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KittenWithaTwist -> State of the Union 06 (1/31/2006 10:22:54 PM)
I was so surprised by the tidbit of information I read regarding the State of the Union address this evening! I never expected Bush (defeated in his desire to drill for oil in the Arctic Wildlife Refuge--a campaign I worked on in October) to express any desire to assist our environment. While I'm sure his advisors wrote the speech for him, I still happened to enjoy this small amount of positivity: quote: So tonight, I announce the Advanced Energy Initiative – a 22-percent increase in clean-energy research at the Department of Energy, to push for breakthroughs in two vital areas. To change how we power our homes and offices, we will invest more in zero-emission coal-fired plants; revolutionary solar and wind technologies; and clean, safe nuclear energy. We must also change how we power our automobiles. We will increase our research in better batteries for hybrid and electric cars, and in pollution-free cars that run on hydrogen. We will also fund additional research in cutting-edge methods of producing ethanol, not just from corn but from wood chips, stalks, or switch grass. Our goal is to make this new kind of ethanol practical and competitive within six years. Breakthroughs on this and other new technologies will help us reach another great goal: to replace more than 75 percent of our oil imports from the Middle East by 2025. What part did you like?

brightspot -> RE: State of the Union 06 (1/31/2006 11:05:38 PM)
quote: What part did you like? Zip, Nata, Zilch, I think he is a lying rat bastard. May the higher spirits help the women of this nation, because we are about to go back 30 years and we will need it! That's if we aren't All annihilated in a blink of an eye! *Brightspot

Gauge -> RE: State of the Union 06 (1/31/2006 11:25:07 PM)
His energy plan is great. Its a day late and a dollar short. This should have happened back in the 70's when the gas crisis hit. If what he says happens... wonderful. I have learned though that W only lies when his mouth is open.

UtopianRanger -> RE: State of the Union 06 (2/1/2006 2:04:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: brightspot quote: What part did you like? Zip, Nata, Zilch, I think he is a lying rat bastard. May the higher spirits help the women of this nation, because we are about to go back 30 years and we will need it! That's if we aren't All annihilated in a blink of an eye! *Brightspot HAR!! You don't pull any punches! I like that about you[;)] - The Ranger

Tantalus42 -> RE: State of the Union 06 (2/1/2006 3:32:02 AM)
I was going to say pretty much the same thing. Georgie Porgie has long touted these great new iniatives and funding increases to various programs that turned out to be just smoke and mirrors. They are constantly calling what is effectively DECREASES in important environmental programs "increases" because of the way they fix the numbers. For example... they could have cut funding for these programs three years ago by 63%, so increasing it 22% doesn't even begin to come close to where it was (this is standard practice for this administration, cut funding in off years when no one is paying attention and then raise it in election years to claim your superiority). Goodie on him for offering it. A better program would be to simply underwrite the price of every hybrid sold in America so they cost less them comparable gasoline powered models instead of more. Money is a huge incentive that we all love in this country, and by driving buying power into hybrids you mold the marketplace and allow free enterprise to reign by convincing businesses to invest more in this technology. And tie the incentive to mpg, the higher it is the more the citizen gets in a DIRECT payback (not one of those silly tax deductions that hardly do anything to cut your tax bill... give them cold, hard cash like they do all those rich energy companies to get them to drill places). quote: ORIGINAL: Gauge His energy plan is great. Its a day late and a dollar short. This should have happened back in the 70's when the gas crisis hit. If what he says happens... wonderful. I have learned though that W only lies when his mouth is open.

