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RE: Cold Feet or Common Rudeness - 2/6/2006 8:07:15 PM

Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: theRose4U

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Without a signature it's not a valid transaction. I lost a good deal of money by people buying from Diversified Services and then claiming they never placed the order. Without a signature the credit card companies always found in their favor even if I had a UPS delivery confirmation. Once more, when this "chargeback" happens, it goes as a black mark on the seller's record and too many mean you lose your ability to accept credit cards.

What about an "application" sheet that states medical history, scene desires and a signature approving a deposit? I would assume that amount dates and times as well as explaination of the cancelation policy as well as how many sessions are required for no deposit. Faxed in copy on site, in theory, should get around the transaction issue John mentions above.

you could just call it consulting for instance put an order number on it, x number of hours at x cost, non refundable deposit, fax it to them, have them sign it and fax it back. only problem is that you have no way to verify their signature so if you really wanted to nail them down you would need them to copy the back side of the card with their signature on it and fax that too. it would get pretty messy in the end. and then there is still gaurantee they cant reverse it but that is about the max you can do.

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RE: Cold Feet or Common Rudeness - 2/6/2006 10:05:43 PM

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Cold feet or common rudeness? Probably a varied combination of both. Unfortunately, the masses of rude and self-absorbed people in our society grows daily.

While you may not desire to implement a deposit system, it's probably in your best interests to do so. For new clients, you might want to consider imposing a small deposit requirement of $20 or $25 to reserve your time for them. You can always increase this amount later, after you've built up your clientele.

My guess is that prospective customers who balk at this token amount of deposit money are not likely to value or respect your time anyway. I also believe that asking for a small deposit may help you demonstrate that you value your own time, and that you are not hungry for business... which may be even more helpful towards your goal. At the very least, you'll be weeding out more of those unsure, scared guys whose calls are primarily motivated by their impulsive emotions.

It would probably behoove you to offer a cash payment option for these deposits. All you'll need is a P.O. Box to implement this.

Some years ago, I knew a local Domme who offered online training for clients who lived outside of her immediate area. Her only method of accepting payment from these clients for her services was cash sent to her P.O. Box. She claimed that this worked quite well for her. Maybe it would work well for you too.

Good luck!

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RE: Cold Feet or Common Rudeness - 2/6/2006 11:00:45 PM

veronicaofML

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Some years ago, I knew a local Domme who offered online training for clients who lived outside of her immediate area. Her only method of accepting payment from these clients for her services was cash sent to her P.O. Box. She claimed that this worked quite well for her. Maybe it would work well for you too.

Good luck!
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oh no no no no

paypal and such..its IMMEDIATE payment

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RE: Cold Feet or Common Rudeness - 2/7/2006 12:04:04 AM

Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

no it is a discrimanatory site that allows only sex businesses to advertize for free

*Momentarily taking back the comment in another thread that I would not care to engage RealOne in any thread*

Please understand that I am being very polite here. I have just finished quickly reviewing the TOS that would apply to this statement.

