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TEMPERANCE -> RE: Real life slave hunting anyone? (5/13/2009 3:22:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TexasMaam

I never implied anyone is/was stupid.  Naieve perhaps.

The individuals I know of who offer slave auctions and slave hunts, (consensual hunts by the way ...if lawenforcement happens to be reading) are individuals who would never advertise the event online.

Non consensual hunts are offered in the US, too.  I think they call that particular tragedy 'human trafficking,.


TM


Being someone who is an experienced BDSM practitioner I would not get involved in anything that was not consensual.  I always opperate within the boundaries of Risk Aware Consensual Kink... I, or any one that I associate with would have nothing to do with anyone who was unsafe, or abusive, in their kink.   Of course Im only speaking for myself and the other reputable Huntresses that I associate with, I can not speak on behalf of other hunts that may be held elsewhere. 

Fortunately it would appear that the UK is more libertated than the states then... or maybe we're just not so paranoid. 




pinnipedster -> RE: Real life slave hunting anyone? (5/13/2009 3:42:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TEMPERANCE
Fortunately it would appear that the UK is more libertated than the states then... or maybe we're just not so paranoid. 


It does seem that way from over here.  The UK seems to regard alternative sexuality as more of an eccentricity, rather than some kind of moral problem that if left unchecked will lead to rampant Satanism in the schools or something.




mistressleesa1 -> RE: Real life slave hunting anyone? (5/13/2009 6:59:40 PM)

The OWK (in the Czech Republic) has been holding naked-male-slave hunts for years. The Ladies chase down their hapless male prey and "capture" them by hitting them with raw eggs. It's a mess--and hilarious.




Venatrix -> RE: Real life slave hunting anyone? (5/13/2009 7:00:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mistressleesa1

The OWK (in the Czech Republic) has been holding naked-male-slave hunts for years. The Ladies chase down their hapless male prey and "capture" them by hitting them with raw eggs. It's a mess--and hilarious.


Are they free-range?  The eggs, I mean, not the subs.




mistressleesa1 -> RE: Real life slave hunting anyone? (5/13/2009 7:07:53 PM)

Free range or factory farmed? I'm not sure. But occasionally some sadistic Mistress manages to slip into her arsenal (not the football club) a hard-boiled egg, which apparently stings like hell.




LadyPact -> RE: Real life slave hunting anyone? (5/14/2009 2:38:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TexasMaam

I never implied anyone is/was stupid.  Naieve perhaps.

The individuals I know of who offer slave auctions and slave hunts, (consensual hunts by the way ...if lawenforcement happens to be reading) are individuals who would never advertise the event online.

Non consensual hunts are offered in the US, too.  I think they call that particular tragedy 'human trafficking,.


TM

Just a quick word on this.

As someone who's in an area where the idea of a hunt has been kicked around and the auction thing is/has been done (our next one happens to be Saturday) the above is a bit misleading.

You'd be correct in saying that we don't publicly advertise these events via the internet.  You're not going to find anything on these boards in the upcoming events section or anything of that nature.  However, it is posted within the local group and does happen to be posted within our board on another fetish lifestyle related site.  (A person would have to either find it by knowing the name of the local group or by chance happen to search the term to stumble across it.) 

This has more to do with the fact that these events are for vetted members only in My area.  When the details of any such event are posted, the guidelines of such an event are listed in such a way to specify that any transactions made are temporary and that no sexual activity is a result.

Of course, the best way to reach the members of our little group is actually, the internet.  Then again, so are any of the other group activities that we hold that have any of the numerous things related to wiitwd that could potentially lead to being considered breaking the law.  Very much the same as any topic covered by a demo.




HalloweenWhite -> RE: Real life slave hunting anyone? (5/14/2009 7:47:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Venatrix

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ORIGINAL: mistressleesa1

The OWK (in the Czech Republic) has been holding naked-male-slave hunts for years. The Ladies chase down their hapless male prey and "capture" them by hitting them with raw eggs. It's a mess--and hilarious.


Are they free-range?  The eggs, I mean, not the subs.


*Clukels*......I mean * chickles*......agghh! no!....I mean *chuckles*.




TEMPERANCE -> RE: Real life slave hunting anyone? (5/14/2009 11:06:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pinnipedster

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ORIGINAL: TEMPERANCE
Fortunately it would appear that the UK is more libertated than the states then... or maybe we're just not so paranoid. 


