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RE: Overloaded submissives - 4/18/2009 10:49:48 AM   
Aly055


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I'm currently a second year student in college.  On top of the hours I'm in classes I also have a large amount of homework and studying I also work 4 or 5 days a week on top of that.  Lately I've had a huge amount going on finals are coming up.  I'm trying to find someplace to move which means working even more because I'm going to need to have the money for a secrutiy deposit and such.  I have a couple of larger papers due before finals alos.  My dom is very understanding he was at that point in life once too so.  Actually I got in trouble the other night because I didn't get my hw done before I went over.  He had told me to finish it up before I came over.  Although on my behalf it was math and I did try doing it I just needed to get help on it.  He just supports me listening to me rant when I need to and he understands that I may not be able to come over as often and he has no problem with that.  Just like he has not problem if I just need to stay at my place and relax although I told him even me going to visit him is a break for me.  It's not homework or work or anything so it's for the most part me time.  It's something I want to do not that I have to do.  Also if I'm sick he's easy going about things to he knows I may just need to stay home and sleep to get feeling better.

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RE: Overloaded submissives - 4/18/2009 12:23:37 PM   
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dear pixel, i'm sorry things went like this for you. 

in my relationships with both Daddy and TheEngineer, i have one rule that is most important.  i am their property, and i must protect the property, even if it means from them, also.  if i'm being run ragged, and not taking care of myself, my health issues are going to flare up.  if i dont open my mouth and SAY SO, i'm in trouble for not protecting the property, you know?

(as i'm about 12 hours out from an ER trip, which i requested, i'm succeeding at protecting the property.  antibiotics suck ass.)

i learned that the hard way.  i'm not indistructable by a long shot, and it sounds  as though you arent either.  one of the things that make a lot of sense, are the airline rules for oxygen use. (hang with me, i have a point.)  the airline rules are "take care of yourself FIRST, then any children you are traveling with."

if you dont take care of yourself, you cannot take care of anyone else.  not UMs, not spouse, not work, not dominant.  in no specific order of importance, of course!  she was not totally in the right, you were not totally in the wrong.  but you learned some of the limits your body will take, and hopefully you'll learn what your burnout clues are *before* you wear yourself that low again.

kitten, who sends hugs and get well wishes

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RE: Overloaded submissives - 4/18/2009 3:11:59 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pixelslave

I appreciate the many replies to my post and the many viewpoints expressed.  I can't respond to them all, but will try to address a number of them. 
 
Let me first say that the Domme is a very well known one in my community, making what I feel comfortable posting somewhat limited as I don't want to post anything that might be interpreted as being disrepectful of her.  I also don't want to be in a position of starting a "he said, she said" kind of thing.  I don't recall who said I should have gotten to know her better before becoming involved, but she longstanding reputation in our community which weighed very heavily on my decision to do so despite my numerous other commitments and obligations.  At the time things began, I purposely wasn't looking for a relationship because of the many other obligations and priorities in my life. 
 
My apologies to Goddess T` for neglecting my friends.   I can assure her it had much more to do with having been very busy for quite some time than with starting the relationship.  As YoungBlondSlave noted, there are times when one needs to take a day for themselves.  I'd add that all work and no play makes for a very dull and unexciting life for pixel.  So having someone to share it with, even knowing I had more things on my plate that I was currently able to juggle was an invitation I couldn't pass up.  That was something clearly discussed up front for those who missed it in my OP.  I also saw where her strengths could balance my weaknesses and vice versa, creating some synergy that could benefit both of us; reducing the sense I was having from being overwhelmed by certain other things that I felt she could me help with and I could do likewise for her.
 
The Domme in question, seemed to understand and stated that certain things needed to be taken care of before I could serve her; including my obligations to career, my UM's, and so forth.  With her having UM's that lived with her as well, mine were always welcome; making things all that much easier.  Priorities of those kinds were things we discussed. 
 
To clarify for DarkSteven, I didn't say I had poor time management skills although like anything else about me, there's plenty of room for improvement in that area.  I see many familiar faces/names who've posted in this thread who've likely noted my absence on the boards for a number of months.  Not to sound defensive, but that absence has been a conscious decision I had to make as part of managing my time. 
 
The problem is one of managing and organizing paper.  I've simply never learned or been taught how to efficiently organize and manage the volume I've been dealing with of late (much increased from what I've ever dealt with in the past).  I can organize gigabytes of material on a computer's hard drive quite well, but seem to be overwhelmed with incoming mail and other documents which have been accumulating that I've seemingly not been able to get a handle on how to organize so they can be retrieved without difficulty when I need to find them.  Did I ask for help with it from the Domme?  Yes, in fact she volunteered the help in exchange for help with her computers before we ever got involved (an obligation I fulfilled).  
 
Once we became involved, she'd see me bring briefcases full of papers to her place and work on sorting through them while there.  Did she say anything about my having them there as a disorganized and unkempt pile of papers?  Yes, in fact she did!  While seeing me struggle with them did she offer to help me figure out how to sort and file them in an orderly manner as promised?  No, she didn't.    How many times was I to ask her for the help she'd promised?
 
FWIW, I've since contacted someone else for help with learning how to improve my skills in dealing with the problem. 
 