I do not see anywhere a clause that states one is not allowed to advertise their business, provided it is a business that does not fall under certain guidelines, i.e. hacking into the collarme system would be an example.
You spend so much time posting, have you ever considered that?
I post My website, My niteflit pages. John Warren posts his. Jasmyn does. Aakasha does. Lady Sonelle does. Many of us do this. Do you pay attention?
So, depending on what you do for a living, I see no reason why you cannot subtly advertise. Example: Are you an attorney? A Doctor? An accountant? There may be people on this site who are in your local area who might be interested in learning more of your business through private correspondence, and then may elect to become a client/patient (whatever) because they like you, you have a good rep, and they would prefer to use the services of someone who is kink aware and kink friendly. In a profile, even a Pro Dom/me is not permitted to post a phone number, email address or website link. But there are other ways.
Or take some positive action. Talk to the site (support) and ask if there is a way for those who might be interested to post links to appropriate vanilla business sites, or to post like the Professional Dominants and submissives do. Maybe, if enough people are willing to be more "out", the site could make space available for attorneys, doctors, masseuses, chefs, auto mechanics, plumbers, and any number of businesses. It is not the site's responsibility to detemirne if you render good service. It is always up to the individual to do their own due diligence. But I am willing to bet that most people are very *discreet* and would not want to use this site to more openly advertise. So I am guessing (not to be rude) that your complaint is an empty one. Do you really wish you could advertise your business through this site? If so, there are ways you can do that.
I have had Doctors, people well versed in alternative medicine, and submissives who are good web designers (just as a few examples) contact Me regarding working with Me in some of these areas . One lovely boy purchased a special type of massage for Me for My birthday as he was aware I have certain types of headaches, and he really searched for someone local to Me so he could treat Me to this surprise. Note, this is someone I have known for quite some time through these boards and occasional correspondece. I did not ask for it, and it was a total surprise. Had he known of someone with this type of business in My area, I am willing to bet he would have corresponded, checked the person out, and, if he felt confident, made the purchase from them.
This is an alternative lifestyle site. It lends itself to advertisements for Professional services in this arena. If you don't want that, just pass it by. There will be the Ladies who come on as if completely lifestyle, and then flip over the "tribute proves sincerity trump card". But it usually happens pretty quickly, so again, move on! I move on, all the time. Dominas are treated like fetish life support, sometimes dozen of times each day.
But the way you continue to harp on this issue, complain and whine, is not going to raise you up in anybody's eyes. So maybe it is better that we don't know what business you are in. We might go out of our way to not consider your services. Nobody wants to work with a whiner.
Why do you do this to yourself? Do you hear yourself? Do you know how miserably negative you sound?
Somebody once made the statement that each time you post on the board, it is a subtle advertisement. I had never thought of that. But is is very true. Even if one is only advertising a personality and thoughts and opinions, it is quite telling.
Think about what you are advertising, RealOne, each time you come onto these boards and begin another negative, whiney, complaining, tantrum-like, rant. It's even worse when people try to engage you in polite and logical debate and you become even more nasty and defensive. It is not attractive.
Now, again being very sincere, I am quite intersted to see if and how you respond to this post. Are you "boy* enough to take a good, long look at yourself?
Apologizes to all...For Me, this debate is over!
*Gets off soap box*

one teenee weenee smigin of a problem with your post. i was talking about the pros advertizing that they are a pro on profiles. that point has never changed. i know i can put one up here where .001% see it as compared to the profiles. the forum here is not a profile! but thanks anyway

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RE: Cold Feet or Common Rudeness - 2/7/2006 5:06:06 AM

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paypal and such..its IMMEDIATE payment

The problem with Paypal is that both the sender and receiver are shown REAL names as in how they appear on the credit card.

In a prodomme situation, that can be a downfall.

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RE: Cold Feet or Common Rudeness - 2/7/2006 8:21:28 AM

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I think this would lead to a reversal of the situation. Clients making deposits only to find out that not only does the contracted service never happen. But the lady makes up all manner of excuses. If she even replies to the clients inquiry.

In the event of using a credit card. Once the other party acquires the clients cedit card number, the client end up with several extra charges.

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RE: Cold Feet or Common Rudeness - 2/7/2006 8:34:58 AM

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Ah yes, the plight of growing old. Soon to claim the rocking chair, the older generation sees the next generation replace them on the dance floor of life. Removing all their trophies and photos from public view. Only to store them in some dusty dark corner of an attic crawl space. Never again to see the light of day.

As time marches on.

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RE: Cold Feet or Common Rudeness - 2/7/2006 10:08:23 AM

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You are obviously without any formal background in psychology or sociology. I happen to have the benefit of a degree in both as well as an extensive knowledge of philosophy and ethics. I do not say this to be boastful. I would encourage those involved in this community without the above mentioned knowledge to seek it out readily. The care and control of a servant's mind is the most efficient way to dominate. But I digress...

