Maya2001 -> RE: Low Income Dominants. (12/11/2007 8:35:21 AM)
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Having been on social assistance myself after I left my husband, I can understand both sides of the story I will start with those recieving assistance for disability, they have had to prove they are unable to work by usually a number of doctors and often been put under a lot of stress before being proven unfit to work in most cases, they will recieve a fixed amount for living off of, if they spend foolishly than they are screwed no more assistance will come their way , so they get the same regardless of how they spend it, so if they decide to go without one thing to get by something else I have no problems with because the amount of my taxes I pay is not affected For those that are getting subsidized help , they also are on fixed amounts based on their income, how they choose to spend that money makes no difference to me if they spend on a luxury or non necessity that means they have to cut somewhere else, so again my tax amount is not affected if say someone like Luna decides to buy some leather to make a flogger for their personal recreation use that is their business. What is abuse of the system is where those that have the opportunity to financial help themselves won't, for example in most cases single moms can get babysitting to allow themselves to go back to school with assistance to often help as well for tuition, and they choose not to take advantage of, there are often programs to help with clothing inorder to help them with getting employment, most agencies and people have no problems with allowing the mom to stay home and raise their children to when they are in school fulltime as it helps to offset the funding of babysitting inorder to work, but I have seen a number of single moms feel that it should their right to stay of assistance till their child finishes school to me that is wrong, first because it does nothing to influence the child that one should work for what they want and often I have seen these welfare children grow up to become wrlfare moms because that is the life they have become accustomed to and know so they see no reason to better themselves and expect more from life. another problem is that by the time the children are done school mom has no skills or job references as a mature adult to assist her then in finding employment so greater chance of being a single adult and continued drain to the system worse offence are those that continue to have children while recieving assistance which helps to increase their welfare income but also is used as a means to continue recieving assistance. Other abuses include blowing their welfare check knowing that they can get food from a foodbank which was meant for the destitute instead which is like robbing from those that are contributing members of society and well as those far worse off In most cases they are aware of what services are available to them to help them help themselves as often a case worker will come be and visit them to discuess once of twice a year. and I know it has not changed a whole lot from my days when i needed help getting ahead as I currently have an ex-daughter in law on the welfare system and unfortunately she is one of the lazy ones who refuses to help herself and is abusing the system including having a boyfriend living with her contributing to the household income while getting welfare and subsidized housing and has recently added a purebred puppy costing several hundred dollars to her home, I can only hope that my son and I can become the influence her daughter needs not to greo up and become a useless cheating welfare mom herself, thankfully my son did see my struggles to make it on my own to make myself a self supporting individual and he too is disgusted at what she is doing and knows with the $600 he pays monthly in child support and providing benefits she would no where have it as hard as I did trying to make it with no child support coming in , so she would not be as restricted in what jobs she can afford to take, because his support payments would allow her to make it with a minimim wage job and still recieve more that welfare pays. Sadly abuse of the system by single moms is actually very high, when I was on I would say close to 80%, because I don't live in subsidized housing now nor am I doing taxes returns for those on assistance I can't say if it is as high now but with what little I see, I expect it is still greater than 50%. the problem is that the individuals who are abusing the system are extremely selfish and lazy, trying to resolve the problem using cutbacks won't work because these same individuals will allow their children to suffer before allowing themselves, so the only ones that really get hurt are the children, the only way I can possibly see to resolve the abuse would be to have large co-ops/communes where work, housing and daycare is available for abled bodied single moms to recieve assistance, they must move into the co-op/commune with dorm type housing and work, with a portion of their earnings set aside to help set themselves up back into the regular community should they find work, but I cannot see our society agreeing to something like this as it would mean treating them more like more prisoners to achieve and I know I for one as a former welfare mom who did not abuse the system would not want for myself, but is the only way I can see a way around short of taking their children away and allowing them to fend for themselves and giving the children back only when they have proven they can support them with minimal assistance
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