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Is Domme even a correct word? - 2/5/2006 1:07:00 AM

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yes yes I know every one uses it, but is it even a legit word? I heard from someone here I think and I can't remember where that it was a made up word that somehow got started.

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RE: Is Domme even a correct word? - 2/5/2006 1:09:24 AM

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It depends on what you mean by "legit." It's not in the Oxford English Dictionary.

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RE: Is Domme even a correct word? - 2/5/2006 1:14:51 AM

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Well, I consider legit not a word made up or adapted for use, Like legit would be your words like Oxford English Dictionary. For example. They have real meaning are not made up and are recognised words

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RE: Is Domme even a correct word? - 2/5/2006 4:06:35 AM

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is it even a legit word?

yes it is

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I heard from someone here I think and I can't remember where that it was a made up word that somehow got started.

Yes it is...but it doesn't really matter.

English is a living language, it has no central authority that decides what is and what is not a legit word. The only real test of a word's legitimacy in english is if it is generally used and understood to mean the same thing by a large number of people. Thus we have words like google, geek, shagadelic, babeular, and so on. If you coin a phrase and it catchs on, its a real word, that is the strength of the english language, it belongs to the people who speak it and not those who write the dictionaries...they are the followers

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RE: Is Domme even a correct word? - 2/5/2006 6:35:32 AM

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Yes it is...but it doesn't really matter.

English is a living language, it has no central authority that decides what is and what is not a legit word. The only real test of a word's legitimacy in english is if it is generally used and understood to mean the same thing by a large number of people. Thus we have words like google, geek, shagadelic, babeular, and so on. If you coin a phrase and it catchs on, its a real word, that is the strength of the english language, it belongs to the people who speak it and not those who write the dictionaries...they are the followers

i think that works in scrabble, and for the most part is true, but the real test of a word is if it ends up in the oxford. From my understanding if it does not end up in the oxford it is not considered a legitimate word for lack of knowing how they qualify what is and is not a word. the oxford which also to my understanding is a 6 foot long set containing a record of every word and its meaning in all the contexts as time changes and even some slang like geek could possibly be found there. but i think finding it in the ox is really the test of a word

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RE: Is Domme even a correct word? - 2/5/2006 9:17:28 AM

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Ok:D

Arpig so what would be the term for the female species of geek, geekett? hehe

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RE: Is Domme even a correct word? - 2/5/2006 9:33:03 AM

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We did have thread discussing this a while back. If you want to get *technical* the female form of the word "Dom" is "Domina."

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RE: Is Domme even a correct word? - 2/5/2006 9:47:40 AM

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ALL words are "made up"

We communicate by attaching meaning to abstract sound. Non-abstract words are words like "OW!" meaning distress or pain, and is the same in every language (by and large).

Somewhere, somebody made up the word "Chair" which is different in different languages. Meaning was attached to it. Meaning became more specifically refined over the years so we can differentiate between "chair" and "stool" and "sofa".

Yet, these sounds are meaningless on their own.

What makes a word 'legit' is its commonality of useage and your ability to communicate concepts with it. If no one knew what "Domme" meant, it would not be legit. Since the bulk of us (at least where BDSMers are concerned) DO know what it means and understand its attached concept, then yes. It is a 'legit' word.

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RE: Is Domme even a correct word? - 2/6/2006 9:25:43 AM

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What makes a word 'legit' is its commonality of useage and your ability to communicate concepts with it. If no one knew what "Domme" meant, it would not be legit. Since the bulk of us (at least where BDSMers are concerned) DO know what it means and understand its attached concept, then yes. It is a 'legit' word.

Exactly. I recently read one of my daughter's books that she had to do a book report on. The title was "Frindle" (by Andrew Clements). It was about a 5th grader who wanted to coin a new word...his word was "Frindle", which made reference to a pen. The book went on to describe his plans for making the word a public term.

