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RE: The prince at it again. - 5/12/2009 12:53:55 PM   
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With under floor and modern central heating?

 
Nah... with a staff of five hundred obediant slave girls to tend the fires, warm my bed, etc...

Hey, If I'm going to fantasize I might as well go for it, right?




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RE: The prince at it again. - 5/12/2009 3:31:46 PM   
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I just love old buildings, the older the better. not so keen on modern stuff, I wasnt impressed with fallingwater up until I went and saw it and got the reasoning at the tour .....and really really liked it, now I look at things a little differently. Concrete is nassy, but some of the buildings going up in the last ten years have been more exciting. As far as HRH I agree, it got people talking, but eccentricity is something he does well.
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RE: The prince at it again. - 5/12/2009 4:09:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

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I was just thinking, isn't that what most Americans come to Britain to see, the antwacky, ye olde worlde, chocolate box bollocks ?


I happen to like the chocolate box olde worlde creations that you think is bollocks.  I find such crude insults immature.  I also happen to enjoy modern architecture.
 
Of course Charles is an important person when it comes to this.  And so he should be.
 
Do you even know what he proposed in the beginning with all this when it was in the primary stages and what this is all about?
Your post is nothing more than like a tabloid scaremongering at it's worse.
 
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The chocolate box, ye olde worlde achitecture had it's place, it has influenced many modern buildings, look at housing estates, they all look the same, yeah the houses are different, the designers have seen fit to vary the styles a bit, (from what it was like in the past, rows of the same style houses), but the details are largely the same. Now, Milton Keynes for example, many dislike the place, but that town has been daring enough to try new ideas, they have made an attempt at modernist design, and design to incorporate many new enviromentally sustaining ideas. Surely, this is a way to go, more efficient dwellings that do not impact greatly on the enviroment. Why are we still sticking houses in the ground, where they suck up moisture and cold, what is wrong with stilted houses, dwellings raised off the ground, what is wrong with modern composite materials, or wood, why cold brick all the time and why a design that was in vogue in the eighteenth century and older. Surely we have moved on a bit by now, the peak of building design has not passed yet, though by the look of it, to a foreign visitor, it might seem so, either that, or some would wish for Time in Britain to stand still.

My interest is for the skilled and creative to be allowed to design and create without hindrance from a person who could be said to be living in an ivory tower. As to whether a design goes ahead, that is for the customer to decide, the planners and the people who have to live/work in it and the people who live by/with it, not someone who owns and lives in some of the choicest historical dwellings in the country, dwellings that go back in reality to the times we seem to mimick in many modern buildings.


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RE: The prince at it again. - 5/13/2009 6:42:30 AM   
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Why are we still sticking houses in the ground, where they suck up moisture and cold, what is wrong with stilted houses, dwellings raised off the ground, what is wrong with modern composite materials, or wood, why cold brick all the time and why a design that was in vogue in the eighteenth century and older. Surely we have moved on a bit by now, the peak of building design has not passed yet, though by the look of it, to a foreign visitor, it might seem so, either that, or some would wish for Time in Britain to stand still.

 
Then your post or rather this paragraph shows you obviously have no idea on Charles position and have taken one little report and instead of investigating, calling someone 'in an ivory tower' out on something you don't know their position on. 


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My interest is for the skilled and creative to be allowed to design and create without hindrance from a person who could be said to be living in an ivory tower. As to whether a design goes ahead, that is for the customer to decide, the planners and the people who have to live/work in it and the people who live by/with it, not someone who owns and lives in some of the choicest historical dwellings in the country, dwellings that go back in reality to the times we seem to mimick in many modern buildings.

 
And sometimes there has to be external protection.  If there had been such in the 70s and 80s instead of all the back pocket deals that occured, then we wouldn't have the tower blocks and blights that are either falling down now or having to be removed at an expense that could have been avoided.
 
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RE: The prince at it again. - 5/13/2009 11:18:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

I was just thinking, isn't that what most Americans come to Britain to see, the antwacky, ye olde worlde, chocolate box bollocks ?


So pray tell me what contribution to the London skyline gives a gigantic bicycle wheel or for that matter a humungous dildo?

I've got nothing against modern architecture, nothing at all, but I also enjoy architecture from the past, it's part of our heritage and culture, and I'm aware that the modern fitting in beside the traditional is something we do quite well here in Britain.

I also feel that Prince Charles quite often talks a lot of sense especially when it comes to subjects like architecture, the arts and ecology. He makes much more sense than a lot of the windbags in Westminster.


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RE: The prince at it again. - 5/13/2009 12:38:37 PM   
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And having such public debates is good for a country and a culture.  I enjoy a wide variety of architecture from primitive to traditional to modern to super-minimalist.  It all depends on the surrounding area, structures, history, story, resources available, purpose, etc.


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Whatever the merits of Charles's views, he got people thinking and talking about the importance of architecture. No small service, that.


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