Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

RE: ~~I'm Single & You're Single, Lets be Single together!!~~


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> General BDSM Discussion >> RE: ~~I'm Single & You're Single, Lets be Single together!!~~ Page: <<   < prev  1 2 [3]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: ~~I'm Single & You're Single, Lets be Single togeth... - 4/23/2009 8:46:57 PM   
justgemmie


Posts: 246
Joined: 8/24/2008
Status: offline
OMFG  i am so pissed!!!!  there are no words .......................................

i just spent a good half hour answering Your response Steel - but i had lost my connection so when i answered, it disappeared.

i will try to answer again tomorrow- i dont' have the heart to try again tonight.  it was long, and detailed and personal.

gemmie

_____________________________

"Being a Master to somebody or a slave to somebody is a relationship bound status. Without the relationship the status does not exist and all that is there is the potential or the natural inclination to fulfill such a status in the future." ~ ishyB

(in reply to SteelofUtah)
Profile   Post #: 41
RE: ~~I'm Single & You're Single, Lets be Single togeth... - 4/23/2009 9:03:38 PM   
DemonKia


Posts: 5521
Joined: 10/13/2007
From: Chico, Nor-Cali
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah
Why do you think with so many people looking there are still so many people looking?

Steel


Oh. Oh. *waves hand in air* . . . I got the short, pithy answer: dysfunctional, co-dependency enabling love songs -- of whatever genre . . . . .

I'm a bit of a connoisseur of that particular kinda song, an excellent example just came on, let me share the lyrics:

Save Me
by Aimee Mann

You look like a perfect fit
For a girl in need of a tourniquet

But can you save me
Come on and save me
If you could save me
From the ranks of the freaks
Who suspect they could never love anyone

'Cause I can tell
You know what it's like
The long farewell of the hunger strike

But can you save me
Come on and save me
If you could save me
From the ranks of the freaks
Who suspect they could never love anyone

You struck me dumb like radium
Like Peter Pan or Superman

You will come to save me
C'mon and save me
If you could save me
From the ranks of the freaks
Who suspect they could never love anyone
'Cept the freaks
Who suspect they could never love anyone
But the freaks
Who suspect they could never love anyone

C'mon and save me
Why don't you save me
If you could save me
From the ranks of the freaks
Who suspect they could never love anyone

Except the freaks
Who suspect they could never love anyone
Except the freaks who could never love anyone


& while I adore songs like this, I also view them with a certain leeriness anymore . . . . . I'm mostly joking, & I mostly suspect that it is truly a stew of factors behind pretty much any human behavior . .. .. But on the other hand, part of me wants to slap a warning sign on these songs . . . .. .

(in reply to SteelofUtah)
Profile   Post #: 42
RE: ~~I'm Single & You're Single, Lets be Single togeth... - 4/23/2009 9:16:59 PM   
lalbobbilynn


Posts: 483
Joined: 6/11/2006
Status: offline
Lonely people looking, needing, moreover wanting that which has come to be within their de-lovely minds(past experiences that make one swoon, & shiver w/ pleasure or a 3-D fantasy waiting to take form), and a slight additive from the internet, and POOF ... You have limitless drama.  
IMHO people are lonely and disconnected now more then ever ... the ease of ALL(IM, text, blah, blah) has pushed us further within, resulting in a self imposed catch 22. Couple that with folks being displeased with themselves for varying reasons .... past loves, and or encounters that soured ... most folks tend to have expectations that would impress the All Mighty, traits a mere human could never obtain; they lie like my Great Nana's never cleaned aerial rug, or they are so pained by love's lost a simple no thank You sets them into a tizzy. D/s merely broadens the spectrum of a "nilla" relationship ...... hence a wider scope in which to heap drama upon drama, a wider girth to fail ... and for a select few ... a wider range to heighten the normalcy of the world as we all know it.
i was married for seventeen years ..... i know how to make it work, i know how to help break it ... that was minus D/s.
It is what it is ...... and that dear man depends on who You are, where You have been, what You can let go of, what You can learn anew .... and if You are capable of being as true to another as You are to Your abyss of a mind.
b.~

(in reply to agirl)
Profile   Post #: 43
RE: ~~I'm Single & You're Single, Lets be Single togeth... - 4/23/2009 9:20:36 PM   
SteelofUtah


Posts: 5307
Joined: 10/2/2007
From: St George Utah
Status: offline
lalbobbilynn,

Do you know that when I read what you write I always give it a seductive tone, Almost the kinda tone that makes grown men feel under age.

Just thought you should know.

Your Writing is erotic to me even when nothing about it is erotic.

