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talmar -> RE: bottom or sub? (2/4/2006 6:24:11 PM)

I wish they did to. I identify as a bottom & masochist more than a "slave" but I have to use that category here because it more aptly applies to me than sub.




GoddessDustyGold -> RE: bottom or sub? (2/4/2006 6:24:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: naughtynick

May I ask what does WIITWD mean?


What It Is That We Do




BeachMystress -> RE: bottom or sub? (2/7/2006 1:39:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick

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ORIGINAL: DianeB

I force my sub to take huge strapons.



haha ouchies. There are questions I would like to ask about doing anal actually. I know how people have to start off with smaller didlos or strap ons and slowly work up to bigger while your ass gets looser. Can it do permanent damage if you shove a strap on up there that is too big for your ass to handle?

Or a person that has a virgin ass and the first time he or she had fisting done to them.



Yes, you can cause permanent damage with unsafe anal. I know two women who had to have surgery after anal rape. Fisting a person who'd never had anything large in their rectum would also cause damage that would have to be surgically repaired.

Before you get involved in either end of "forced" anal sex, learn the anatomy of the rectum and bowel. (Things such as: you have two sphincters, one internal and one external.. The anal canal bends shortly after the sphincter.. The lining of the rectum is very thin, and can rip if there is too much stress put on it.) Find out what can go wrong.. what anal fissures, abscess and fistulas are, how they're caused and how to avoid them. Like any area of BDSM, educate yourself before you get involved in the activity. Start small, with a gloved, well lubed finger and work up from there. Slow, gentle and a lot of lube are some of the keys to beginning anal sex.

There are several books on the subject of anal sex. Here are a couple of them.
Anal Pleasure & Health: A Guide for Men and Women
Trust, the Hand Book: A Guide to the Sensual and Spiritual Art of Handballing
The Ultimate Guide to Anal Sex for Men




naughtynick -> RE: bottom or sub? (2/7/2006 2:26:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BeachMystress

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick

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ORIGINAL: DianeB

I force my sub to take huge strapons.



Hey thanks for the info. I am wondering if anal rape can cause IBS to. About 3 or 4 years ago I saw a pro domme a few times when I was living in Sydney. I had less ideas about bondage back than and knew squat about it. I didn't know yahoo groups existed or free BDSM sites existed. I actually only got into the BDSM talk on the net a couple of months ago.



haha ouchies. There are questions I would like to ask about doing anal actually. I know how people have to start off with smaller didlos or strap ons and slowly work up to bigger while your ass gets looser. Can it do permanent damage if you shove a strap on up there that is too big for your ass to handle?

Or a person that has a virgin ass and the first time he or she had fisting done to them.



Yes, you can cause permanent damage with unsafe anal. I know two women who had to have surgery after anal rape. Fisting a person who'd never had anything large in their rectum would also cause damage that would have to be surgically repaired.

Before you get involved in either end of "forced" anal sex, learn the anatomy of the rectum and bowel. (Things such as: you have two sphincters, one internal and one external.. The anal canal bends shortly after the sphincter.. The lining of the rectum is very thin, and can rip if there is too much stress put on it.) Find out what can go wrong.. what anal fissures, abscess and fistulas are, how they're caused and how to avoid them. Like any area of BDSM, educate yourself before you get involved in the activity. Start small, with a gloved, well lubed finger and work up from there. Slow, gentle and a lot of lube are some of the keys to beginning anal sex.

There are several books on the subject of anal sex. Here are a couple of them.
Anal Pleasure & Health: A Guide for Men and Women
Trust, the Hand Book: A Guide to the Sensual and Spiritual Art of Handballing
The Ultimate Guide to Anal Sex for Men




Hey thanks for the info. I am wondering if anal rape can cause IBS (irritable bowel syndrome) to. About 3 or 4 years ago I saw a pro domme a few times when I was living in Sydney. I had less ideas about bondage back than and knew squat about it. I only got into the BDSM talk on the net a few months ago.

