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wanabesissysub -> Exploring forced bi acts(not really forced) (5/18/2009 12:15:45 PM)

Hello fello subs.  I was wondering if any of you have explored this type of scene?  I am extremely bi curious, and am wondering if any of you can share your first bi exp?  Was it what you expected?  Was it a positive exp?  Did you choose to persue it again?  Would you only do it in a bdsm setting, or would you do it in everyday life?  Thanks for much for sharing.




Danibelle -> RE: Exploring forced bi acts(not really forced) (5/18/2009 1:02:06 PM)

Well I wouldn't call it forced or even not really forced but yes.  It went well.  I did it again and would definitely do it again and again and again =)

One thing I did realize was that I am NOT bi.  I had considered myself to be kind of bi-curious and now I don't know.  The boyfriend calls it "opportunistic."  Someone on here gave me the option "heteroflexible." 

For me it was all about the BDSM aspect of it.  I enjoyed the three-way power dynamic.  The boyfriend played the absolute top and I assisted him.  We also switched it and she assisted him.  Part of me enjoys it so much cause it's another way to share activities the boyfriend and I enjoy but maybe not with each other.  For example, he likes to play harder than I am able to at this moment so it was a way for him to play harder with me and for me to share that with him.  If it's something you're curious about, I'd go for it.  Find someone open-minded and there's no harm in trying.  Let her know that this would be a first for you.  Maybe you'd want to set the pace with what you're comfortable with.  Maybe you want him or her to set the pace.  The possibilites are endless.




wanabesissysub -> RE: Exploring forced bi acts(not really forced) (5/19/2009 8:54:53 AM)

Thanks for your insight.  I have become a very bi curious male over the last few years.  Its somewhat of an odd thing, as I am not attracted to men, just the actual physical acts.  I have been extremely interested in the forced bi scene since I thought it would be easier for me to accept performing the acts in the bdsm setting rather than a vanilla setting.  If there are others that share similar thoughts, i would love to hear about your experiences.  Was it what you expected?  Was it hard for you to actually perform the acts?  Was it hard for you to accept it mentally afterwards?  Was it positive or negative?  Thanks again for your insight.




Danibelle -> RE: Exploring forced bi acts(not really forced) (5/19/2009 10:35:41 AM)

That's really all I'm interested in sharing on the boards, but if you'd like to ask me any more questions, feel free to send me a message.




sunshiinedreamer -> RE: Exploring forced bi acts(not really forced) (5/19/2009 2:56:29 PM)

for me, i would only engage in play with another girl in the bdsm setting. i'm not bi, and would not ever have a one-on-one experience with another girl. but the beauty of being "forced" (i prefer the term "co-erced" =D) is that you are free from the limits of being straight or bi or any other kind of lable. not to mention if it makes Him that happy, i'm all for it. 




atypicalsub -> RE: Exploring forced bi acts(not really forced) (5/23/2009 8:41:17 PM)

Well for me it definately does not need to be forced in any way.  I have identified as bisexual my entire life and have only been into bdsm as a lifestyle for the past year.  I have shared with my Mistress a number of fantasies about being 'forced' and used by another man.  For us it would be a fun role play scene.  Finding a top guy who would want to 'force' me and not telling him that I would do it willingly.  Let the other guy believe that she has somehow coerced or blackmailed me into submitting for her entertainment.  For me the erotic part of it would be acting reluctant and struggling against the other man while she watches and encourages him to use me roughly.




Gaulthierdewin -> RE: Exploring forced bi acts(not really forced) (5/31/2009 7:08:57 PM)

Back in graduate school I was in possession of a lovely young submissive who was not bi-sexual nor really bi-curious. She was more of a very dedicated submissive. When the subject of her being "forced" or "coerced" into a bi-sexual act came up she stated that as my submissive her sexual preference was irrelevant. She also knew that a girl on girl "scene" was something that I found very hot.