Steel

_____________________________

Just Steel
Resident Therapeutic Metallurgist
The Steel Warm-Up © ™
For the Uber Posters
Thanks for the Grammatical support : ) ~ Term

(in reply to lalbobbilynn)
Profile   Post #: 44
RE: ~~I'm Single & You're Single, Lets be Single togeth... - 4/23/2009 9:39:14 PM   
lalbobbilynn


Posts: 483
Joined: 6/11/2006
Status: offline
LMFAO .... be still my heart .... or my tongue rather(fingers in this case)!!!
You are most gracious, and i truly thank You.
Allow me to volley back in kind good man ........ Your posts either make me fall over in a tearful fit of laughter from being so dead pan, or they give me something to banter about in my unquenchable cranium for days.
BTW ... You are on point ... my voice is of a mid level mezzo with a slight Southern twang that gets called out by my Northern Clan, and articulation as well as vernacular that gets head scratches, and looks of WTF by my Southern friends!
Insightful!
b.~

(in reply to SteelofUtah)
Profile   Post #: 45
RE: ~~I'm Single & You're Single, Lets be Single togeth... - 4/24/2009 11:01:28 AM   
SimplyMichael


Posts: 7229
Joined: 1/7/2007
Status: offline
Steele,

I teach a class on being monogamous in the scene but much of what I talk about applies to poly as well.  Find out who you are and what you are looking for and embrace that.  It is the only path to happiness.  For ME, anyone who would wear a collar of consideration is unlikely to be anyone I could ever be interested in so I am GLAD they are doing it.  For me, it is like they just hung a cow bell around their neck and I can avoid them even in the dark.

The reality is most women are NOT a match for us, just as we are not a match for most women.  You can either fight that reality (and many do) and become a jack of all trades but the woman/women you end up with are NOT going to love the person you are at your core. 

Looking sucks, let me tell you.  Perhaps it is because I am such a cynic, or perhaps it is just because I have been around enough to know but I can tell where a relationship is likely to go and so I don't even bother if it isn't going to go where I want it to.  It isn't a case of rejecting someone for being too short, or not whatever enough, but of seeing the patterns that will lead it in some direction I am not interested in.

And while I get a bit crazy at times, the sane part of me says relax and wait.  I just keep getting better as I get older, my ability to be honest with and nurture someone keep improving, I am working on my own demons and dealing with them.  The woman who will inflame my passions and who's finger and neck are free to wear my mark is out there and I will find her.  I don't need to find her tonight or even next year but I finally know that when I do, she will look at me with the same intense passion, the same desire, that I feel toward her. 

I think that for SOME, the reason they are single is they HAVE discovered who and what they want.  I want someone full of joy, who can enrich my life with her full and complete presence.  Someone whom I can bring breakfast to in bed in the morning and who that night I can explore things I dare not mention here, someone who embraces every part of me just as I embrace every part of her.  Someone who sticks by me while I grow just as I support her in her growth.

In the meantime I am just going to embrace life to the fullest and I am not going to waste another moment "waiting" she is going to have to be running full speed too!  From white water rafting to hiking the rim of Kings Canyon, this summer I am going to explore life in ways I haven't in years.  I am also going to take up flogging and single tails, two things I have long avoided and have been offered lessons by some amazing players.  I have too many times in my life set those things aside waiting for someone to share them with and life finally taught me that was a very stupid idea.

So, I am not going to be "single" I am going to be me, as fully and as completely as possible.  I already know the sort of woman I want, she will appear around the bend, perhaps taking a cold sip of water as we enjoy the view at the side of a thousand foot precipice or wherever fates fickle humor makes it so.

(in reply to lalbobbilynn)
Profile   Post #: 46
RE: ~~I'm Single & You're Single, Lets be Single togeth... - 4/24/2009 12:09:22 PM   
ExSteelAgain


Posts: 1803
Joined: 7/2/2006
From: Georgia
Status: offline
My advice is to be flexible and understanding within your parameters of desires. I am sexually turned on by spanking, flogging and other sadistic things so I am looking within those guidelines. I know I need someone who needs that. Without that dynamic, my inner core desires would not be met. But a key point is to relax, be friends and play with whomever you want and see if it produces an extraordinary partner with time.

The concept of holding someone responsible for what happened in their past is weighed down with error on many levels. The person not only can change, the person has changed with you. Am I so powerless that I haven’t affected her in positive ways and changed her? Or knowing something about her before it starts, am I so powerless that I can’t have a changing influence on her?

It actually becomes a matter of connecting with the other person, even in a poly situation. When that happens you start to change each other even down to the physical, chemical, molecular level. I swear you start to share electrons or some kind of shit. When I can beat the hell out of you and you love it, you can't tell me some kind of marvel right off the Discovery Channel isn't happening.

_____________________________

You can paint a cinder block bright pastel pink, but it's still a cinder block. (By Me.)