Anyway, this Mistress used to tie me to this massage table and gag me and put these huge dildos up me. Even that it was extremely painful but I liked it because I had no control. But I didn't start getting IBS until 6 months after my last session. Or it could have been a different cause. I used to do eccys and ever since my first eccy I started getting IBS, I don't know if that can cause it.






thetammyjo -> RE: bottom or sub? (2/7/2006 8:53:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick

Hey thanks for the info. I am wondering if anal rape can cause IBS (irritable bowel syndrome) to. About 3 or 4 years ago I saw a pro domme a few times when I was living in Sydney. I had less ideas about bondage back than and knew squat about it. I only got into the BDSM talk on the net a few months ago.

Anyway, this Mistress used to tie me to this massage table and gag me and put these huge dildos up me. Even that it was extremely painful but I liked it because I had no control. But I didn't start getting IBS until 6 months after my last session. Or it could have been a different cause. I used to do eccys and ever since my first eccy I started getting IBS, I don't know if that can cause it.



This is a question for a doctor, your doctor after an examination.

A good doctor won't blink an eye if you tell them what gone up inside of you -- a good doctor might ask questions and might point out that lube and relaxing will make things much easier but a good doctor won't judge you or change the medical care based on why you are asking the question.

I suggest finding a good doctor cause IBS isn't pleasant from what I've heard. I'm also sure there are ways to cope with it and make it better but a doctor is your best source for that advice.





naughtynick -> RE: bottom or sub? (2/7/2006 12:39:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick

Hey thanks for the info. I am wondering if anal rape can cause IBS (irritable bowel syndrome) to. About 3 or 4 years ago I saw a pro domme a few times when I was living in Sydney. I had less ideas about bondage back than and knew squat about it. I only got into the BDSM talk on the net a few months ago.

Anyway, this Mistress used to tie me to this massage table and gag me and put these huge dildos up me. Even that it was extremely painful but I liked it because I had no control. But I didn't start getting IBS until 6 months after my last session. Or it could have been a different cause. I used to do eccys and ever since my first eccy I started getting IBS, I don't know if that can cause it.



This is a question for a doctor, your doctor after an examination.

A good doctor won't blink an eye if you tell them what gone up inside of you -- a good doctor might ask questions and might point out that lube and relaxing will make things much easier but a good doctor won't judge you or change the medical care based on why you are asking the question.

I suggest finding a good doctor cause IBS isn't pleasant from what I've heard. I'm also sure there are ways to cope with it and make it better but a doctor is your best source for that advice.





Hey thetammyjo, Thanks for the tip. I have been to a doctor about it but I didn't tell the doctor about my suspicions to why I could have got IBS. There are lots of reasons. I did some really silly things when I was younger. It could have been the anal torture, it could have been the pills, and it could have been this substance called Datura which was not friendly to my stomach at all and not really well known to what it does to the human body. But it is all of those assumptions that I have to take in.

I think about all this stuff a lot and I wonder if this or that caused it. I am lucky that I don't suffer IBS as bad as other people who have it. I don't get diarrhea or constipation. I just get sore around the bowel and rib cage area. I also get depressed and tired. It could even be fibromyalgia.

This does not happen everyday no more and the past few months I have been feeling much better. I actually took these IBS tablets that are supposed to be taken daily. I only took them a few times a while ago and ever since I have not had problems or probably very minor, mild, symptoms that I cant hardly notice. Before I even took those IBS tablets a few times, I was suffering from the symptoms on a daily basis.

It's got me confused.








BeachMystress -> RE: bottom or sub? (2/14/2006 3:01:49 AM)


I truly doubt the sodomy had anything to do with your IBS.

I assume they did an endoscopy to check for Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis. That would have revealed if there was any damage from your adventures.




naughtynick -> RE: bottom or sub? (2/14/2006 12:51:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BeachMystress


I truly doubt the sodomy had anything to do with your IBS.

I assume they did an endoscopy to check for Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis. That would have revealed if there was any damage from your adventures.



I refused to get an endoscopy. I don't really like ethat idea.




seaturtle50 -> RE: bottom or sub? (2/14/2006 3:13:08 PM)

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I refused to get an endoscopy. I don't really like ethat idea.


May i suggest that is not a great idea? To not know the result of such a test does not diminish the reality of that result. Maybe it would be helpful for you to put yourself in the "bottom mindset" and look at the test as a variation of your desired kink? i suppose that would work for me if i were having a difficulty accepting the application of such an exam - if it were needed.

st50




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