ZenrageTheKeeper -> RE: State of the Union 06 (2/1/2006 8:41:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KittenWithaTwist I was so surprised by the tidbit of information I read regarding the State of the Union address this evening! I never expected Bush (defeated in his desire to drill for oil in the Arctic Wildlife Refuge--a campaign I worked on in October) to express any desire to assist our environment. Yeah, right.. sure he is. And the moment they hit their first inevitable snag with new environment-friendly energy sources, the Republicans will immediately go back to drilling for oil in conservation areas. This time their excuse to Democrats and liberals will be "What? You want us to go back to the middle east for oil?" These people just keep piling on the bullshit.

thetammyjo -> RE: State of the Union 06 (2/1/2006 8:54:28 AM)
And anyone can attend the speech as long as you don't wear an "offensive" t-shirt even if everyone has seen it as you came in apparently. This pisses me off to no end. This is, of course, only her side of the issue, and I'm sorry if this offends some people here but I think this is an example of how our basic rights can be trampled very easily if we are not careful. http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/020106Z.shtml

Chaingang -> RE: State of the Union 06 (2/1/2006 9:38:40 AM)
Bush is a great President! As good Americans all of you should give him your full support. The nation's economy is in an upswing and the people are more hopeful than ever. Bush has been absolutely pivotal in maintaining relations with international markets in Asia and South America. By offshoring lesser paying jobs Bush has freed up our own economy to refocus on better paying more highly skilled labor positions for our own people. Critical tax cuts have been implemented so that the wealthy and corporations can spend more money on the kinds of reinvestments that make the economy thrive. Not only has he stood up to domestic terrorism but he has taken the fight right back to the terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan. With an eye to preserving liberty where possible, Bush has created a second shadow government that we can rely on in the case of a national emergency. By creating a nationally linked database system Bush has made anti-terrorist investigations a snap. Coming from the conservationist party, Bush has made sure that tapping our nation's natural resources is done in the most careful, least ecosystem invasive manner possible. Getting at those oil reserves is going to lessen our dependence on foreign sources and create more jobs for Americans in geographic areas that need them. I'd say things are looking great and getting better all the time. I can't remember ever feeling so happy about the direction of the nation's politics. People, the State of the Union is strong! Read more at this admittedly conservative leaning website: http://thinkprogress.org/?tag=State+of+the+Union

cloudboy -> RE: State of the Union 06 (2/1/2006 9:55:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Chaingang Bush has freed up our own economy to refocus on better paying more highly skilled labor positions for our own people. Funny, I thought he just maxed out the nation's credit to make everything look better than it is.

Arpig -> RE: State of the Union 06 (2/1/2006 10:12:19 AM)
quote: As good Americans all of you should give him your full support. I am not an "American", but I do have a good understanding of the principles on which the US was founded, and my understanding of it leads me to believe just the opposite...as good Americans, all of you should follow your concienses and speak your minds, be that pro or con on any given issue. Slavish (no insult intended to any of the wonderful slaves on CM) devotion to "The Leader" never has and never will lead to any good. Make up your minds and follow through, do not be silenced by pressures public or private...too many of your forebearers have died to give you that freedom for you to waste it. R.P. ~ a Canadian who sees much to admire in the America that should be.

MrThorns -> RE: State of the Union 06 (2/1/2006 11:27:14 AM)
Oh man! Please tell me this is sarcasm... quote: ORIGINAL: Chaingang The nation's economy is in an upswing and the people are more hopeful than ever. What are you basing the status of the economy on? The stock market? How many thousands of foreign investors put their money into U.S. based companies? What percentage of US Citizens have the additional income to invest? We are in debt up to our ass...how are we in an economic upswing? quote: Bush has been absolutely pivotal in maintaining relations with international markets in Asia and South America. By offshoring lesser paying jobs Bush has freed up our own economy to refocus on better paying more highly skilled labor positions for our own people. And as a result, those US citizens who aren't highly skilled or educated no longer have a job and can't afford to go back to school as they have a family to care for. quote: Critical tax cuts have been implemented so that the wealthy and corporations can spend more money on the kinds of reinvestments that make the economy thrive. Which reinvestments are those? Executive bonuses? Private jets and bigger expense accounts? House in the Hamptons? Or do you mean saving corporate dollars by cutting benefits and mass layoffs? quote: Not only has he stood up to domestic terrorism but he has taken the fight right back to the terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan. With an eye to preserving liberty where possible, Bush has created a second shadow government that we can rely on in the case of a national emergency. True...we have taken the fight to the terrorists and are doing it on their ground. I mean...why should Al Quaeda spend resources coming to the US to kill americans, when we will pay billions to ensure that they have hundreds of thousands of US targets to shoot at in their own back yard. We've just made terrorism more economical for them. Preserving liberty... who's liberty exactly? The Iraqis? Afghanis? Certainly not the liberties of the US citizens. And as they had no real hand in earning their liberty, how hard do you think they will fight to keep it when the next tyrant shows up? quote: Coming from the conservationist party, Bush has made sure that tapping our nation's natural resources is done in the most careful, least ecosystem invasive manner possible. Getting at those oil reserves is going to lessen our dependence on foreign sources and create more jobs for Americans in geographic areas that need them. I'd say things are looking great and getting better all the time. Now I know this is sarcasm. Bush would drill for oil through Teddy Roosevelt's head on Mt. Rushmore if he thought it would make his business partners happy. The only thing that will lessen our dependence on foreign oil is to lessen our dependence on oil..period. Personally, I'm disgusted with the state of the union...the direction we have taken...and how little people seem to care about what is going on in their own country. Harumpf, ~Thorns

