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'You're going to die the way you live' - 4/7/2009 12:54:56 PM   
Vendaval


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Status: offline 		This story is a good follow up after the discussion on redemption.

'You're going to die the way you live'
By William LambSpecial to CNN
 
April 7, 2009
 
"(LifeWire) -- When George Dello of San Diego was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer and told he had at best five months to live, he didn't immediately begin the chemotherapy treatments his doctor recommended. Instead, he and his wife, Pam, drove up the California coast and spent a week among the redwoods north of San Francisco.

"These trees are 5 feet wide and 150 feet tall," said Dello, 43. "They still have another 150 feet to grow and are going to stick around for another 1,000 years. When I thought about that, I'm just a flea on the bark. It's unbelievable."

The trip offered Dello, who worked in the auto repossession business, and his wife a chance to come to terms with the diagnosis in August 2008, and to scratch the trip to the redwood forests off his life "to do" list while he was still relatively healthy.

He died four months later.

"The idea that dying well is as important as living well gained cultural currency last year when Randy Pausch, a computer science professor at Carnegie Mellon University, delivered a final lecture a month after learning that his pancreatic cancer had spread and was inoperable. The lecture was viewed millions of times on the Internet and adapted into a best-selling book.

"We cannot change the cards we are dealt," Pausch, who died in July at age 47, told his audience, "just how we play the hand.""

http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/wayoflife/04/07/lw.how.good.death/index.html

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RE: 'You're going to die the way you live' - 4/7/2009 12:56:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Those trees are real neat in person.   :-)  Pancreatic cancer is very bad and usually fatal.  

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RE: 'You're going to die the way you live' - 4/7/2009 2:02:47 PM   
Vendaval


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Status: offline 		I love going out to the more remote areas free of the noise and chatter of the Industrial Age.  The moutains and ocean and 2000+ year old trees and whales migrating put all the stupid human tricks in perspective. 

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So in this gray haze we'll be meating again, and on that
great day, I will tease you all the same."
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RE: 'You're going to die the way you live' - 4/7/2009 6:37:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Since i'm habitually late that sounds like good news 

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RE: 'You're going to die the way you live' - 4/7/2009 8:31:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Vendaval

I love going out to the more remote areas free of the noise and chatter of the Industrial Age.  The moutains and ocean and 2000+ year old trees and whales migrating put all the stupid human tricks in perspective. 


You know, this sounds like hyperbole, but the moment I first walked beneath a redwood was literally a life-changing experience. Which was amazing, because you know, it's.... just a tree. Right?

But there it is. I can count on one hand the number of moments in my half-century of life that had that sort of impact on me. Only a week and a half before I'm back in the shadow of those towering, ancient majesties, and I can taste the crystalline purity of that cool, clean, California air already. I don't know if the pine trees of Minnesota will ever be enough for me again. You're very fortunate to live out there.


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RE: 'You're going to die the way you live' - 4/7/2009 10:05:37 PM   
Vendaval


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Status: offline 		Thank you, Panda. 

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RE: 'You're going to die the way you live' - 4/8/2009 1:21:17 AM   
awmslave


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Status: offline 		"You're going to die the way you live" has no logical meaning. You may just not wake up one morning and that's it.

It seems to become a new celebrity thing making personal dying a process for public to observe.  I am not sure what to think of it. Do we need to be reminded constantly vitae brevis est, memento mori?

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RE: 'You're going to die the way you live' - 4/8/2009 6:29:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Doc Holliday: In vino veritas.
["In wine is truth" meaning: "When I'm drinking, I speak my mind"]
Johnny Ringo: Age quod agis.
["Do what you do" meaning: "Do what you do best"]
Doc Holliday: Credat Judaeus apella, non ego.
["The Jew Apella may believe it, not I" meaning: "I don't believe drinking is what I do best."]
Johnny Ringo: [pats his gun] Eventus stultorum magister.
["Events are the teachers of fools" meaning: "Fools have to learn by experience"]
Doc Holliday: [gives a Cheshire cat smile] In pace requiescat.
["Rest in peace" meaning: "It's your funeral!"]

(sorry, you just reminded me of that movie)


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RE: 'You're going to die the way you live' - 4/8/2009 6:48:02 AM   
Vanityfull


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Status: offline 		anyone not going to die becuase the way they live?
also we will kill those trees before old age gets them


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RE: 'You're going to die the way you live' - 4/8/2009 12:50:42 PM   
Vendaval


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Status: offline 		awmslave,
 
Did you read the linked article?  The focus is on people dying over a long period of time due to serious illnesses.  Of course anyone can be dead in an instant from an accident, heart attack or stroke, etc.

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So in this gray haze we'll be meating again, and on that
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RE: 'You're going to die the way you live' - 4/8/2009 1:05:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		When I was handed a death sentence, I determined first to get everything in order and prepare my family and make sure they were okay.  Then I didn't die when they expected me to... so I added more.  I wanted to live... and live happy and fun and do all the things I missed doing and seeing or couldn't do in life.  I was making my happy ending! lol

Of course... life and son had other plans for me and I am still trying to work on that happy ending... but darn it, if I can manage it... I am going to LIVE and LIVE WELL... someday. lol  To hell with that death sentence... I'm not goin!

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RE: 'You're going to die the way you live' - 4/8/2009 4:15:24 PM   
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awmslave,

Did you read the linked article? The focus is on people dying over a long period of time due to serious illnesses. Of course anyone can be dead in an instant from an accident, heart attack or stroke, etc.



Certainly, one may consider "dying process" in this context. To be consistent it starts with birth... and we reach the conclusion: you die as you live.

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RE: 'You're going to die the way you live' - 4/8/2009 8:31:02 PM   
Vendaval


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Status: offline 		My step-father was fond of saying that we come into this world naked, bald, toothless and screaming and if we live long enough, we go out the same way.

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"Beware, the woods at night, beware the lunar light.
So in this gray haze we'll be meating again, and on that
great day, I will tease you all the same."
"WOLF MOON", OCTOBER RUST, TYPE O NEGATIVE


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RE: 'You're going to die the way you live' - 4/9/2009 9:49:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well being Irish, you know and adapting...I am go'n out with beer, boobs and debauchery, i.e., likely a heart attack, with my boots on my feet and a smile on my face.

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RE: 'You're going to die the way you live' - 4/9/2009 11:54:03 AM   
Vendaval


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Status: offline 		Sounds about right, Mr. Rodgers. 

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"Beware, the woods at night, beware the lunar light.
So in this gray haze we'll be meating again, and on that
great day, I will tease you all the same."
"WOLF MOON", OCTOBER RUST, TYPE O NEGATIVE


http://KinkMeet.co.uk

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