angelikaJ -> RE: Robert A. Heinlein (5/1/2009 8:04:00 PM)
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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ Here's the thing though, in context, what he meant was vastly different. In addition to handling any profession that a man was capable of, Heinlein revered women because [we] also give birth and nurse babies and run the home. That's exactly what Peon just said, angelikaJ. He just didn't try to romanticize it into some kind of "special privilege" to serve as broodstock, be powerless to participate in the economy or in politics, and serve as a slave in the household as an additional benefit. Bob and other men like him can keep their "special privileges" for women who enjoy submitting to them. Me, I'll take equal rights, equal pay and equal opportunity, thanks--along with the equal responsibilities that go with them. Nor am I going to take it solely upon my shoulders to raise the children and clean up everyone's mess. I'll take equality, and without a side order of shit sandwiches, thanks. By force, if necessary. Respectfully: Actually, that is not what he said. What he said was "..."Yes, precisely! Women are so special and talented at staying at home and bringing up children. They're also just so fab at cleaning, tidying and ironing lovely creases in men's shirts. They should be duly adored, nay, worshipped, for doing just that!"." And of all the adjectives I might consider as they pertain to the majority of the women in Heinlein's stories "powerless" would not be one of them. I do understand the potential trap of this extention of thought: "What was worse was that the view that women could be all those things began to change such that they had to be all those things. As so often, oppression through the back door, disguised as compliment or even adoration. Finally, though, people began to argue, "hold on, there are only 24 hours in a day!" "
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