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justxjess -> Some questions from a new sub (5/1/2009 9:01:19 AM)

As I am still a bit too shy to just even post an introduction, I am just going to ask what is on my mind.  i hope that is all right :)

1.)  I am quite shy in real life with people I don't know very well and even with people I do.  Its difficult for me to even chat one on one with someone on here and progressing to steps beyond that seem daunting.  However I am serious about exploring this.  I am just very shy and very afraid of doing something wrong.  How do I get over the shyness?  How do I get over the fear of doing/saying the wrong thing?

2.)  Speaking of chatting one on one, do more people chat together through this website or another?  Would it be better to use Yahoo or something similar?

3.)  Without going into a detailed introduction, I have researched this lifestyle since I was 13 (I am now 24) and felt as if it applied So Much to me.  Its almost terrifyingly fulfilling to me;  I have felt calmer and happier and more secure with my footing in the world since I dove in head first.  My question:  How can I incorporate this into my everyday life without a M/D?  Is there a way to do so?  (I hope that made sense [&:] )

Thank you so much for reading and hopefully replying.  If there is a better place to post this please let me know, and I apologize in advance for any bad grammar or weird word choices;  I am nervous!   [sm=hearts.gif]




oceanwinds -> RE: Some questions from a new sub (5/1/2009 9:13:53 AM)

Hi justxjess
Welcome to Cm
Congrats on being able to start a post:). I use to be very shy, and still have a problem at times. The best method for me is to force myself to do things, even when I am scared. Also what helped me is to realize most people are self-conscious of themselves and aren't paying that much attention to me. Knowing this, I started to focus on others to make them comfortable. This helped me to become people focus verses me focus. Maybe that will help you?

As far as talking to people here etc. I am really of no help. I just am here to read and post on the message boards.

You took the first step, so be proud of you:)
oceanwinds




justxjess -> RE: Some questions from a new sub (5/1/2009 9:24:34 AM)

you are so sweet and your words helped me so much!  What an amazingly simple idea:  focusing on others wont give me time to feel self-conscious because I wont be thinking of me.  Thanks again, oceanwinds.  




Apocalypso -> RE: Some questions from a new sub (5/1/2009 9:27:56 AM)

Welcome to CM.  [:D]

quote:

ORIGINAL: justxjess

As I am still a bit too shy to just even post an introduction, I am just going to ask what is on my mind.  i hope that is all right :)

1.)  I am quite shy in real life with people I don't know very well and even with people I do.  Its difficult for me to even chat one on one with someone on here and progressing to steps beyond that seem daunting.  However I am serious about exploring this.  I am just very shy and very afraid of doing something wrong.  How do I get over the shyness?  How do I get over the fear of doing/saying the wrong thing?


I think it may be a case of learning to live with the shyness, at least at first.  It's obviously part of who you are.  So the trick is still being able to function.

Have you considered maybe trying something to help outside of BDSM?  I notice from your profile you enjoy writing.  Maybe try and find a writers' group near you?  Any hobby will work though, whether sports, salsa dancing or whatever.  As long as it isn't solitary.  Because obviously you want to get more used to being able to socially interact with people you don't know that well yet.

In terms of specifically meeting people from here, it's always best to have the first meeting in a public place.  Do you have a favourite coffee shop or anything like that?  Being able to meet somewhere that feels like home turf may help with the nerves.

The other big thing to remember is that Doms ar e human beings too.  Even if they're better at hiding it, any Dom meeting up with you for the first time is also going to be really nervous beforehand.

quote:

2.)  Speaking of chatting one on one, do more people chat together through this website or another?  Would it be better to use Yahoo or something similar?


It's entirely up to personal preference.  My pattern is generally to move from here to MSN messenger to the phone to a face to face meeting, but other people may do it differently.  The main thing is not to feel pressurised to give out your IM contact details until you're comfortable doing so.  There's absolutely nothing wrong with keeping contact on here until you're ready to move elsewhere.