Claiming that the world we live in is strictly defined as yes or no, right or wrong, black or white, is a preposterous oversight to say the least. In every established system there is a margin for the unexpected and the newly discovered. Our judicial system continually evolves. The nature and expectations of our education is continually editted and refined. The definition of what is acceptable and what is taboo varies on an almost daily basis. Words like however, but, if, yet, ecetera are all designed to modify a seemingly solid answer. Yes, you unloaded the truck, however it became dark and you were made to retire. No, I was not involved yet I was informed of the situation. Yes, the submissive offered his tribute but only if he did not fulfill his task. Have you ever taken the time to listen to a presidential debate? Better yet, were you witness to the recent interviews of potential supreme court justices? Grey is present in every corner of our lives if you are able to see it. Let's take the most obvious of examples, a case continually debated in every sector of our society. Is abortion right or wrong? What if the woman was raped? In the event of a molested teenager, is the procedure acceptable? The preacher's wife? The reluctant drug user? Define their world in black and white, please..

As for the free lunch debate, I'm assuming the philosophy behind that is over your head. This is as elementary as it gets. Every effort, every service, every prize received comes at a price, however small. You may have given everyone and their mother money but it was not without some effort on their part. They had to know you, speak with you, discipline you, or at the very least accept it from you. The husband or wife benefitting seemingly undeservedly had a connection with you at some point. Moments of their life are forever intertwined with that of their former spouse. On the simplest of plains, an employer takes you for an expensive meal. What is their gain? Your time, attention and possible commitment. What is your payment? Your time, attention and possible commitment. And the circle continues...

This probably will not change your mind nor that of others. I really don't care. Those who chose to remain in the dark will always be at a disadvantage. That is the lose of you and all those you come in contact with.

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RE: Cold Feet or Common Rudeness - 2/7/2006 10:30:25 AM

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ORIGINAL: missnoir

As a pro femdomme, I am used to peaks and valleys when it comes to booking sessions and receiving tribute. However,as of late, business has come to a dead halt. In a period of two weeks, I have booked more than sixteen newcomers and have had a total of zero show up!

I know a lot of pro dommes take a deposit up fron but I am afraid of the effect this drastic step might have on business.I don't know what to do.Any advice you might have would be incredibly helpful.

Noir

Noir re-read your above two comments -take the deposit- it sounds like things couldn't be much worse business wise anyway.

Hope things turn around for you soon.

LthrdWolf

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RE: Cold Feet or Common Rudeness - 2/7/2006 10:39:57 AM

GoddessDustyGold

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

no it is a discrimanatory site that allows only sex businesses to advertize for free

I do not see anywhere a clause that states one is not allowed to advertise their business, provided it is a business that does not fall under certain guidelines, i.e. hacking into the collarme system would be an example.
You spend so much time posting, have you ever considered that?
I post My website, My niteflit pages. John Warren posts his. Jasmyn does. Aakasha does. Lady Sonelle does. Many of us do this. Do you pay attention?
So, depending on what you do for a living, I see no reason why you cannot subtly advertise. Example: Are you an attorney? A Doctor? An accountant? There may be people on this site who are in your local area who might be interested in learning more of your business through private correspondence, and then may elect to become a client/patient (whatever) because they like you, you have a good rep, and they would prefer to use the services of someone who is kink aware and kink friendly. In a profile, even a Pro Dom/me is not permitted to post a phone number, email address or website link. But there are other ways.
Or take some positive action. Talk to the site (support) and ask if there is a way for those who might be interested to post links to appropriate vanilla business sites, or to post like the Professional Dominants and submissives do. Maybe, if enough people are willing to be more "out", the site could make space available for attorneys, doctors, masseuses, chefs, auto mechanics, plumbers, and any number of businesses. It is not the site's responsibility to detemirne if you render good service. It is always up to the individual to do their own due diligence. But I am willing to bet that most people are very *discreet* and would not want to use this site to more openly advertise. So I am guessing (not to be rude) that your complaint is an empty one. Do you really wish you could advertise your business through this site? If so, there are ways you can do that.

one teenee weenee smigin of a problem with your post. i was talking about the pros advertizing that they are a pro on profiles. that point has never changed. i know i can put one up here where .001% see it as compared to the profiles. the forum here is not a profile! but thanks anyway

