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Pigs at the trough......UK Style - 5/10/2009 3:29:46 AM

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Im getting really angry at this. Now they have been caught with thier fingers in the pie, they are blaming "The System". They run the system and happily took advantage of it, whichever party they are in.

Hazel Blears had a home she declared as her main home, on which no Capital Gains tax was due when it was paid. Yet earlier the same year, she claimed it as her second home, so she could claim for the mortgage.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8042261.stm

Her claim is "The system" is wrong. No Hazel, you are wrong, one house cant be both a main and second home.

The other thing that gets me is Jack Straw and many others claim things were cliamed "In error" its ironic he only checked his expenses and paid back said "Errors" Once he knew claims would be published. Are we to believe the people who make expense claims in error are bright enough to run the Country?

Thirdly many MP`s are saying they were told to claim "The full amount" to make up their wages. This is absurd in the extreme.

The government tactic to defer criticism is to launch an inquiry into how the Telegraph obtained the copies of expenses. It would be silly to think Blears details were leaked because she criticised Gordon, wouldnt it.

The whole thing stinks, those that made fraudulent claims are a disgrace to the office they hold.

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RE: Pigs at the trough......UK Style - 5/10/2009 6:41:25 AM

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Just shows that Americans aren't the only people with "problematic political leadership" and have people who can't even use tax software properly ...or did they learn it from you guys?

On the other hand, if we kept them supplied with hookers and gigolos maybe they'd quit screwing around with stuff, so to speak.

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RE: Pigs at the trough......UK Style - 5/10/2009 7:10:42 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Im getting really angry at this. Now they have been caught with thier fingers in the pie, they are blaming "The System". They run the system and happily took advantage of it, whichever party they are in.

Hazel Blears had a home she declared as her main home, on which no Capital Gains tax was due when it was paid. Yet earlier the same year, she claimed it as her second home, so she could claim for the mortgage.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8042261.stm

Her claim is "The system" is wrong. No Hazel, you are wrong, one house cant be both a main and second home.

The other thing that gets me is Jack Straw and many others claim things were cliamed "In error" its ironic he only checked his expenses and paid back said "Errors" Once he knew claims would be published. Are we to believe the people who make expense claims in error are bright enough to run the Country?

Thirdly many MP`s are saying they were told to claim "The full amount" to make up their wages. This is absurd in the extreme.

The government tactic to defer criticism is to launch an inquiry into how the Telegraph obtained the copies of expenses. It would be silly to think Blears details were leaked because she criticised Gordon, wouldnt it.

The whole thing stinks, those that made fraudulent claims are a disgrace to the office they hold.

Has it never occurred that when you cast your vote at the ballot box, it is not for the hope of a better future in their eyes, but you and other conned voters are the step up to the lucrative gravy train, the money for nothing, the con they have created and administer in secrecy.

So they are now squealing like stuck pigs, squealing that they trough manners have been found out. They call for privacy, but wait one moment, they are in public office, put there by the public, surely they have'nt got anything to hide from their supporters. If they have, then they are treating those that put faith in them with utter contempt and to that, kick them out, they are not worthy of the position they hold.

All expenses to the public purse by publically elected officials should be plain for all to see, they may manage the country on behalf of us, but they do it with our permission, that privlige can and should be revoked at any hint of foul play, or else how are we going to get it over to any other possible pretender that if they want support, they are going to have to earn it, by being true to their supporters.

Honesty is not a dirty word.

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RE: Pigs at the trough......UK Style - 5/10/2009 8:47:07 AM

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I think so many of us around the world try to pick the candidate that will minimize the damage rather than voting for one that will bring viable solutions...

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RE: Pigs at the trough......UK Style - 5/10/2009 10:11:23 AM

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I think so many of us around the world try to pick the candidate that will minimize the damage rather than voting for one that will bring viable solutions...

Indeed. I know my vote wont count for much on its own, but I refuse to not use it.

This isnt so much about tax, as about tax free expenses. Rules and perks for the political elite, not available to the general public.

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RE: Pigs at the trough......UK Style - 5/10/2009 11:18:30 AM

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I tend to vote for independants, people brave enough to put up the cash to run for something they believe in, some might say a wasted vote, I could reply the with the same, as red or blue, the main contenders, they are just the same, more pigs searching for the goody trough.

Politics used to be about hopes of positive change, now it's a life in sweet street.

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RE: Pigs at the trough......UK Style - 5/10/2009 3:02:02 PM

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It really does show what can happen when a determined group gets their heads together. The Commons tried always to block the release of this information and would have done so were not for the Freedom of Information group who were like a dog with a bone on this one. They would have removed traces of the worst excess, too, were it left to them to release the information in July.