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3.)  Without going into a detailed introduction, I have researched this lifestyle since I was 13 (I am now 24) and felt as if it applied So Much to me.  Its almost terrifyingly fulfilling to me;  I have felt calmer and happier and more secure with my footing in the world since I dove in head first.  My question:  How can I incorporate this into my everyday life without a M/D?  Is there a way to do so?  (I hope that made sense [&:] )


Absolutely, at least as far as I'm concerned.  In the same way somebody is still gay in everyday life if they're single.  You've actually made a very good start at incorporating this into your life with this post.  (Which I appreciate must have been intimidating for you to make).  So, for now, I'd carry on with that.  Read the boards and see different people's experiences and opinions.  And feel very free to contribute to any discussions that catch your interest.





subangi -> RE: Some questions from a new sub (5/1/2009 9:30:01 AM)

Sometimes hooking up with a fellow submissive can be more helpful in the stage you are in, especially if there is one near you. 
I was once in your shoes, and i truly understand the shyness involved.   




justxjess -> RE: Some questions from a new sub (5/1/2009 10:01:15 AM)

thank You so much for taking the time to write such a detailed reply.  please know it is much appreciated :)




DesFIP -> RE: Some questions from a new sub (5/1/2009 10:40:27 AM)

If the shyness is overwhelming, to the point that it effects your ability to manage in daily life, then consult a professional about treatment for social anxiety.

Beyond that, go at a pace that feels comfortable for you. You could start by posting here and getting used to talking to several different people through the forums. You can do no more than read and respond to emails for a while. You don't have to move straight into chat or coffee dates or exchanging phone numbers. But it is helpful if you tell anyone you think you want to keep talking to about your problem. Otherwise they may interpret your shyness as disinterest.




ranja -> RE: Some questions from a new sub (5/1/2009 11:17:51 AM)

Yes, go dancing...ceroc (modern jive, do a search on the net)...it is great, modern music, the staff are great and there will be lots of men who will be happy to lead you, it is very very good fun...you won't have to talk much at all because you will be concentrating on your moves and following.

Also like Des said, just answer emails...it is a nice slow pace, no pressure

Good luck




Jeptha -> RE: Some questions from a new sub (5/1/2009 11:23:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: justxjess

... I am just very shy and very afraid of doing something wrong. How do I get over the shyness? How do I get over the fear of doing/saying the wrong thing?

Are you willing to allow others to make mistakes as they explore their path (as long as they are honest mistakes)? Then expect that same consideration to be extended to you.

I think you have to be willing to experiment and make mistakes - in some ways, I think it's kind of crucial.




lizi -> RE: Some questions from a new sub (5/1/2009 11:30:22 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: subangi

Sometimes hooking up with a fellow submissive can be more helpful in the stage you are in, especially if there is one near you. 
I was once in your shoes, and i truly understand the shyness involved.   



Excellent point subangi made about reaching out to other s types. Cmail works well in this respect and most people seem to be receptive to it. Write a few emails to people you've seen posting here on the boards stating that you'd like to talk, ask a few questions, etc...what do you have to lose? I've been pleasantly surprised by how helpful everyone here has been overall.

Other than that most of us can empathize with the shyness factor. I recently started posting on the boards and can't for the life of me get up the courage to start a thread so you've got that going for yourself lol!

I think it works well to meet people here through cmail, chats, im's and then move to yahoo im.
You certainly don't need a M/D to explore BDSM, in fact that would probably be a mistake. Find out who you are and what you like just by exploring the topic and go from there [:)]




kuriouswitch -> RE: Some questions from a new sub (5/1/2009 12:34:00 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: justxjess

As I am still a bit too shy to just even post an introduction, I am just going to ask what is on my mind.  i hope that is all right :)

1.)  I am quite shy in real life with people I don't know very well and even with people I do.  Its difficult for me to even chat one on one with someone on here and progressing to steps beyond that seem daunting.  However I am serious about exploring this.  I am just very shy and very afraid of doing something wrong.  How do I get over the shyness?  How do I get over the fear of doing/saying the wrong thing?