It does seem that way from over here.  The UK seems to regard alternative sexuality as more of an eccentricity, rather than some kind of moral problem that if left unchecked will lead to rampant Satanism in the schools or something.



I think its quite sad really.  It appears to prevent people from letting go and enjoying themselves, fortunately many can see the fun in this rather than banging on irrationally about the FBI, i mean come on seriously do the FBI not have better things to be doing than homing in on a bunch of adults running around in a field/woods?

I would disagree that its seen as an "eccentricity" here though.  I think generally alternative lifestyles are much widely accepted as being a part of a healthy, happy life.  We work hard, we wanna play hard too!  Some elements of kink is pretty much widely socially acceptable here, there are high street shops selling basic bondage kits, fetish outfits, paddles and whips etc. Not up to a serious fetishists standards, but its there none the less.  





pinnipedster -> RE: Real life slave hunting anyone? (5/14/2009 1:13:49 PM)

Well, this Valentine's Day, they were actually selling "Love Cuffs" at local 7-Elevens....not anything I'd want to use for real bondage (basically, pink police-type cuffs) but I was still kind of surprised.




MistressRouge -> RE: Real life slave hunting anyone? (5/14/2009 3:39:34 PM)

Hello Temperance,

I have just received an invite to your wonderful yahoo group, and I have joined of course.

I think it is a fantastic concept, and I would be interested in attending a slavehunt oneday :)




Politesub53 -> RE: Real life slave hunting anyone? (5/14/2009 4:22:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

You can do both with a ruler, multi purpose tool (go back read) and oh yeah, it also helps you to draw straight lines (the bit that always interested me the least)


You can also measure your feet, if its a foot rule. [8D]




mistressleesa1 -> RE: Real life slave hunting anyone? (5/15/2009 1:39:32 AM)

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Fortunately it would appear that the UK is more libertated than the states then... or maybe we're just not so paranoid.

It does seem that way from over here. The UK seems to regard alternative sexuality as more of an eccentricity, rather than some kind of moral problem that if left unchecked will lead to rampant Satanism in the schools or something.


Please, give me a break. The UK is so "liberated" that its new draconian porn law (banning what the censors consider "extreme" images) turns any Brit who possesses "violent" fetish and bdsm depictions (such as spankings, cbt or bondage?) into a candidate for a three-year prison sentence.




Politesub53 -> RE: Real life slave hunting anyone? (5/15/2009 1:50:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mistressleesa1

Please, give me a break. The UK is so "liberated" that its new draconian porn law (banning what the censors consider "extreme" images) turns any Brit who possesses "violent" fetish and bdsm depictions (such as spankings, cbt or bondage?) into a candidate for a three-year prison sentence.


Two points here, firstly the law concerned was drafted after a horrific murder, where the killer had been watching violent porn. I think the government acted in knee jerk fashion and didnt look at the whole issue. Secondly there isnt a clamour for all  BDSM pictures to be outlawed, just the violent ones. Spanking and bondage photos wouldnt be considered a crime. The CBT ones might, if they looked like causing serious injury.




mistressleesa1 -> RE: Real life slave hunting anyone? (5/15/2009 4:10:41 AM)

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Original: Politesub53
Two points here, firstly the law concerned was drafted after a horrific murder, where the killer had been watching violent porn. I think the government acted in knee jerk fashion and didnt look at the whole issue. Secondly there isnt a clamour for all BDSM pictures to be outlawed, just the violent ones. Spanking and bondage photos wouldnt be considered a crime. The CBT ones might, if they looked like causing serious injury.


Here's my point: I lived, was educated (boarding school and university) and worked in the UK. I was--and remain--an Anglophile. But over the past decade or so I've noticed a disturbing trend. It seems to me that the UK is evolving into a "nanny" state, intent on micromanaging its citizens' private lives (i.e., millions of CCTV cameras watching everyone everywhere). With regard to the porn law, as the UK government has admitted, there isn't a shred of scholarly research suggesting that the mere act of viewing extreme images harms anyone. So here's a law based on an unproven premise, with the usual unintended consequences soon to follow. For instance, I spank my subby-husband and post pictures of his bruised butt on my web site. You say that's legal now, but what about two years hence or five years? Recent developments in the UK don't seem to me to warrant the term "liberated."




