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dave1212 -> RE: Rudeness ?? (1/31/2006 11:58:32 AM)

I would like to thank you all for your input about my question !!

Yes i have put on my profile "slave" but surely people must understand i have work commitment's too ?
I would have thought at least if either parties involved had work/ time issues they could be "worked on" rather than just dismissed ?

Nonetheless i will take heed of your advice and work on thickening my skin !![:D]




MysticalPhoenix -> RE: Rudeness ?? (1/31/2006 12:05:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: dave1212

I was as far as i can tell polite and courteous in explaining my reasons but i feel i was met with an unecessary reply..
Such like "a worthy slave would not have those issues"



By saying that you are not a worthy slave, she's saying that those grapes just out of reach are certainly sour.

Sour grapes is a common reply to a rejection. They are just trying to make themselves feel better, and hopefully make you feel bad.

I usually get, "It's your loss," after a polite refusal of an offer. I've never felt a sense of loss in such cases. How can something be my loss, if I didn't want it in the first place?

Phoenix




GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Rudeness ?? (1/31/2006 12:37:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: dave1212

I would like to thank you all for your input about my question !!

Yes i have put on my profile "slave" but surely people must understand i have work commitment's too ?
I would have thought at least if either parties involved had work/ time issues they could be "worked on" rather than just dismissed ?

Nonetheless i will take heed of your advice and work on thickening my skin !![:D]


I absolutely agree. I continue to have a question about who did the actual dismissing here. And if, in fact, this Lady did write to you with immediate "demands" as opposed to a mail to attempt to open a dialoge for the training you seek, then you should just ignore it as a rude and presumptious attitude. Or, as you state, you politely replied with a "no thank you".
The point I tried to make to you was that your profile on this site is very open and inviting with the indication that you are also open to relocation. It is well written and very sincere. That, in itself, makes it a rarity.
I know you said this particular email came from someone on another site. I can only draw a conclusion that you have a similarly written profile (if not the same) on that site.
What I read is that you received an email outlining some sort of proposal, you carefully considered it, and then you wrote back to decline due to time constraints. Did you determine this email to be a *command from on high*, or did you attempt to leave the door open for compromise due to your work schedule time constraints?
The reply from the Domina, as you quoted, is ridiculous, and the wording is even more ridiculous. As I said, if I had contacted a boy with a profile such as yours, and then received a declination due to time contraints, I may have questioned your sincerity and committment also. Of course, I would not have sent a mail outlining anything in the nature of dicating what time I wanted you to be at My house. I am open to being more than reasonable. Only you can determine if this Lady was not. Only you know what was in the original email you received and how or why you made a decision to immediately decline.
You always have the right to decline an offer, and the other party really should not have the right to be nasty about it. But it will happen so that is where the thicker skin comes into play.
My question: Who dismissed whom?




dave1212 -> RE: Rudeness ?? (1/31/2006 1:00:33 PM)

Hello again GoddessDustyGold,
The Domme in question did not mail me with any immediate demand's "my fault as i did not make it clear" i recieved a mail with a list of requirements etc and as mentioned before i read said list and decided as mentioned before as my/her time/work commitments etc i could not see a workable scenario that was why i declined the offer !!

As my profile does indeed state i would consider relocation that too would only be workable after a lot of discussion/chat/mail etc as obviously it would be a big decision !!

I would like to thank you for showing a little personal interest in this subject and it is appreciated !!




GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Rudeness ?? (1/31/2006 1:25:22 PM)

Well, in that case I understand more as to how you might have received what we often call the "dreaded form email", which may not have been a demand or command but simply a list of requirements which you felt you could not fulfill.
Her immature response is not *worthy* of your angst.
I am sure you will find the right lady, eventually.




LadyMorgynn -> RE: Rudeness ?? (1/31/2006 1:56:59 PM)

Dave,

A word of advice. Yep, you'll probably get lots of these, and worse, because the anonymity of the Internet induces certain types to leave behind any manners that they may have been taught as a child. There are also plenty of those with "my way or the highway" mindsets. Give these responses exactly the amount of thought they deserve: NONE. Use the Delete button and move on, and don't worry about them. After all, do you*really* want a Domme who thinks and behaves in such a manner anyway?

quote:

ORIGINAL: dave1212

Hello to you all !

Please accept my apologies as i'm sure this will have been covered somewhere before !!

I was quite recently approached via another site from a Domme who was seeking slaves..
After carefully reading her requirements i decided that due to travelling distances and other things it would not be workable..
I mailed said Domme and carefully worded my reasons as to why it was not workable..
I was as far as i can tell polite and courteous in explaining my reasons but i feel i was met with an unecessary reply..
Such like "a worthy slave would not have those issues"
I am sure that was a one off but taking into consideration that it was "the Domme" that initiated the contact i was left feeling a little bemused !!

Am i correct in thinking this is one of the "few" negative responses i will recieve or will i experience this quite often ??





seaturtle50 -> RE: Rudeness ?? (1/31/2006 4:10:51 PM)

quote:

Yes i have put on my profile "slave" but surely people must understand i have work commitment's too ?
I would have thought at least if either parties involved had work/ time issues they could be "worked on" rather than just dismissed ?


Hi dave 1212,

i myself as a novice at all this, but thought it may be important to note that in my understanding there are some significant differences with regard to sub/slave.

In my ever broadening understanding a sub would have a right to set their own desire and need to work outside the home as a "hard limit" and would therefore be allowed to do so once me reaches an agreement with a Domme who also finds this limit acceptable.

A slave however, is largely by his/her very nature obliged to accept the limits of his/her Domme in this, and all regards. So, outside work is possible, provided it is the Domme's will for the slave. Then of course there would still be the issue of the Domme's will as to the proper use of the slave's income. [;)]

In my case, i ultimately seek to become a slave. To me, this will most likely need to be a process, beginning as a sub. For lack of practical experience i see my role as a sub sort of like dating (in the nilla world) with the goal to eventually ask (plead, beg) to become slave and personal property to my Domina. Again, the "nilla" analogy that works for me is the collaring, as slave is the equivalent to becoming married. i am now "Hers"

Note: This is only my interpretation of the way that i see it. i understand there are many, many different ways, each to their own, and this submissive advises seeking the wise and abundant counsel of the desired Domme for clarification as to the proper methodology for the sub.

As i see it (and remember, i am only at the very first step in my "development" here) once collared (offered and accepted) as a slave, the only "surely people must understand" that i shall retain would be my right to ask to be released, which would mean, in most every case, my being let go.) This is why it seems to me that a sub/slave should take the process of selecting a compatable Domme <read a Domme to which one considers themself compatable) slow and with prudence.

So, please be certain to consider discussing all of this with your potential Domina, and that you do not assume anything - just because it makes sense to you that "most people" would understand a thing.

Have Fun! My best wishes to you!

seaturtle50




MIstressCyn127 -> RE: Rudeness ?? (2/2/2006 10:18:28 AM)

hrm.. well I had a sub person IM me today.. someone I have never talked to , and who obviosly had not read my profile ( he was male and on the other side of the country) and he called me rude for not stopping what I was doing and talk to him/sigh.. people sometimes. I did point out he never asked me if i could talk.. he just assumed I would give him some time and got pissed when I didnt. I reminded him to examine his expectations.. that jsut pissed him off more and he went off on me.. what a silly wanna be sub was he =))

M. Cyn




dave1212 -> RE: Rudeness ?? (2/3/2006 11:35:14 AM)

Well thank's again for your replys !!

All were very welcome and informative !!

And thankyou GoddessDustyGold for your advice !! [;)]




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