There's no doubt that the Domme in question didn't value the relationship as much as I did.  I can't argue with that and would definitely agree with it.  She saw that for quite some time I'd set aside the strong needs I have as a submissive to serve another along with my needs as a human being to have an intimate relationship with another person.  An argument could be made that I was also in a certain amount of sub frenzy in wanting to do things for her from having suppressed those needs.  Yet, I wouldn't want to use that as an excuse for what transpired. 
 
I can say that it was often difficult to talk at times when at her place because of the kids and other things going on that would create interruptions.  She'd then be unwilling to discuss much of anything when we weren't together in person; making it quite difficult to bring these kinds of issues up when they were timely for me (perhaps her way of avoiding them?).  At those times, it seemed as though I found myself in a no-win situation.  I couldn't discuss the list of things I had on my plate and ask her to set my priorities when we weren't face to face. 
 
I'd have to say there was also an internal struggle going on within me to serve her that was battling the reality of what I was physically capable of doing.  I knew I needed to do as a number have suggested (as I also posted in my OP), which was to give her my list and ask her to set my priorities.  Yet there's also the part of me that wants to be the "perfect submissive" who does everything asked of him by his Domme.  I suspect that's a struggle many of us s-types face unless we have the help and support of our Dominants in dealing with it.
 
I should add, that as the fatigue set in, I began to find things taking increasingly longer amounts of time to accomplish and saw myself falling further behind in the several weeks before I became noticeably sick.  That may have been when I actually came down with the mono.  I'm not really certain as it wasn't diagnosed at the exact time I was having it.  It was only detected much later in a blood test.
 
When I had bronchitis the first time, I discovered she had little patience for my being sick.  My spirits being lifted from being around her she seemed to take as a sign of my being better instead of feeling comforted.    My response was to push myself to do things when I should have rested instead.  Things snowballed from there s I didn't slow down to rest like I typically would have.  I'm still quite run down and am slowly recovering from the mono and vit D deficiency.  And yes, there's lots of paper still waiting for me to organize with more that accumulates daily. 
 
Fortunately, help is now available that's only a phone call away which I can utilize to improve my skills with that whenever I have energy available to use it.
 
Thank you to those who took the time to post a reply.
 
 - pixel

She'd also say there wasn't time to be sick; that things still had to be done.

That line speaks volumes.  your domme didn't care about you very much as a person.


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RE: Overloaded submissives - 4/18/2009 3:29:57 PM   
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In my case pixel, it was learning how to say no to anybody, after a lifetime of saying yes to everybody (I don't mean sexually, but like many other submissives I know we're so often the ones who are willing to help out - whether it be individuals, clubs, charities, whatever- and get completely overwhelmed).  You have to learn how to take care of yourself FIRST - and many of us don't learn that lesson until sadly we become very sick or have a breakdown or some other trauma.

My ex-Master (who is still a dear friend) gave me a wonderful piece of advice.  He said when people ask me to do something, ask yourself, why do they need YOU to do this?  Start thinking about that everytime someone asks you to do something and it's amazing how often you realise they're just plain lazy or they're just users.  They're just looking for a sucker.  Don't be one.  Be realistic and be street-smart!  Good luck.

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RE: Overloaded submissives - 4/18/2009 5:20:18 PM   
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Well, man I only just scanned the posts to check, but I hope by now someone has told you that you may need to stop being such a people pleaser.  Seriously.  There are only 24 hours of the day, and some of them have to involve sleeping, eating, showering, and generally surviving.  The rest is yours to deal with.

I work, go to school online, help look after my elderly parents, and currently am growing a garden, but My Lord and I understand that I need time off.  We take days like today where all we do is sit.  We've already turned down two requests for cargo pick ups.  We have a van, and are actually very nice about hauling people/stuff, but today we are going no where.  I'm ok with sitting inside my house like a hermit, screwing around on the internet for a while. 

Get a book about learning to say no, and read it cover to cover, then put it into action.  You might also take a stab at Dr. Phil's Life Matters book.  It's a good read, and it's annoying but he's right about a lot.  Otherwise, this pattern is going to repeat itself over and over in your life, just like it's doing now.  Change is only going to happen when you change yourself, cause you sure can't change anyone else.

edited to add:  it seems like this was an actual relationship with this woman, and not just a dom/sub thing so I wanted to add this.  If I am getting run down, My Lord sees it most often before even I do.  We have our little rules and tasks I am to complete for him, mostly voluntary.  But he always SEES me and knows when I am taking on to much.  He then HELPS me with all of it, however he can, and together we work our way through it.  I SEE him, and know when he is working too hard or not feeling well, and step in and HELP him when he needs it.  The kink is fun, but our life together is not just about the d/s.  It's about the us. 

< Message edited by StormsSlave -- 4/18/2009 5:25:18 PM >


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RE: Overloaded submissives - 4/18/2009 5:35:57 PM   
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One important technique is to avoid dominants who give you assignments that you can't handle.  Very bad sign in a dom--it means he or she is not doing what it takes to learn about the sub's unique skills and limitations.

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ORIGINAL: pixelslave

So my question is, how do you as a submissive manage the tasks you take on (or have no choice but to take on) that come from the various parts of your life along with assignments given to you by your Dominant without overloading yourself?  I genuinely don't want to repeat this experience again.

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