She actively sought to cultivate a relationship with another woman. She became intimate with another woman in our program who was bi-sexual and curious about the lifestyle. At this point I should assign names to avoid confusion. Rachel was my submissive. Deanna was the woman who she became intimate with. It so happened that I had dated Deanna briefly.

What finally transpired was that Rachel and Deanna became lovers. Rachel guided Deanna into a state of indentured servitude as my submissive. As you can imagine. We all became very close.

One thing that I found interesting and quite touching was after Deanna proclaimed her love for Rachel and for me. Rachel pointed out the fact that she did not consider herself gay nor even bi-sexual, and that she found herself deeply in love with Deanna. It was a very intense period in our lives.




Gaulthierdewin -> RE: Exploring forced bi acts(not really forced) (5/31/2009 7:12:33 PM)

Postscript: Regrettably, after we all finished our programs we moved to different cities to follow our respective careers. As you can imagine, I often think back on my lovely submissive and her experience of "coerced" bi-sexuality. Rachel and Deanna actually lived together until they too moved to different cities due to career opportunities.




breatheasone -> RE: Exploring forced bi acts(not really forced) (5/31/2009 7:37:53 PM)

i think a "forced-bi" playdate  would be hot. Hmmm..... another thing to add to the "to do" list.[;)]




Drifa -> RE: Exploring forced bi acts(not really forced) (5/31/2009 7:56:48 PM)

Interesting. The OP's profile shows as "not found" now.

One thing to think about is that our society and our acculturation really puts a negative connotation on male same-sex experiences no matter where on the Kinsey scale you fall.  I suspect that some (and perhaps most) guys that go to the "forced-bi" scene actually fall somewhere in the middle of the Kinsey scale, but because of societal pressures and internalized homophobia "fear their own feelings" in this regard. Being "forced" gives them psychological permission to explore this aspect of their own sexuality without having to fall over the inner baggage.

I grew up with two gay parents, and I myself am bi (and have been living with another woman 15 years now). But even with that background, and our society being much more accepting of girl-on-girl, I still had to have a freakout internally a few days after I first acted on my attractions to other women way back *mumblety* years ago.  I finally snapped to the fact that I was guilt-tripping myself with a lot of ugly messages I'd soaked up via the larger culture around me (school, TV, etc.)  After calm thought, I realized that this had been the hottest, most exciting sex I'd had to that point, I fully intended to do it again, and there wasn't a damn thing wrong with the desires or with me.

My advice would be to really examine your feelings. Are you hoping to do forced-bi because the idea of being dominated is hot? Or is what attracts you the sex acts themselves? If it's the latter, consider: would you be as entertained by finding a woman with a strap-on? Or is what you really want to just be able to enjoy a little guy-on-guy without all the panic?

BDSM and D/s have a lot of taboo areas and interesting mental twists, all on their own. I'd do some searching self-examination to decide if all you need is self-permission to try a guy. Don't go to forced-bi if so. Instead, think about it, explore all your feelings, even see a counselor to work though what you feel about this.  If you do experiment, whether it's within a forced-bi or just bi experimentation, remember that condoms and lots of lube are your friend.

Today, I think forced scenes can be really, really hot, whether it's with a man, a woman, or multiples. I could live without same-sex activity if I had to, but not without the D/s dynamic in a relationship. But better yet is having my cake and eating her too, by being able to have both together in a committed LTR. Decide whether the kink is what you need, or the bi. Then do what you have to do to process that so you can enjoy yourself as you are, without letting those insidious stupid cultural messages tell you that you are wrong somehow for your own desires.




gauguin -> RE: Exploring forced bi acts(not really forced) (6/1/2009 4:35:15 PM)

I don't think there is need for some more or less "hidden" bi or gay inclination to look for "forced bi" scenes. On the contrary, having no such makes whole act much more powerful. As long as it is all about domination and humiliation, not just plain sexual satisfaction.

