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seduce a masochist? - 4/6/2009 11:34:47 PM   
MiladyLily


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Status: offline 		for those of you men who are masochists, how has a lady seduced you successfully? especially interested in ideas for early, initial contact in public places that require discretion.
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RE: seduce a masochist? - 4/7/2009 8:29:41 AM   
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RE: seduce a masochist? - 4/7/2009 12:19:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		The same way you seduce someone who isn't a masochist. Maybe the first kiss had a bit more hair pulling and a bit firmer of a hand on the back of my head, but the rest was pretty much the same. If someone tried to redden my arse on the first date to seduce my masochistic side, I'd be blackening their eye in response.

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RE: seduce a masochist? - 4/11/2009 10:04:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am not masochistic. Can't find anything it it, because of how we are raised to deal with pain, fear and other sensations and emotions or thoughts. I don't like or dislike pain so it's not central to me, but the power exhange through it is.

Saying that, it is my belief or at least, I guess a Lady can provoke or entice a Masochist with pain....but she seduces him with her loving, nurturing authority and care, how she makes him feel.

Even before they play, the first meeting over a cup of coffee to chat....that's when you are seduced, when the person uses her egstures, looks, voice, body language and touch to let you know her intentions and how she values you and if she wants to seduce you, well....all she has to do is to let you know that she may be holding the whip and you may end up in her cage, but that you are her treasured tiger, that she appreciates you and cares for you.

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RE: seduce a masochist? - 4/11/2009 10:23:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am always grateful for the fun of a pain session.  But that doesn’t necessarily equate to a long term commitment!

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RE: seduce a masochist? - 4/21/2009 3:58:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		My masochistic slave tells me he was seduced by the power of my presence when we met and my assurance to him that he would be cherished.
you hit the nail on the head with your description of how you believe a masochist is seduced...at least in my experience.


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RE: seduce a masochist? - 4/22/2009 6:15:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		I had a master who taught me much in the arts. One of the best swordsmen I have met.

He always used to say to me, secretly of course, that sometimes a man can be a wild
mustang, a horse that runs wild and free without restrain, but which needs control to give out its best, to reach its peak, and it knows it, it's why "some horses run better with a bit (or briddle or reign)" so his lady always becomes the rider with the gentle caress and the sweet words to feed him sugar cubes, but also the same person which holds his reigns ready to strike him with the crop or whip/quirt and dig in the spurs to give him what he wants: purpose.

Truth is, when a lady has a presence that encompasses the sub, both as a cage or corral for him to be hers and at her mercy, but letting him know it's a wall that circles around and protects him from the outside, and that she will guide him because she likes him, and appreciates him, not because he's just an instrument or beast to train for service and convenience, he will obey and love her.

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RE: seduce a masochist? - 4/22/2009 2:55:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MiladyLily

for those of you men who are masochists, how has a lady seduced you successfully? especially interested in ideas for early, initial contact in public places that require discretion.


I am going to answer this post as a Sado/masochist.
When being coerced by a Sadist I have to know absolutely that I can trust him. I mean if all goes well Im going to let him hurt me and so trust is paramount.
When I am chatting up a masochist I understand that they very probably, like myself, are not submissive and so I am not going to go down the Dominant route.
When I am with a Sadist or a masochist I need to be able to talk to them on a clear cut one to one basis without the bullshit. I need to know that the Sadist wants, needs and longs to give me the sort of pain Im looking for and is not going to cry off with 'well I think thats a bit too hard core for me' or 'Ill do it for you but Im not really enjoying it!"
When I am with a masochist I need to know that masochist likes to take the same sort of pain that I like to give and more importantly that they are genuinely masochistic and haven't just imagined in some cyber chat room that they like pain!

As a masochist I would not want to be hurt discreetly in public because to be hurt discreetly in public would imply there was some sort of dominance going on. As a Sadist playing with an unsubmissive masochist I would not want or desire to hurt them in public because the chances are that they are not looking for any form of humiliation.



< Message edited by allthatjaz -- 4/22/2009 2:56:01 PM >

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RE: seduce a masochist? - 4/24/2009 3:49:44 PM   
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RE: seduce a masochist? - 4/24/2009 7:04:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: humble75

If she grabs me and her hands are strong, the seduction is starting..


...now my curiosity is piqued.  What comes next in your seduction?


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RE: seduce a masochist? - 4/25/2009 12:18:26 AM   
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Something someone did once that made me swoon, almost, was... when I shook his hand he pressed his forefinger's nail into my wrist enough to send shocks of pain down my spine. Not sure if he was sadistic, or just trying to be 'manly' or something never met him again... it was a completely random-chance meeting at a party.

Couldn't stop thinking about him the rest of the night. I imagine for a woman who has longer nails it'd be easier to do :)

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RE: seduce a masochist? - 4/25/2009 2:35:15 PM   
ThundersCry


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Status: offline 		Never tried suduccing a masochist...
 
But I did seduce a sadist one time <eg> funny when you ask one straight up *hurt me....please*
 
I think she came...<eg>

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