I thought I had been reasonably detailed in My explanation, but apparently not.
The Mods can correct Me if I am wrong here. In your profile on the other side, I don't believe there is anything in the TOS that states you cannot indicate your type of business and/or areas of expertise. Of course it would be important to have a profile in the first place. I am gathering you do have one, or more, but they are not under this particular user name.
For example:
"I am a certified public account", or perhaps,
I am a practicing aromatherapist and certified masseuse".
As bolded above,even a Pro Domina is not permitted to include a telephone number, web site, address, additional email addres, or anything of that nature in the profiles on the other side. However, many of us have websites, groups, blogs, etc. and we do link to those in our tag lines on the boards. For those who don't come to this area of the site, they are always free to email regarding the Professional services. I would suggest that the same would hold true of someone who would think to use this site as an additional venue of networking for business. Any business.
No site? Could you put in your tag line something along the lines of
"CPA available in the <insert general location here>"
I am not saying this is a big thing. But I do take issue with your accusation

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

no it is a discrimanatory site that allows only sex businesses to advertize for free

I don't believe that. Just because the nature of the site lends itself more easily to ads from Professional Dominas, does not mean that you should either resent it, or you shouldn't make an effort to be creative if you really want to advertise your own business.
Or perhaps I should run over to one of the aromatherapy or herbalists sites that have message boards and complain that I can't advertise My Pro Domina services. After all, I do light a scented candle. I guess I should be angry that they are now disciminating against Me? I would have a much greater problem trying to wiggle a Pro Domina ad into a vanilla site, than you would have here offering necessary vanilla sevices to your kinky community.
Are you ready to use this site as a networking venue for your vanilla business? If not, then I have to continue to wonder what the purpose of this accusation is.

< Message edited by GoddessDustyGold -- 2/7/2006 10:47:16 AM >

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RE: Cold Feet or Common Rudeness - 2/7/2006 10:41:37 AM

missnoir

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To Mich: the nameless, faceless, depictor of reality.

Thank you for responding to my post. People such as yourself are excellent fodder for late night amusement. I am an avid enthusiast of sarcasm and sharp wit. Unfortunately, yours was softened by the use of poor grammar and inproper spelling. I can understand why you are in disbelief of my age, considering at very least, I have a proper handle on sentence structure. Sorry to disappoint my dear, I have nothing to hide. My name, age, profession and photographs are all viable and up to date. Unlike you, I chose not to hide behind the veil of the anonymous.

I would have to disagree with your analysis of my post. I do not write under the premise of an emotional outburst. I read, contemplate and respond. That's what forums are designed to facilitate. The ideas, reactions, complaints and queries of those who share a common interest are the core reason members chose to become involved. I would, however, agree with your suggestion that perception is reality. Unfortunately, too many of us decide to base our perception of those around us on the most superficial of qualities.

Before becoming a professional femdomme, I was first a submissive. I served an exceptional mistress for almost two years. Upon being released, I became involved in my own relationships, none of which were tributed. When I realized that being a part of the career world I was involved in would greatly stifle my personal life and style, I decided to become a 24-7 lifestylist. I do what I do because I love it. I want every moment of my life to be as real and as close to my heart as possible. My profession, at present, allows that. So call me what you will, I call myself happy.

"May some day when god should choose to bless me. Give me a woman who knows what she likes and doesn't like. Isn't afraid to ask for what she wants. And will speak her mind, if only to let me know that she is a real, living, person with thoughts of her own."

Is this not the yearnings of your heart, splayed out on your profile like so much quasi-nauseating banter on the back of a harlequin romance cover? Oh, perhaps someone wrote it for you? No? Well then, when a lady of substance decides to become a professional femdomme, like myself and so many others, is she not speaking her mind?? Would it be accurate to say these women know what they want and are unfraid to pursue it? Maybe it's not them, but you, who is unsure of their desires.

I hope this "flame" was enough to give you the thrill I'm sure you rarely obtain. My sincerest wishes for your quest in obtaining the sweet embrace of your perfect goddess.