Chaingang -> RE: State of the Union 06 (2/1/2006 11:35:45 AM)
Ah, MrThorns - did you follow my link? [:D] Strange how hard it is to satirize the right-wing, even when you attempt to sound nutty it just comes across as if you were playing it straight. And of course, there is no left proper - The Dems are just Rethugs-Lite. Let the looting begin...er, continue!

krys -> RE: State of the Union 06 (2/1/2006 6:47:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Chaingang Bush is a great President! As good Americans all of you should give him your full support. The nation's economy is in an upswing and the people are more hopeful than ever. Bush has been absolutely pivotal in maintaining relations with international markets in Asia and South America. By offshoring lesser paying jobs Bush has freed up our own economy to refocus on better paying more highly skilled labor positions for our own people. Critical tax cuts have been implemented so that the wealthy and corporations can spend more money on the kinds of reinvestments that make the economy thrive. Not only has he stood up to domestic terrorism but he has taken the fight right back to the terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan. With an eye to preserving liberty where possible, Bush has created a second shadow government that we can rely on in the case of a national emergency. By creating a nationally linked database system Bush has made anti-terrorist investigations a snap. Coming from the conservationist party, Bush has made sure that tapping our nation's natural resources is done in the most careful, least ecosystem invasive manner possible. Getting at those oil reserves is going to lessen our dependence on foreign sources and create more jobs for Americans in geographic areas that need them. I'd say things are looking great and getting better all the time. I can't remember ever feeling so happy about the direction of the nation's politics. People, the State of the Union is strong! Read more at this admittedly conservative leaning website: http://thinkprogress.org/?tag=State+of+the+Union Giggles. sniff sniff Ahh the sweet scent of sarcasm. That was too funny.

MrThorns -> RE: State of the Union 06 (2/2/2006 4:55:36 AM)
Heh...oops. It's been so long since I've had a good rant too....damn. quote: ORIGINAL: Chaingang Ah, MrThorns - did you follow my link? [:D] Strange how hard it is to satirize the right-wing, even when you attempt to sound nutty it just comes across as if you were playing it straight. And of course, there is no left proper - The Dems are just Rethugs-Lite. Let the looting begin...er, continue!

cloudboy -> RE: State of the Union 06 (2/2/2006 7:14:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thetammyjo And anyone can attend the speech as long as you don't wear an "offensive" t-shirt even if everyone has seen it as you came in apparently. This pisses me off to no end. This is, of course, only her side of the issue, and I'm sorry if this offends some people here but I think this is an example of how our basic rights can be trampled very easily if we are not careful. http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/020106Z.shtml >"Unlike the grounds surrounding the Capitol, which historically have been the site ofnumerous demonstrations, there has been a ban on demonstrations inside the Capitol since 1946 whenCongress decreed: “It shall be unlawful for any person or group of persons willfully and knowingly -- .. . to parade, demonstrate, or picket within any of the Capitol Buildings.” 40 U.S.C. § 193f(b)(7). TheUnited States Capitol Police are responsible for enforcing this ban. 40 U.S.C. § 212a. Believing thatthe Capitol Police needed guidance in determining what behavior constitutes a “demonstration,” theUnited States Capitol Police Board issued a regulation that interprets “demonstration activity” toinclude:parading, picketing, speechmaking, holding vigils, sit-ins, or otherexpressive conduct that convey a message supporting or opposing apoint of view or has the intent, effect or propensity to attract a crowd ofonlookers, but does not include merely wearing Tee shirts, buttons orother similar articles of apparel that convey a message." From United States District Court, Bynum v US Capital Police < http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=FN&action=m&board=7077166&tid=pfe&sid=7077166&mid=509868&thr=509868&cur=509868&dir=d