2.)  Speaking of chatting one on one, do more people chat together through this website or another?  Would it be better to use Yahoo or something similar?

3.)  Without going into a detailed introduction, I have researched this lifestyle since I was 13 (I am now 24) and felt as if it applied So Much to me.  Its almost terrifyingly fulfilling to me;  I have felt calmer and happier and more secure with my footing in the world since I dove in head first.  My question:  How can I incorporate this into my everyday life without a M/D?  Is there a way to do so?  (I hope that made sense)

1) I'm shy myself in person (I find it easier to talk in text, even to family members than in person or on the phone) but Master enjoys that because he has seen and shown me over the last several months how I've grown in my trust in him, but also I've grown in confidence with him, and it's moved into RL. At work I'm able to actually converse with customers now without feeling sick ect. Getting over being shy is a very hard thing. I still fight to look people in the eyes when talking to them, family members included. but it's something that takes time and patience and someone encouraging you , letting you know that it's okay.

1B) As for saying/doing the wrong thing I still fight with this. There are times when I'll just sit and not move because I can't read Master's mood and there is no way I'm going to do or say anything that might "set" him off. Now I know Master wouldn't do that, just go off like that. but it's still a fear I have, I have a drive to be perfect so there are times when he has to remind me it's okay to make a mistake. that he will gently correct me when it's needed but he will also punish or discipline me if he feels that is needed. Making mistakes is human, they don't want a robot (though that would be cool) who is giong to be perfect all the time, and you're not the only one who is going to make mistakes. He will too, especially in the beginning as both of you learn about one another. Talk to him, tell him what you like and don't like, what you need and what you enjoy but can do without. Both of you need to talk after a punishment so that you can let him know how it effected you, did it work or does something else need to be tried next time. what did you learn from the punishment as well.

2) As for chatting with others. I spend more time here now on the boards than I ever did before. I used to and still do when I have time, chat in the chat rooms. It did a lot to help me get over being shy, having to interact with all those people. But I learned a lot too and had fun. I became an op (someone who helps moniter the chat room) for one room, and that's how I met Master, he was an op there as well. We spent a lot of time just talking in the chat room before ever moving to our messenger services. I have Cmail conversations with some people as well, but they tend to get impatient if you take a day or two to reply because you're busy. 

3) There are lots of ways to incorporate this lifestyle into your everyday without a M/D. One which always helped me was volunteering, usually at a hospital where I could help the patients with little things such as going to the bathroom or getting them water or delivering their mail and just visiting. Things like that. I used to go to the VA hospital when I lived in teh city, those men have lots of stories to tell. At work I make sure my main focus is the customer. I spend more time teaching them how to use the kiosk ( I work in a photo lab) and how to order their prints ect without making them feel like their an inconvience or stupid, especially the older ladies. I've had several thank me because I teach them willingly unlike a few of the other employees who make them feel incompitant (misspelled that) I also take care of my fellow employees, making sure they're taken care of when they're sick and at work, had to take a bowl of soup from one girl because she started to spill it on the floor without realizing it. I made her sit down while i warmed it up for her. I'm constantly aware and looking for ways I can help everyone run smoother so we can get more things done. I babysit one day a week, for a friend for free, or we barter, i babysit and get a home cooked meal or she'll allow me to borrow her car for the day if i need it. because her husband has been laid off and they can't afford to pay. i enjoy babysitting and she doesn't have to worry about daycare or paying a sitter and I get food that's healthy for me, or a car if i need to run errands that are across town. Like oceanwinds said, it's about focusing on others, making their lives easier, if you're single with no kids or pets and you're as shy as I am you don't hang out with people much, so there's a lot of free time outside of work and cleaning house, so put it to work helping and serving others who need it.




stella41b -> RE: Some questions from a new sub (5/1/2009 3:03:07 PM)

Seems all the wise posters got to this thread before me.

Ditto what they posted.




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