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RE: Cold Feet or Common Rudeness - 2/7/2006 11:39:23 AM

veronicaofML

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The care and control of a servant's mind is the most efficient way to dominate. But I digress...

Claiming that the world we live in is strictly defined as yes or no, right or wrong, black or white, is a preposterous oversight to say the least. In every established system there is a margin for the unexpected and the newly discovered.
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heyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Ladeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
and i use the word loosely...
i have no idea where YOU are going to find anyone that you can control...100%. we all have our free spirit..and free will. it's humanity at it's best.
and i got news for ya. you evidently AIN'T been in redneck territory coz where i come from...the judge asks one question...guilty or not guilty...and tells ya he aint got time for any song and dance lil sister.
where i come from...the world IS dominated by black and white.
there is NO room for sad songs and dancing around. EVERYONE i have EVER come across in my life...DEMANDS it... get it done and no excuses...do what you are told or else...
sorry ole girl but YOU aint been anywhere near MY world.
what you talk about sounds good on paper but it dont work...
RESULTS NO excuses
black and white
left or right
up or down
forward or backward
that IS my world...
i drove and owned a taxi for 20 yrs and not ONE customer accepted excuses...
i have driven tractor trailer coast to coast
not ONE dispatcher accepted excuses
my elders didnt take excuses or they'd knock ya outta your chair for looking cross ways at em.
my boot camp D.I didnt want to hear excuses....my tech sergeant didnt want excuses
or my captain
or the lieutenant
and i know DAMNED well the company C.O wasnt going to.

i dont know where YOU come from...nor do i care.

but good luck to ya any who way...k?

buh bye

< Message edited by veronicaofML -- 2/7/2006 11:40:53 AM >

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RE: Cold Feet or Common Rudeness - 2/7/2006 12:30:42 PM

missnoir

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For Veronica, a sadly underdeveloped submissive:

I would strongly question the skills of your current mistress. Either she is not doing her job or you are not complying. On what premise do you condescend my status as a lady or anything else for that matter. Because you have read a handful of replies on what appears to be your only connection to the real world, you are suddenly on level with those who are actually witness to my character? Your use of the english language is certainly indicative of your intelligence and your profile speaks silent volumes of your personality. It is sparse and wanting of actual substance. I feel pity for any person 52 years of age who shows no signs of actually gaining the wisdom of their surroundings. If anything, you have given me further motivation to strive for my goals and expand my horizons.

I'm sure I'm wasting my energy here but as for your argument, I only wish you had proved a formidable opponent. In general, what you listed were opposites. I'm glad to see you were paying attention during your sesame street years. Unfortunately, the moral arguments of right and wrong are a little more complex than right foot, left foot. You also seem to believe that excuses are somewhat intertwined with the process of determining right and wrong. Your school of thought is so ridiculously backward, I am almost left speechless. Telling a judge that you would not have murdered your spouse if only he would have been more attractive is an excuse. Telling a judge that your spouse was attempting to stab you and in turn you shot him causing his subsequent death is cause for deliberation. I apologize for being unable to employ Big Bird and Elmo to visualize this concept for you but I imagine your mind is already swarming with multi-colored creatures who will gladly come to your aid.

It seems that because you are almost thirty years my elder, you expect for my life experience to be at a minimum. Unfortunately for both you and I, that is not the case. I am a mother, a former wife and a college graduate. The courtroom is not an idealized sitcom fable in the back of my mind. I have stood before the judge and was most definetely not restricted to yes or no, guilty or not guilty. So unless Iowa or Wisconsin or wherever you may currently have burrowed your hole has an entirely different judicial system, I'm afraid your analysis of American justice is just a smidge off par.

Thank you for your paltry attempts to demean and your insincere wishes for my future. I can honestly say that if I were able to impart knowledge anywhere in your general direction, I gladly would. My only hope is that people such as yourself are few and far between. Might I suggest establishing some type of establishment or brotherhood for others with your resolve? An ensemble of those carrying the torch to further the spread of the one and only divine truth? Perhaps, you could call it, I don't know, a cult? Try google searching "David Koresh". I'm sure you'll find ample inspiration in his undeniable like-mindedness in everything you have perpetuated here.