(in reply to SteelofUtah)
Profile   Post #: 47
RE: ~~I'm Single & You're Single, Lets be Single togeth... - 4/24/2009 4:26:38 PM   
catize


Posts: 3020
Joined: 3/7/2006
Status: offline
quote:

 
Oh. Oh. *waves hand in air* . . . I got the short, pithy answer: dysfunctional, co-dependency enabling love songs -- of whatever genre . . . . .

I'm a bit of a connoisseur of that particular kinda song, 


I like movie quotes! 
 
In The movie The Big Chill, the character Meg sums it up pretty well.
“They're either married or gay. And if they're not gay, they've just broken up with the most wonderful woman in the world, or they've just broken up with a bitch who looks exactly like me. They're in transition from a monogamous relationship and they need more space. Or they're tired of space, but they just can't commit. Or they want to commit, but they're afraid to get close. They want to get close, you don't want to get near them.”


_____________________________

"Power is real. But it's a lot less real if it's not perceived as power."
Robert Parker, Stranger in Paradise

(in reply to DemonKia)
Profile   Post #: 48
RE: ~~I'm Single & You're Single, Lets be Single togeth... - 4/24/2009 5:25:07 PM   
DemonKia


Posts: 5521
Joined: 10/13/2007
From: Chico, Nor-Cali
Status: offline
Oh. Excellent place to bring in another thought I had about this conversation:

Sometimes some people are more into collecting memories than they are into actually having relationships, in that moment, that relationship, that lifetime, whatever . . . . .. Ya get my drift, I hope . . . .

& or maybe even most of us at least once in a while use the ability to convert current conflict into future funny anecdote to get thru the sometimes unavoidably painful nows . . . . . . ..

Hmmmmmm . . . . . *peers into the chasm, ponders*

(in reply to catize)
Profile   Post #: 49
RE: ~~I'm Single & You're Single, Lets be Single togeth... - 4/24/2009 7:00:45 PM   
ShiftedJewel


Posts: 2492
Joined: 12/2/2004
Status: offline
Admittedly I didn't read all the responses but I'm gonna throw in my two cents anyway.
 
I met Scooter through a different site, our profiles didn't match up, I had always dated younger men and he had always dated older women. I had always been attracted to tall men (six foot or better) and he's 5'10", I wasn't ever really attracted to blonds, he never really wanted to date a red head. And to make matters worse, he's a Virgo and I swore after living with one for too long and marrying another one that I would never have anything to do with a Virgo again. According to the website we should have never even said hello, let alone date. So why did we? Well, I've never met a Mike I didn't just adore and I was from his home town, well, at least where he spent most of his time growing up. Our first date went well but there were no sparks, at least not for me. But he was fun to talk to so we kept talking. After a second date we figured, what the hell, if nothing else we could be fuck buddies. Sorry about the bluntness there... Anyway.... we spent a long weekend together after which he dropped me off at work. That was a Sunday. We talked on Monday and Tuesday he came over after he got off of work and picked me, and all my stuff, up, and I moved in with him. That's been about seven years ago. Our devotion to each other is complete, we don't have harsh words between us, we don't argue or get angry with each other, he is sincerely my best friend, my confidante', my soul mate and the guy that everything said I shouldn't even say hello to.
 
You can go out looking for what it is that you THINK you want, and you may even find it. Then you wonder what happened when you discover that it wasn't what you wanted after all. If one relationship after another is failing then you need to keep in mind the one common denominator and maybe you'll come to realize that what it is that you think you want is only something you would like to want but don't really, it just sounds good on paper. Step outside the box and you may be surprised!!
 
Jewel

_____________________________

Don't ask, trust me, you won't like the answer... no one ever does.

(in reply to agirl)
Profile   Post #: 50
RE: ~~I'm Single & You're Single, Lets be Single togeth... - 4/28/2009 9:52:48 AM   
justgemmie


Posts: 246
Joined: 8/24/2008
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

quote:

ORIGINAL: justgemmie

quote:

ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah
... I get that looks are important but you know I find the shallow nature of some individuals to border on the reverse narcissistic, where you essentially judge your own worth on how attractive your partner is....Steel


greetings Steel  :)

i haven't even read the rest of Your post yet, let alone the rest of this thread.  however, that simple statement above is how i lived my life from the time i was probably about 15 until i was in my mid- to late-40s.  talk about no self-esteem or at least not much of it.  it has taken my entire adult life to learn my worth is based on me and not on who i'm with.  it stunned me to read it here.

just wanted to share that,
gemmie


And THIS is why I start these threads. gemmie I would LOVE to know what the though process was in thinking this way. I am Glad that today you have self esteem and know your own worth but I am curious as to what the rational though process was behind this particular though pattern of your partner being the measure of your worth and was it difficult to handle the end of a relationship, I would assume from this you rarely terminated a relationship however I may be wrong. Sorry I just have never had someone admit this behavior and have always been curious as to how it starts and what the events that cause this behavior to end are.

