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yourMissTress -> RE: comming out (2/2/2006 7:00:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: foxglove716 Was just wondering... would you like to see the BDSM scene gain widespread social acceptance or do you like that it is somewhat taboo? Widespread social acceptance? I'm sure it would be lovely for those in our community that have high profile professions and feel the need to keep their chosen lifestyle secretive because of the social stigma they perceive. While I don't carry a riding crop in my hands when walking through the grocery store, I'm not secretive at all about my lifestyle. As for me, I could care less. I accept, embrace and love who and what I am. I need not look to others for approval.

Sartoris32801 -> RE: comming out (2/2/2006 7:23:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: foxglove716 Was just wondering... would you like to see the BDSM scene gain widespread social acceptance or do you like that it is somewhat taboo? If widespread acceptance led to knowledge, knowledge led to understanding and elimination of a perspective that we as a group are “sick demented deviants” yes. Anything that can weaken the “moral majority” I am all in favor of. They are in fact the sick demented deviants. Sartoris

SweetEscravo -> RE: comming out (2/2/2006 8:17:29 AM)
The only real fear I have with the idea of BDSM becoming "non-taboo" is that it will become a trend. I teach 8th graders and there are some in my class and that I see around the school who wear collars, or other typical bondage articals, and who have no idea what they are doing. I sometimes worry that this image will become cool- just look at stores like Hot Topic that sell bondage pants, handcuffs, and all sorts of things to kids who don't know what they actually mean. Students in high school do this too...I used to know many people who wore collars or bondage clothes, but when I would causually ask something about the scene, they would be caught off gaurd and usually have a response like "what the hell" or "thats sick". I don't think that the BDSM scene needs to "come out" just because the rest of the world doesn't need to worry about what we are doing with our free time as consenting adults.

thetammyjo -> RE: comming out (2/2/2006 8:27:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: foxglove716 Was just wondering... would you like to see the BDSM scene gain widespread social acceptance or do you like that it is somewhat taboo? Frankly I don't care if its accepted or not. In general I think folks shouldn't be so concerned with others' adult personal lives unless its non-consensual or one of the people involve is in danger, goes to the hospital or calls the cops. I think its really sad that some folks seem more concerned about consenting adults doing things than they are about abuse and domestic violence and rape and murder. I am very sad that so many people are afraid to just be themselves because they fear persecution or legal problems or social problems but let's be honest, many "minority" groups feel this way. And these "minority" groups seem to be some of the folks bitching about other "minorities" the loudest at times (some of the most nasty anti-SM stuff has come from the lesbian community for example). Not really answering your question, am I? I will live my life as I do but I it would be nice that I could give my slave legal and social safety recognitions like I can and do for my husband or a offspring. There are things we could that would fudge with legal stuff but I don't personally feel it is the same thing. Mostly I try to be myself and be honest about myself when asked either on a personal, individual level or to classrooms/conventions.

yourMissTress -> RE: comming out (2/2/2006 8:31:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SweetEscravo The only real fear I have with the idea of BDSM becoming "non-taboo" is that it will become a trend. I teach 8th graders and there are some in my class and that I see around the school who wear collars, or other typical bondage articals, and who have no idea what they are doing. I sometimes worry that this image will become cool- just look at stores like Hot Topic that sell bondage pants, handcuffs, and all sorts of things to kids who don't know what they actually mean. Students in high school do this too...I used to know many people who wore collars or bondage clothes, but when I would causually ask something about the scene, they would be caught off gaurd and usually have a response like "what the hell" or "thats sick". I don't think that the BDSM scene needs to "come out" just because the rest of the world doesn't need to worry about what we are doing with our free time as consenting adults. Umm, you are what...5 years older than these "students" you are so concerned about? And you claim to have begun your interest in the lifestyle at their age...why was it ok for you and not them? As a teacher? of these 8th graders and as an adult talking to minors, it's quite inappropriate for you to make any comments to them about the scene. The collars and leashes are a common goth accessory and bear little to no BDSM signifigance to them, it's simply shock value. Hand cuffs and the like are hardly limited to ONLY BDSM use.

IceyOne -> RE: comming out (2/2/2006 8:32:12 AM)
I could care less one way or another. My life is my own, I don't advertise it for all to see, but neither do I hide it.

KnightofMists -> RE: comming out (2/2/2006 10:18:21 AM)
I guess for those that seek social acceptance they would love it that this lifestyle became more apart of the mainstream of society. I woul expect a great majority wouldn't care one way or the other. We are who we are and social acceptance or rejection will not change that. I am content with who I am and what enjoy, the acceptance of the lifestyle is of no concern to me.

DragonNphoenix -> RE: comming out (2/4/2006 8:51:57 PM)
I fear that if it became 'socially acceptable' that it would become 'trendy' and then we would have more wannabes then we do now. 1st Girl Phoenix

NeedToUseYou -> RE: comming out (2/4/2006 11:32:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: foxglove716 Was just wondering... would you like to see the BDSM scene gain widespread social acceptance or do you like that it is somewhat taboo? I'm not really sure what you mean. Are you talking about going out in public in leather and whips. Or being able to say this is my Master and I'm his Slave. Or being able to talk about your sexual fetishes to people? Really I'd say no on all accounts. It's a lifestyle for some, a once a week thing for others, and a million variations in between. BDSM isn't really one thing, it's a million things to a million different people. At least that the conclusion I've come to reading the boards. If you read the board alot, even common things like the meaning of being collared is very diverse. Some say it's just for play, some say it's like getting married, etc..... Or, what's the role of a sub, is debated. So, there isn't really a clear definition of what the public would be accepting. It could be anything from that outfit looks hot like the high schoolers to, I want to be a sex slave and served up as my Master sees fit. Huge gap there in meaning of BDSM to different people. I mean I accept some peoples right on here to do things that are way out there for my personal tastes. BDSM has become a catchall, for casual dress up play on the weekends to full time toilet slave. Good Luck, I even have a hard time understanding toilet slaves. So, no I don't think it should become mainstream, simply because the variation and meaning is to broad. The meaning of Master to you will invariably be different than anothers.

iheartperverts -> RE: comming out (2/4/2006 11:38:21 PM)
Honestly, I wish it were widely accepted. It would make a lot of difficult decisions much easier. Like what will I tell my kids? what should I tell my parents? what about my best friends? what about my church? etc etc So many conflicts I see in my own life would be resolved. I know that what happens between me and my partner is no one else's business, but I still feel the same.

gbgirlz2003 -> RE: comming out (2/5/2006 4:33:25 AM)
It is already "out" too much for me. I hate that what I take seriously is now a part of a "trend". Have you picked up a copy of W lately? Or Vogue? Or Vanity Fair? They are loaded with fashion cues taken from bdsm. Look at the people on these forums; cyber domination? yuk. Clueless morons acting like "masters"? I think I will go back and hide some more.

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