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RE: Cold Feet or Common Rudeness - 2/7/2006 12:36:02 PM

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Veronica, you are really confusing Me.
Everytime it seems you are making some progress you jump into something and contradict yourself.
By your own admission you do not have 2 nickels to rub together. You are a live-in domestic who turns his monthly disability check over to his Mistress. No questions, no negotiation. This was your agreement and you don't seem to have a problem with the arrangement.
I would think you would be able to see that different agreements work for different relationships.
And I know your first Ms was a Pro Domme.
All missnoir is stating, basically, is that everthing is not set in stone (not black and white, not yes or no. Yet a poster will come into this thread and tell her she is wrong, wrong, wrong.
You are proof positive that all things are not black and white. Else I would expect that your blue collar background and your redneck attitudes (your descriptions of yourself, not Mine) would be leading down a completely different path. For it is not usual for one with your societal attitudes to not only have a Mistress, but turn all income over to her every single month.
So what exactly was it about missnoir's post that ruffled your feathers?

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Don't blame Me ~ I didn't vote for either of them
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RE: Cold Feet or Common Rudeness - 2/7/2006 1:08:21 PM

veronicaofML

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So what exactly was it about missnoir's post that ruffled your feathers?
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yo'kay
1st Ms Gold
that ole girl has got the idea that it's okay to have an excuse...NOT!
where i come from,...only children have excuses. no self respecting matured adult,,,with any portion of sense given to a horse...would understand there ARE times in this world NO excuses are accepted.
if you want to listen to children whine and carry on--go ahead and listen to the excuses.
ME?
hell friggen no.
i was taught to walk like a man...and show results...w/o ANY excuses.
this ole gal got it in her head she is god's gift...and i divorced 3 of those.
i have yet to see one walk on water...all mouth and no action.

and to that ole girl calls herself ms noir..
do the words "bite me" mean anything to ya sister?
if YOU are going to sit there...running your mouth,.,.telling the world..YOU accept excuses????
oh kay
that MEANS if some poor schmuck subbie boy decides he aint gonna do what ya told him to..and hands ya an excuse...YOU are gonna put up with it????????
don't lie to me.
i aint stupid.

no one accepts excuses lady.

now....without further b.s.
i am like, so outta here...
buh bye

p/s

if i AM 30 yrs your senior...didnt mamma tell you to respect your elders?

< Message edited by veronicaofML -- 2/7/2006 1:10:13 PM >

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RE: Cold Feet or Common Rudeness - 2/7/2006 1:19:52 PM

GoddessDustyGold

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quote:

ORIGINAL: veronicaofML

So what exactly was it about missnoir's post that ruffled your feathers?
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yo'kay
1st Ms Gold
that ole girl has got the idea that it's okay to have an excuse...NOT!

Wow...I must have missed something about the "ok to have an excuse" part. It all seemed pretty logical to Me.

< Message edited by GoddessDustyGold -- 2/7/2006 1:20:28 PM >

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RE: Cold Feet or Common Rudeness - 2/7/2006 2:06:51 PM

veronicaofML

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Unfortunately, the moral arguments of right and wrong are a little more complex than right foot, left foot. You also seem to believe that excuses are somewhat intertwined with the process of determining right and wrong. Your school of thought is so ridiculously backward, I am almost left speechless. Telling a judge that you would not have murdered your spouse if only he would have been more attractive is an excuse. Telling a judge that your spouse was attempting to stab you and in turn you shot him causing his subsequent death is cause for deliberation. I apologize for being unable to employ Big Bird and Elmo to visualize this concept for you but I imagine your mind is already swarming with multi-colored creatures who will gladly come to your aid.