LadyConstanze -> RE: Real life slave hunting anyone? (5/15/2009 4:32:52 AM)

Having grown up in other parts of Europe, the UK doesn't seem to be very liberated, on the other hand I have also lived in the US and compared to the general situation regarding BDSM in the US, the UK can in relation to that look quite liberated... (If you take Germany, Austria, Switzerland or the Netherlands into account, you just think "WTF? Don't they have anything better to do????? I guess it always depends where you are standing, in Italy BDSM is even more underground!")

I think the government is not really going out of its way to find BDSM porn, it was more something they did to plactate the general public, in a "Yes, we are on the case" way, from my understanding of the issue, once there is blood involved or it looks like somebody might have lasting injuries, there is a problem, but as Politesub said, a guy was watching violent porn and then killed somebody in a terribly cruel way, the whole country was in uproar, the woman was campaigning against violent porn, they had to do something.

I always like to look at the way a country handles prostitution, I don't have a personal interest in it, but I think it is a good indicator, a country that does tell consenting adults what they are allowed to do behind closed doors if there is money involved, shows you a bit about their approach towards sexuality and alternative sexuality. The UK plans to easen up on their "More than 1 woman using the premisses is illegal, solicitation is illegal" (though hardly enforced) by saying women would be safer if they were more allowed in one flat. I can't see the US going easier on their stance.




allthatjaz -> RE: Real life slave hunting anyone? (5/15/2009 4:56:22 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: TexasMaam

I never implied anyone is/was stupid.  Naieve perhaps.

The individuals I know of who offer slave auctions and slave hunts, (consensual hunts by the way ...if lawenforcement happens to be reading) are individuals who would never advertise the event online.

Non consensual hunts are offered in the US, too.  I think they call that particular tragedy 'human trafficking,.


TM




I was in an English club a couple of weeks ago when two police officers came in. They browsed around as people where whipped, flogged and suspended in bondage and reassuringly told the promoter (wink wink) that everything was fine. It happens all the time. Police are always entering these clubs and they just don't worry so long as everything is peaceful.
Getting rid of the players in the UK would be like getting rid of the gays... impossible.

If we were to take heed of these new laws then none of us would ever go out to these clubs or show our pictures on the internet or attend fun things like mock hunts. If we had to remain totally underground then the law would win because we can only target people we know.
Its ok to get paranoid if thats your thing but its not ok to say someone is naive because you don't happen to feel comfortable with it. What your saying is that every person that plays in a club, every promoter that runs an event and every time we talk openly on the boards about a Sado/masochistic experience we are being naive. I say we are just establishing the huge numbers that are into this and huge numbers are much harder to curb than a poxy bit of underground.

We have human trafficking here too and the law are far more interested in that than in us or are you saying a mock hunt would be seen as the same as human trafficking?

We recently had a large and very expensive court case against someone who practiced BDSM. It was thrown out and the accused was largely compensated. Both police and press got a wrap on the knuckles for wasting so much time and money.








TEMPERANCE -> RE: Real life slave hunting anyone? (5/15/2009 12:05:38 PM)

Ive just read this whole thread from begining to end rather than getting caught up with semantics.  Some amazing ideas which im happily going to pinch..... Im glad that its not only I that can see the delight in such a thing as hunting.

Welcome to the group Mistress Rouge I hope you enjoy it and that at some point in time we will have the pleasure in meeting in real life for a little light entertainment.

Allthatjazz, I to was also in the club when the Police came in and I have to say my first thoughts were wow, I was impressed at how authentic their uniforms looked, luckily I behaved myself.   




BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: Real life slave hunting anyone? (5/15/2009 12:19:23 PM)

My wife Diane is a prodomme and has been holding slave hunts for years from horse back with our hounds,I love the words loose the hounds smile,,Bounty




Lashra -> RE: Real life slave hunting anyone? (5/15/2009 4:43:06 PM)

I was talking about this with my sub and we came up with an idea. How about using dildo guns? You know take a harpoon, put a lubed up dildo on the end and use it for shooting sub boys in the ass (or mouth, just watch the eyes). [sm=lastthing.gif]

~Lashra




TEMPERANCE -> RE: Real life slave hunting anyone? (5/15/2009 5:28:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lashra

I was talking about this with my sub and we came up with an idea. How about using dildo guns? You know take a harpoon, put a lubed up dildo on the end and use it for shooting sub boys in the ass (or mouth, just watch the eyes). [sm=lastthing.gif]

~Lashra



The worrying thing about that is that I actually know a couple of guys that you would probably be able to do that to without it even touching the sides..... I'll stick to paintball guns me thinks.....




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