There have been other posters who illicited the same thought process or peaked my curiosity but because I was late getting back to the thread I lost what I thought was a proper window to ask the question without it being returned lobsided.

Steel


greetings Steel

sorry about how long it took to write this.  the other day when my post was deleted by my computer …grrrrrr    i was so frustrated!  but then the weekend came and my Man has left for a month for work and we had to prepare for that and yada yada  J   but i have some time here at work so i’ll do my best to answer You.

it’s easy to remember how it started.  as a little girl, when i started riding the bus in first grade (and perhaps even before that with the neighborhood kids), being a chubby girl i was given those wonderful nicknames that kids give – rosie rear, donut, fatso, ugly, etc., and wasn’t liked or wanted by my idea of who the “cool” kids were.  now don’t get me wrong, i had friends, and did stuff, had good parents, and all that.  my childhood was pretty cool generally.  but i let what some others thought of me affect how i thought of me ….. and i believed with all my heart (for most of my life) that my being over-weight made me unlovable, unattractive, unwanted, uncool – think of an “un” and that was me.  and i wanted to be liked and popular and stuff.  all kids do.

so, as time went by, and i got older (around 14-15ish), i found i had something that guys liked …. pussy.  and i found that they would spend time with me, and talk to me, and like me for a little while, if i gave it up.  so i gave it up – a lot.  but only to cool or cute men.  see, it worked both ways in my mind.  whether i liked the guy or not, if he was an “un” – unpopular, un-cool, un-cute, un-etc., then i couldn’t be with him, for everyone would then know i couldn’t do any better than that because i was un-whatever.  i missed out on some really fantastic men because of this ......

and i was like that for years.  of course i grew older and found other ways of covering or hiding my low or non-existent self esteem ~  i drank and eventually i did drugs, still all the while being waaay easy.  i was not able to find the good in me.  i mean, i knew i was ok and pretty cool - but that was irrelevant compared to the fact that i was fat – no one likes fat chicks; hence, i was not liked by those i thought i wanted to be around.  i simply could not fathom that people might be attracted to me, for any other reason.  although i have had great and fantastic people in my life, i always took to heart the mean or hateful things said by a few, and based the way i saw myself on those things.

as to handling the end of relationships, well, i didn’t have many to handle the end of.  “they” say that we make our own reality.  i believe that.  i believed that hawt or cool or wonderful Men wouldn’t like me so i worked very hard, subconsciously, to make sure that was a truth.  i always had a reason or 6 that Man X and i couldn’t be together, self-fulfilling my belief that i wasn’t wanted (cause i was fat).  and i have always been the first one to cry and wonder why they don’t like me   lol   geesh.  there were several fantastic Dominants, early in my lifestyle life – that pointed out how i pushed them away and had all kinds of reasons we couldn’t/wouldn’t/shouldn’t work out.

the really sad part here (to me) is in looking back, at pictures and at my life, granted i have been chubby, overweight, or thick -- but in my head i was so huge ……. i wasted a good half of my life wrapped up in that and unable to live life to it’s fullest.  ….. awww well, anyway …….

as to how i got out of that circular life-changing thinking.  in my late 30s i married a fine looking, good man (which allowed me to learn just a little that i was ok too).  and was happy for a lot of years.  but things happened and times changed, and when i was in my late 40s i found i wanted ……… something more, or perhaps something different.  and i was not happy at home.  we argued and bickered a lot, and i didn’t want that all my life.  so i left my husband and found alt.com one day on line.  learning of this lifestyle changed my life.

i can’t tell you exactly what it is that changed my outlook since i found bdsm, except that perhaps i met folks that are ok with themselves and i can see that.  and perhaps part of it is that i have found a part of myself, my submission and slight masochism, and it’s been ok that i am me.  perhaps part of it is that some really, really fine Men have been interested in me and They had not problem one with my weight (so maybe i’m not so bad)?

it hasn’t been perfect of course.  can’t tell you how many times i’ve gotten nasty emails about my CM pics and how fat i am, or any number of other things.  but <shrugs>  screw ‘em.  i’m pretty cool today  J

well, there You have it.  a short bit of my life which personally seems kinda boring --- but you asked for it  :D

be well,
gemmie


_____________________________

"Being a Master to somebody or a slave to somebody is a relationship bound status. Without the relationship the status does not exist and all that is there is the potential or the natural inclination to fulfill such a status in the future." ~ ishyB

(in reply to SteelofUtah)
Profile   Post #: 51
Page:   <<   < prev  1 2 [3]
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> General BDSM Discussion >> RE: ~~I'm Single & You're Single, Lets be Single together!!~~ Page: <<   < prev  1 2 [3]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.078