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If you coin a phrase and it catchs on, its a real word, that is the strength of the english language, it belongs to the people who speak it and not those who write the dictionaries...they are the followers

After said 5th grader graduated college, (and was rather wealthy by this time thanks to the royalties from frindle merchandise) his 5th grade English teacher sent him the Oxford dictionary, and there in the "F"s was his word frindle. (and no, frindle is NOT in the Oxford dictionary).

Call me sentimental...i cried at the end of the book. It just goes to show how one person could make a difference in their own way.

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RE: Is Domme even a correct word? - 2/6/2006 9:53:51 AM

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From my understanding if it does not end up in the oxford it is not considered a legitimate word

hey if that works for you, great. But the Oxford is simply a dictionary, it is not the english equivalent of L'Acadamie Francaise.
There is no central authority for this language of ours, for the simple reason that while we can all communicate in it, we all speak it very differently, take the word boot for example, it has many meanings, and what they are depends on which english speaking country you are in.
English belongs to those who speak it, pure and simple.

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Arpig so what would be the term for the female species of geek, geekett? hehe

hey why not, I have heard Geekette used to describe girls who hang around geeks but are not themselves geeks, and to describe female geeks as well. And just what is a geek....it means different things depending on the context...He's a geek!....I am an internet geek...How do you say slap in klingon, anybody a Star Trek geek?, etc. etc.

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and is the same in every language (by and large).

saved yourself a reprimand with the "by and large" there. and yes you are vorrect, all words are made up. It is indeed the commonality of usage that makes a word legit, and words are legit in some places and times and not others. The meanings of words change as well with time and location, and with the community that uses them...the word crash means very different things when used by computer geeks than it does when used by pilots, or by somebody winding up a 3 day binge.

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RE: Is Domme even a correct word? - 2/6/2006 10:02:23 AM

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I wouldn't be so bothered by "Domme" if people prounounced it the same way they pronounce "Dom." But it's that whole contrived "Dommaaaaay" thing that annoys the bejesus out of me. It's not a French word, forcryinoutloud, although the story I heard <koff> was that it originated in one of the oldest BDSM "houses" in Europe (who knew?) ;>

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RE: Is Domme even a correct word? - 2/6/2006 12:00:29 PM

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Despite the originality of Dominant and Domina, Domme is a word excepted by the majority of the BDSM community. The majority rules, it's now a correct word. This is just a part of evolution according to language. Every language ends up changing.

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RE: Is Domme even a correct word? - 2/6/2006 12:51:32 PM

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This has been discussed before, many, many moons ago. I rather suspect it is something that evolved in the chatrooms as a way to quickly distinguish a Female Dom from a Male Dom. Both are Doms, but just the use of the accepted term Dom did not do enough to indicate the gender.
I use it occasionally Myself, and it is an accepted word in the community. However, I tend to use FemDom or Domina most often when referring to Myself or other Dominants of the Female pursuasion.

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RE: Is Domme even a correct word? - 2/6/2006 12:55:24 PM

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Especially since that pronunciation makes no sense. Dommay (domme with an accent aigu) would mean "dommed" in French. Annoying as hell.

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But it's that whole contrived "Dommaaaaay" thing that annoys the bejesus out of me.

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RE: Is Domme even a correct word? - 2/6/2006 4:44:48 PM

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Figured I'd throw my opinion in as well. No it is not a word. However, you can't expect people who practice this lifestyle to know anything at all about it, now can you?

The proper term is dominant which is gender neutral or fem dom. Or domina.

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RE: Is Domme even a correct word? - 2/6/2006 6:04:16 PM

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The proper term is dominant which is gender neutral

Just when the rest of the country was adjusting to gender neutral terms...
no more mailman, stewardess etc. and the actor/actress thing is becoming simply actor for either gender....

I guess before the internet, there was no need for such clarification...down the road will we be seeing sub and subbe? slave and slavee?

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RE: Is Domme even a correct word? - 2/6/2006 11:11:05 PM

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That's al ot better than people who pronounce it dummey