It seems that because you are almost thirty years my elder, you expect for my life experience to be at a minimum.
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here Dusty.
she says excuses are okay
no one has the right to make an excuse to take a life...
there are doors to every building...and no one should be stupid enough to put themselves IN that situation.
and then she admits she has less time in life than i got in the john..and she is gonna tell ME about it????

yeah--right

she needs to get dry behind the ears first before she can lay claim to knowing anything.
i'm old enough to be daddy if not grand daddy

she's just like an alligator
all mouth
no sense

BTW? hey yo noir
i am NOT one of your normal slavey boys...
i am a free lance unattached service only hired hand

stick that in your purse and take it to the bank sister

< Message edited by veronicaofML -- 2/7/2006 2:08:54 PM >

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RE: Cold Feet or Common Rudeness - 2/7/2006 2:18:54 PM

veronicaofML

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"Never give up...Never surrender" (motto of GalaxyQuest)
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or like my DI said

no retreat no surrender and take no prisoners

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RE: Cold Feet or Common Rudeness - 2/7/2006 2:42:34 PM

GoddessDustyGold

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quote:

ORIGINAL: veronicaofML

Unfortunately, the moral arguments of right and wrong are a little more complex than right foot, left foot. You also seem to believe that excuses are somewhat intertwined with the process of determining right and wrong. Your school of thought is so ridiculously backward, I am almost left speechless. Telling a judge that you would not have murdered your spouse if only he would have been more attractive is an excuse. Telling a judge that your spouse was attempting to stab you and in turn you shot him causing his subsequent death is cause for deliberation. I apologize for being unable to employ Big Bird and Elmo to visualize this concept for you but I imagine your mind is already swarming with multi-colored creatures who will gladly come to your aid.

It seems that because you are almost thirty years my elder, you expect for my life experience to be at a minimum.
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here Dusty.
she says excuses are okay
no one has the right to make an excuse to take a life...
there are doors to every building...and no one should be stupid enough to put themselves IN that situation.
and then she admits she has less time in life than i got in the john..and she is gonna tell ME about it????

yeah--right

she needs to get dry behind the ears first before she can lay claim to knowing anything.
i'm old enough to be daddy if not grand daddy

she's just like an alligator
all mouth
no sense

BTW? hey yo noir
i am NOT one of your normal slavey boys...
i am a free lance unattached service only hired hand

stick that in your purse and take it to the bank sister

I do understand where you are coming from, Veronica.
However, I would view it more as extenuating circumstances which might mitigate the wrong.
Since you were in the military I would give you the example of:

quote:

or like my DI said

no retreat no surrender and take no prisoners

Bascially your DI was teaching you to kill rather than retreat, or surrender. That is what the term "take no prisoners" means. Yet some would call those who will not retreat, will not surrender, and refuse to take prisoners, murderers. Do you agree that in certain circumstances, something that is considered morally and legally wrong, can be acceptable? For instance, in the case of self-defense: Everybody can't always keep themselves out of a situation or avoid all possiiblities. Sometimes a decision has to be made.
At any rate, this has been taken way off track. The main point was that all circumstances are not set in stone. There is not necessarily a black or white in all instances. Your black and white might be somebody's else's gray.
Hope this helps.

**edited to add: A gentle reminder, here. You are not a "freelance unattached service only hired hand", if you call your Lady, Mistress, and you turn your disability check over to Her each month. People who are hired, are generally paid or receive something in barter. You do receive room & board, but it seems you are also paying for that. You may consider yourself freelance if you feel that you can walk away at any time the circumstances no longer suit you, but any slave or submissive has the same freedom to ask for release, or even simply state they are leaving.
You are, in fact, in an active D/s or M/s relationship. The fact that your Lady is married does not change your role as a submissive or a slave.

< Message edited by GoddessDustyGold -- 2/7/2006 2:50:02 PM >

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Dusty
They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety
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Don't blame Me ~ I didn't vote for either of them
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RE: Cold Feet or Common Rudeness - 2/7/2006 3:26:44 PM

talmar

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I am friends with several pro Dommes. They usually make it plainly known that if someone wastes there time like that they will be baned. Maybe state that clearly on your website or in your ads that time wasters will not be tolerated.

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