KittenWithaTwist -> RE: State of the Union 06 (2/2/2006 8:10:49 AM)
I spoke too soon. Of course Dubya is a lying repulsive scumbag. Apparently, I am a moron. quote: The Organisation of the Petroleum Exporting Countries on Wednesday warned that President George W. Bush’s proposal to reduce US dependence on Middle Eastern oil could badly jeopardise needed investment in Gulf oil production and refining capacity. quote: One day after President Bush vowed to reduce America's dependence on Middle East oil by cutting imports from there 75 percent by 2025, his energy secretary and national economic adviser said Wednesday that the president didn't mean it literally. What the president meant, they said in a conference call with reporters, was that alternative fuels could displace an amount of oil imports equivalent to most of what America is expected to import from the Middle East in 2025. quote: The Energy Department will begin laying off researchers at the National Renewable Energy Laboratory in the next week or two because of cuts to its budget. A veteran researcher said the staff had been told that the cuts would be concentrated among researchers in wind and biomass, which includes ethanol. Those are two of the technologies that Mr. Bush cited on Tuesday night as holding the promise to replace part of the nation's oil imports. sigh

JohnWarren -> RE: State of the Union 06 (2/2/2006 8:24:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thetammyjo And anyone can attend the speech as long as you don't wear an "offensive" t-shirt even if everyone has seen it as you came in apparently. This pisses me off to no end. This is, of course, only her side of the issue, and I'm sorry if this offends some people here but I think this is an example of how our basic rights can be trampled very easily if we are not careful. http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/020106Z.shtml She has an excellent case. The core case law in this case is a unanimous decision by the 1971 Supreme Court in Cohen v California wherein the defendant was arrested for wearing a t-shirt reading "Fuck the Draft." Of course, this took place before 9/11 and so, as the president keeps telling us, it was in a different world. [gag]

thetammyjo -> RE: State of the Union 06 (2/2/2006 12:18:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thetammyjo And anyone can attend the speech as long as you don't wear an "offensive" t-shirt even if everyone has seen it as you came in apparently. This pisses me off to no end. This is, of course, only her side of the issue, and I'm sorry if this offends some people here but I think this is an example of how our basic rights can be trampled very easily if we are not careful. http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/020106Z.shtml and just FYI I'm equally offended they asked the wife of a Republican to leave because she was wearing a "Support the Troops" t-shirt.

ZenrageTheKeeper -> RE: State of the Union 06 (2/3/2006 10:29:28 AM)
Welcome to Neo-McCarthyism

TexasMaam -> RE: State of the Union 06 (2/5/2006 7:41:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thetammyjo And anyone can attend the speech as long as you don't wear an "offensive" t-shirt even if everyone has seen it as you came in apparently. This pisses me off to no end. This is, of course, only her side of the issue, and I'm sorry if this offends some people here but I think this is an example of how our basic rights can be trampled very easily if we are not careful. http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/020106Z.shtml If I wanted to attend the speech, I wouldn't be stupid enough to wear a Tshirt or become enough of a heckler to get myself thrown out. Unless, of course, I was addicted to the spotlight and WANTED to see myself get escorted out on National Television. Then, of course, I'd wear flaming Tshirts and act like an ass until I had security guards and cameramen swarming Me like flies. Nothing like a predictable press, or the even more predictable public who will react just as tammyjo has. I recognize a publicity stunt when I see one. Texas Maam

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