time, become friends first and meet them before you start talking about being owned.

Honestly this isn't that different from regular relationships. Would you agree to become engaged to someone when you didn't even know where they lived? When you hadn't met them? Would you agree that he had the right to expect you to somehow magically make things happen that you had no control over? You asked this other woman if she was interested, she refused. How were you supposed to change her mind?

Do you want others involved in the relationship before you even feel comfortable with him?

Did you meet him?

And the house probably is his parents, not a place he can ever bring you since they wouldn't appreciate a bride not from his religion. This is assuming he isn't already married and she's living there.

If you wouldn't do this in real life, don't do it now.

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RE: Turkey Dom.. - 4/4/2009 5:34:00 PM   
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After what I k n o w,he isnt married. He says it is his own house,not his parents. not anyone living there. what I know. Im well aware,reality can be different.
But in my mind were not there yet,either. I just mean,Im realistic.
I have no probs with other women and that task so far. Its only play anyway. He would not be directly involved,just watching.
This "ownership" is not final,its concideration time. To me,that is different.
That is a good one,to ask him, how I was suppose to change her mind. All I know so far,is he ordered me to try convince her. I mean.. no matter what, if a persons said no its no,no convincing there. I told him,I dont want to take part in anythings not agreed to. final. then and first then he said ok. that made me wonder..what is next,or, how to interpret this, etc. Short said,I dont know really what to do with it. Im in doubt what to believe about it. Also the namecalling which happened while we were talking, I mean,isnt that kinda ..abusive if not during play?




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RE: Turkey Dom.. - 4/4/2009 5:37:12 PM   
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He sounds like a real winner.

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RE: Turkey Dom.. - 4/4/2009 5:44:38 PM   
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I also had a strong feeling that he was writing her again, or tried to say something like ownership(well knowing about us etc).. she said he didnt,but just couldnt shake it.
No I havent met him so thats why Im also taking it cool. and will do so for a long while but things can happen anyway,as you see. but he has vent he wants to visit me first, before coming to him,he offered me to visit him. But he didnt knew if he could come because of work, but would try. He said to me,but can you afford it since Im not working then(yes),but that I didnt really understand. Because I know the risk,many from there I know how they look at west,as an opportunity,not to say hes like that,but you never know.
Well he doesnt practize religion and is not muslim,so he says. again..you never know. Im a christian so it could be dramatic lol but Im very openminded. I know lots of muslims as well.
One thing I dont really understand this woman made a suggestion if we could talk further,exchange experiences etc.. what would you do that when all the reason I asked was about play,and she was even very insisting. to me it seems strange. Not that Im not open for friends, but now we were not in that playground,so to speak..
again,just my feeling something was up.
well that would be something I would think was kinda funny,if family were muslims and i come with my cross and bible lol well it could work,it depends on the ppl.
Im in for openmindedness.
what do you mean with "magickally make things happen that I had no control over"?  about the girls? well he do want me to search.. he is impatient. started out with he talks with some Masters that has a slavegirl that does the same so he wanted me too,and since I have no probs with that so why not.



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RE: Turkey Dom.. - 4/4/2009 6:01:10 PM   
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How the hell does he have time to play online ? The man commutes 300 miles each way from home to work ?
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RE: Turkey Dom.. - 4/4/2009 6:10:03 PM   
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after having read your previous posts on here it doesn't really seem as though you've heard a single word anyone has told you.

My opinion? Step away from your computer..turn it off, throw it in the garbage..do something..but really...enjoy real life for awhile and learn to interact in real life for awhile. It seems as though you could use some social interaction with others so that you can gain some life experiences.

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RE: Turkey Dom.. - 4/4/2009 6:11:26 PM   
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No, he is living at hotelroom at same hotel where hes working,I found out, and goes home to his house sometime,because its a bit far outside.
He is taking care of his job at same time hes talking with me,that means he can suddenly be called. Daytime hes only sleeping,have spoken very few times daytime, I cought him once some days ago and there he told me he was going to bed again. strange but thats what he told me,hes sleeping all days.
After that,I asked him for his phone number,and he told me he only has work cell phone and has no phone home because of the same reason as above,he told me he would buy a phone, yes, we were discussing this too and same as above he got aggressive. That was what in the same as Ive mentioned earlier.
But anyway, you never know,when you havent met etc. so I dont take it so serious.

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RE: Turkey Dom.. - 4/4/2009 6:14:21 PM   
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Actually you are wrong,littlewonder,I do enjoy my life without him I got a great social life and hobbies. so, and, I also play live yes. And, besides, it was the purpose at least from the beginning that it should heading irl. so,do not misunderstand me.

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RE: Turkey Dom.. - 4/4/2009 7:40:07 PM   
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It sounds to me like you two are on different pages. He wants a harem of online slaves and you just want the occasional extra play partner. Have you thought of finding a BDSM group near you so that you can find someone that way? rather than online like this? Because this sounds like online bullshit game playing to me.

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RE: Turkey Dom.. - 4/4/2009 7:58:56 PM   
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No hes suppose to go irl at some point in time,he invited me to Turkey this summer,and tells me he even wants to visit me first,if possible(work),and at least what I know intentions from both sides serious enough. Said to be. Not something playpartner in crowds or occasional there but comitted to one,and thats also why I got suspicious.
Not that irl can be very different,Im aware. But for now at least I know the deal. He tells me he only wants me,right, and understand the agreement which Ive always made totally clear. Its not occasional from my side either. Its not easier to find what Im looking for at least near me,not when youre looking for 24/7. Im not talking about playdates,doesnt say me a shit.

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RE: Turkey Dom.. - 4/4/2009 8:01:46 PM   
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Not that I havent knew Dom from my end of universe also, but dont assume its easier. its not. Mentality is also different,and I come to enjoy other mentality than my own countrys. so, it makes it more complicated not impossible,but ranks are more high.

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RE: Turkey Dom.. - 4/5/2009 1:01:59 AM   
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Aren't you the same person who wrote asking us about going to Turkey to see a "Dom" you do not actually know?  Then asked about a Dom being "evil" or something for calling you a liar about your weight? If I weren't myself I'd be inclined to be deeply concerned for your mental health.  Instead being that I am me, I'm going to throw my 2 cents out there.  Please stop putting so much stake in men that you don't actually know.  You've yet to tell us a story where the Dom seemed legitimate, and you're really making yourself look crazy.  So to answer your question, this man sounds like he's full of shit.  It also sounds like he tries to intimidate you rather than answering your questions.  My best suggestion: LEAVE HIS ASS ALONE. 

The key to anything is to be safe and sane not desperate.

Then as someone else said walk away from your computer, you sound like you might not be super secure with yourself (If I'm wrong sorry, just my observation) and you should work on that before you attempt a serious relationship of any kind.  Having low self-esteem can make for some stupid behavior.  Now if you're cool with yourself and your view of self is fine, try some local stuff.  It might be easier on you than the online thing.  

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