I am not sexually attracted to males and not interested in any vanilla same sex activities at all. So "forced bi" scene requires not only submission to "reversed" role (being passive, receiving end) but on top of that surrendering own sexuality. I find it very potent and humiliating. If I was even a bit bi, it wouldn't work like that. 




Drifa -> RE: Exploring forced bi acts(not really forced) (6/1/2009 7:14:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: gauguin
I don't think there is need for some more or less "hidden" bi or gay inclination to look for "forced bi" scenes.


Oh, I agree. But in his second post the OP basically came out and said he thought it would be easier for him to "try bi" in a forced scene. Which is not a good reason to do a forced scene.

My point is that your subconscious still knows you are having homosexual sex, regardless of whether it's a forced scene or not. And if you are trying the forced scene ONLY because you have a lot of inner turmoil about having some same-sex desires, you are just going to have MORE mental turmoil, I think. It's just a band-aid on the issue, which is that you feel guilty or ashamed of your own desires.

Better by far to do some real thinking, and maybe some counseling, and come to the place where you accept your own desires and go after them honestly.






LPslittleclip -> RE: Exploring forced bi acts(not really forced) (6/1/2009 7:15:49 PM)

for me i am not bi or attracted to men sexually but my M'lady finds male on male very hot. if a play partner works out i would of course do it as it would please my M'Lady and thus please me. my M'Lady being happy is my position so i will fulfill it within the limits set by the family.




SirNsPride -> RE: Exploring forced bi acts(not really forced) (6/1/2009 9:30:12 PM)

If not in a BDSM relationship, be careful to determine who is the alpha in the party. If not, someone will leave feeling less than satisfied. If it is agreed to who will be the star in the party, everyone will enjoy. In a BDSM relationship, there is no question, Master is in control, I may top my sub or Master may have us both serve - as he directs, as he wishes.  I agree with Danibelle. This may be a way for Master to go beyond your limits without going outside of any agreed to bond. Enjoy!




BoundDragon -> RE: Exploring forced bi acts(not really forced) (6/3/2009 12:44:01 PM)

Ah yes... I am definately bi. I have had a few different experiences with other girls but never while I was in a relationship.

Now my master & I would love another girl to join us. He would dearly like to tie me to a chair and make me watch him and another girl (and to be honest.... I'd love it too) before I get a go to play too[:)][:)][:)]

Only trouble is finding someone who lives near us and is up for that kind of fun... its been a year now and we still havent found anyone... it sucks so badly[:(]




Kinkytim313 -> RE: Exploring forced bi acts(not really forced) (6/7/2009 11:28:14 PM)

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Status: offline for me, i would only engage in play with another girl in the bdsm setting. i'm not bi, and would not ever have a one-on-one experience with another girl. but the beauty of being "forced" (i prefer the term "co-erced" =D) is that you are free from the limits of being straight or bi or any other kind of lable. not to mention if it makes Him that happy, i'm all for it.
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ORIGINAL: sunshiinedreamer

for me, i would only engage in play with another girl in the bdsm setting. i'm not bi, and would not ever have a one-on-one experience with another girl. but the beauty of being "forced" (i prefer the term "co-erced" =D) is that you are free from the limits of being straight or bi or any other kind of lable. not to mention if it makes Him that happy, i'm all for it. 


I tottally agree with sunshiinedreamer.  I am not bi nor attracted to guys but in a bdsm setting i have played with males with women involved in the play.  I have subbed to a couple and had some play sessions where another guys was involved.  Its fun and sometimes kinda hot, but I would never do anything 1 on 1 or on my own.  I think one thing that makes it hot is that she enjoys it




trueshadow -> RE: Exploring forced bi acts(not really forced) (6/8/2009 8:25:23 PM)

It's an interesting post.  I have thought about it as well.  I'm not really attracted to men, but I have had sexual encounters with several of them when I was younger.  I enjoyed it quite a bit, so I don't think it would be forced.

However, I'd be concerned about sharing fluids etc.  The virus thing has taken a lot of fun out of sex.




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