What is unbelievable is that on being caught, they claim they were only acting within the rules that they set; and not one of them has apologised. They treat us with such contempt that not only are we fair game for paying for their home refurbishments for them to make a profit on the sale, we're not good enough for an apology.

The small amount of good will that existed, has just gone up in smoke.

Hazel Blears, MP for Salford, claims that any misdeed was done in good faith. I mean, totally laughable. Presumably when the next bloke is up in court for not paying his tax and he says: "well, never mind, it was done in good faith", it'll be fine?

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RE: Pigs at the trough......UK Style - 5/10/2009 6:08:19 PM

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This IS the price we pay without term limits...paying for a culture of dependency and a sense of entitlement. This applies even to their continued relections. Saw a bumper sticker..."Don't re-elect anybody."

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RE: Pigs at the trough......UK Style - 5/10/2009 6:22:11 PM

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This IS the price we pay without term limits...paying for a culture of dependency and a sense of entitlement. This applies even to their continued relections. Saw a bumper sticker..."Don't re-elect anybody."

You could hold an election every 6 months, but where other controls aren't in place it won't make a blind bit of difference. The rules should not be set by them and an independent source should be overseeing their actions. It's been announced that accountants will be in place to take control, but it counts for nothing where the accountants aren't independent. I'll be interested to see who exactly will be charged with ensuring the accountants are independent.

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RE: Pigs at the trough......UK Style - 5/11/2009 1:04:29 AM

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This all coincides with the massive £150,000 celebrations and partying by Southwark Council.

What are they celebrating? Oh just the fact that the council are less racist than they were ten years ago. Just like the other local council which cut meals for pensioners saving £150,000 but spent £126,000 on lunches prepared by Jamie Oliver.

Which basically means that this is not just central government, but runs right through local government as well.

It's not so much a culture of dependency or a sense of entitlement, just the same old freedom to exploit that we are also seeing from the banks and the City. Now we know why the government has been so willing to help the banks out, which is basically they're up to the elbows in the till too.

I stand by my suggestion from last year - vote for the one at the bottom of the list, the minority party, and it doesn't matter whether they're Labour, Conservative or Liberal Democrat - vote the whole lot of the chancers and jivers out on their arseholes.

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RE: Pigs at the trough......UK Style - 5/19/2009 12:59:25 PM

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Just an update to this story. Today the Speaker of the House of Commons quit over the issue. It is his job to ensure the House is run properly. To give an idea of the magnitude of this event. The last time a speaker was forced to resign was in 1695. There have also been a few MP`s suspended and some who have announced they will quit before the next election.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8057203.stm

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RE: Pigs at the trough......UK Style - 5/19/2009 2:37:59 PM

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Just shows that Americans aren't the only people with "problematic political leadership" and have people who can't even use tax software properly ...or did they learn it from you guys?

I agree this is a problem but it has noting to do with software in this case (a piss poor excuse even if it was) and yes ... this shit IS inherited intellectual property (or should we say ... less intellect and more interest in property?)

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On the other hand, if we kept them supplied with hookers and gigolos maybe they'd quit screwing around with stuff, so to speak.

They claim money for all of that under "homeopathic feng shui" from what I'm told (and probably the resultant pest control treatment too).

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RE: Pigs at the trough......UK Style - 5/19/2009 3:17:05 PM

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This all coincides with the massive £150,000 celebrations and partying by Southwark Council.
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Please forward the number to apply for access to these funds ?

I have a party coming up soon and I recycle too, I promise to ensure all of the empties are properly disposed of by an equal proportion of people (based on who turns up) to do it (get pissed and vaguely tidy up) rather than waiting for the council to cause an environmental disaster by debating what is "green" and taking things to "committee" for three years (by which time even their brains have vegetable like properties) and the subsequent expense

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I am less racist than I was before you told me this( honest!)(I can spot a good bandwagon when I see it) (about the grant) too, surely my fundamental human rights entitle me to some of this huge pot of money? ... a big bit would of course be far more helpful to the integration (or even immigration

cause) (will it help if I tell you I like Curry as well as Chinese food?)
Ok, how's about prior consent to a curry and a few ciders on the state once or twice a week and I'll keep the bill under £200 ?
If not ... I will give evidence that will change civilisation as we know it ... Jamie Oliver steals recipe's ... fact ... which is BAD .I've even heard he used to be able to cook before his head started to get in the way! What has this poor unfortunate come to?

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