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stonefemmie -> RE: Which is worse, bullwhips or canes? (2/8/2006 1:46:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Archer

OK I'm a competent bullwhip player, I have felt the whip myself both by accident and once with someone hitting me as part of a demo. Where to put it on your scale of pain is tough to say, as said a couple times the singletail whips can be as soft as a brushing with a string or as severe as a cutting of the skin, drawing blood.

\...../It's not something you just pick up and play with on people on the first day.

The person who I learned from required that I be able to 1. cut between 1" and 1/2 " off an uncooked spagetti noodle consistantly and then also required that I be able to hang a single sheet off toilet paper from a string and move the paper with just the air from the crack without tearing the paper 50 times in a row before I was considered ready to actually play with one on a live person.

If the person is unwilling to show proof of competency then maybe you need to rethink who you are trusting yourself to.

In Leather

Archer



Nicely put, Archer. It's just this kind of skill that is needed for throwing a bullwhip, or a single/signal tail of any kind. Whips are very dangerous implements of mass destruction in the wrong hands. They can, as has been stated, put out eyes, break skin horridly, and some of the heavier ones can break bones.

However, the very first time i heard one, that sound of C-R-A-A-A-C-K, i was hooked. i was absolutely drawn to the danger of it.

Luckily, in the local BDSM club here in my town there was a Whip Master who had many, many years at throwing one, and the Domme whom i was playing with at the time, introduced me to Him, as She knew how interested i was.

He introduced me to His bullwhip veeerrryy sllooowly.........just cracking the whip around my body at first and then occasionally bringing it to my body and rubbing it on me. He was very wise in how to help overcome my fear, believe me i was sweating blood, and when He saw i was ready, the action began, and i've never regretted it.

As for the Cane? The Domme i was playing with hit me with an acrylic one, about as big around as my little finger, three times and it instantly made it to my hard list........[&:]

Give me an experienced whip thrower anytime over the cane......acrylic ones, anyway.

Edited to add: This is my first post, and i have no idea why it says "Vanilla" under my User name. i am decidedly NOT vanilla. I'll have to go see how to get that changed....


sweetly,
stonefemmie...





astrid21 -> RE: Which is worse, bullwhips or canes? (2/24/2006 12:21:26 PM)

i can take the cane, however i have never had the bull whip and would want to be very sure that the person applying it has experience...and i don't want them to get their experience on me. i have been involved in scenes where the whip was used and it was more sensual and did not cut. i still want the kiss of the kane.




ayasha -> RE: Which is worse, bullwhips or canes? (2/25/2006 1:35:05 AM)

This one has felt the cane and the bullwhip both on many occasions. one would NEVER allow anyone to use them on her without observing the person using them first. However, if the person is skilled? Both can be quite wonderful. one actually prefers the bullwhip - in fact, craves the bullwhip. one thinks it is the name "bullwhip" that makes it sound so awful. Kind of like "root canal" - the sound of it is much worse than the actual experience.





cinnfulhussy -> RE: Which is worse, bullwhips or canes? (2/25/2006 11:17:48 AM)

They are both delightful, in my opinion. I'm a caneslut however so I find them more pleasurable than whips.




TexasMaam -> RE: Which is worse, bullwhips or canes? (2/25/2006 10:02:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: fiddlegirl

Thanks for your thoughts, all.

Lucky Albatross' idea of getting my top to teach me to use the whip is interesting - that certainly might help with my phobia about it.

As for the comments about aim and experience - you're right, no doubt, but I'm not worried about my top's ability to handle his end of the whip - I'm worried about my ability to handle my end of it.

When I first experienced caning in real life, I found that it's reputation for painfulness is much exaggerated, and I hadn't needed to be so scared. So I was hoping that somebody would tell me that single tails aren't so bad after all - Bitatruble's comments were especially useful, even if they weren't what I wanted to hear.

Fiddlegirl


A bullwhip is My favorite hard core pain toy, and I'm really adept at using one. Even with My level of experience, they are difficult to control, however.

If you're not sure how well you'll take it, I'd suggest talking to your Dom about that very issue, first.

Ask him to be sure to use some other form of warmup before you jump into a bullwhip session. Then, ask him to let you watch him practice on a pillow. Set a Hershey's kiss on a pillow and let him crack it off the fabric without cutting the pillow open, or without leaving a deep indent in the pillow. If you're confident of his level of control, then start a bullwhip warmup.

Once the whip cracks, be sure you communicate your pain and/or fear after every fall, until you allay some of those fears. There's no harm in crying 'mercy!' the first time you're subjected to a bullwhip.

I will tell you that My sub wimped out on his first bullwhip session with Me. Later, he said that the pain faded away so completely after about 2 hours that he was ashamed he hadn't held up better.

He shouldn't have fretted: We've had subsequent bullwhip sessions and he's 'held up' just fine!

Texas Maam






mnottertail -> RE: Which is worse, bullwhips or canes? (2/26/2006 6:32:44 PM)

LOLOLOL,

Do you really wanna know? C'mon over here and on your knees, bitch........

LOL,

given the proper site, circumstance and usage; each has there own amusing features.............

Seriously after that tho,
Ron




MasterOwnskitty -> RE: Which is worse, bullwhips or canes? (2/26/2006 8:51:33 PM)

I've used the cane for years and also a single tail. I am about to purchase my first bullwhip and realize that no two "toys" are alike. I know I have a lot of practice to do before I can even consider using it on my slave. I hope your Master will do the same.




fiddlegirl -> RE: Which is worse, bullwhips or canes? (2/28/2006 12:52:46 PM)

Thanks for your further replies, everyone.

I said no thanks to the single tail at my last meeting with my top (not my master or dom, for what it's worth - I'm only into SM, not D/S), but we've talked it over more and I think I'll try it next time. When I asked if he practiced his aim at home on his pillow or cat, he said that in fact he does use it to play with his cat, who loves to chase and leap at the cracker.

It's funny the way the mind works sometimes - but I found that image of the whip as a cat toy to be very reassuring.

Fiddlegirl

PS to Stonefemmie: have you tried a rattan cane? I find them to be less severe, all other things being equal, than the synthetic canes.




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