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ModeratorThree -> RE: that got ur attention!! (2/6/2006 10:19:06 PM)

There are also profiles upon profiles of men seeking wank material, as well as men pretending to be females.

It's a free site, these things happen.

ProDomina's are a part of BDSM and the lifestyle, in case you had not noticed. And to imply that CM.com somehow makes money from these profiles is laughable. Do you suppose we get a cut from the Pro sub's as well, or maybe a take in the Ghana scams also?

Anyone can create a profile, as evidenced.

Mod3




truesub4u -> RE: that got ur attention!! (2/6/2006 10:37:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ModeratorThree

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really intelligent things like secret mail controls.


Really, it's none of your business how someone else sets their mail controls.

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2 months later looks into his sent mail to discover it was never read


Hold on just a minute, I am searching for my violin, this story seems familiar.

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i do not have the time it takes to write people


Well this is certainly understandable, you're much too busy creating multiple profiles.

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my suggestion which has gone unheeded


This is called a c-l-u-e.

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let me know and i will send you my phone number, no consulting fees


Grow up junior, if your "idea's" were of merit, someone would have asked you.

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later


See- Ya!



Mod3








Actually nice to see that the Mods can post their thoughts on here too...

I do believe your response was well rounded. Each part asked and answered. And still... not happy... goes to show.. no matter how hard we try.. someones not going to be happy... (I state this because of having my own on line game league on another site... no ones ever happy with every little thing.. but we do try)




FelinePersuasion -> RE: that got ur attention!! (2/6/2006 11:02:32 PM)

Your post was completly and utterly incomprehensible Right2me.




Real0ne -> RE: that got ur attention!! (2/6/2006 11:10:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ModeratorThree

There are also profiles upon profiles of men seeking wank material, as well as men pretending to be females.

It's a free site, these things happen.

ProDomina's are a part of BDSM and the lifestyle, in case you had not noticed. And to imply that CM.com somehow makes money from these profiles is laughable. Do you suppose we get a cut from the Pro sub's as well, or maybe a take in the Ghana scams also?

Anyone can create a profile, as evidenced.

Mod3



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ORIGINAL: ModeratorThree

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What I don't get about collarme is how they make any mony here


The site was not intended as a money maker, it was created to provide a place for others to meet and explore.

Call it a labor of love.

Mod3




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ORIGINAL: cloudboy
My pet peeve are the voluminous number of business advertisers here, aka, pros. I would prefer if all the pro's had to register as such on the site, so when searching through profiles, they could be screened out.


i grabbed the wrong quote i was not implying that cm was making money off of the pros on here.

that is what everyone thought, yet you have profile after profile of pro dommes who are on here for the purpose of making money. its not like i have a super huge issue with them being on the same site i would just like to see another selection put in for pro domme along with the sub dom domm selections so i dont have to read the whole profile and at the end it says pro domme and there are thread after thread about this. so dont take my word for it look for yourself

and then another selection for male wank if they are as numerous as the pro dommes.

not anyone can create a well thought out system however, as evidenced



i hope that clears things up









cloudboy -> RE: that got ur attention!! (2/6/2006 11:15:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ModeratorThree

Do you suppose we get a cut from the Pro
Mod3


I heard you got three dollars ($3.00) a swat.




AAkasha -> RE: that got ur attention!! (2/6/2006 11:15:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: ModeratorThree

There are also profiles upon profiles of men seeking wank material, as well as men pretending to be

Ghana scams also?

Anyone can create a profile, as evidenced.

Mod3



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ORIGINAL: ModeratorThree

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What I don't get about collarme is how they make any mony here


The site was not intended as a money maker, it was created to provide a place for others to meet and explore.

Call it a labor of love.

Mod3




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ORIGINAL: cloudboy
My pet peeve are the voluminous number of business advertisers here, aka, pros. I would prefer if all the pro's had to register as such on the site, so when searching through profiles, they could be screened out.


i grabbed the wrong quote i was not implying that cm was making money off of the pros on here.

that is what everyone thought, yet you have profile after profile of pro dommes who are on here for the purpose of making money. its not like i have a super huge issue with them being on the same site i would just like to see another selection put in for pro domme along with the sub dom domm selections so i dont have to read the whole profile and at the end it says pro domme and there are thread after thread about this. so dont take my word for it look for yourself



i hope that clears things up

[Moderator Note: Please keep your font at 4 or below- Thanks]



How many times do people have to point it out to you? It's a FREE site.
If you don't like it, leave.
How many fake profiles do you have on here? I could say I think all people who make more than one profile should be banned permanently. How about that? I'm sure you will last around here about 1 more week at this pace then disappear and reappear in about 2 weeks with a brand new name.

Here's the big newsflash: If the site forced pro femdoms to advertise in another section they'd still advertise in the non-pro section -- because some of them are lifestylers, and some of them are unethical. Some of them are men with -- gasp -- multiple profiles. Who is going to police, verify, moderate all these profiles? You might have a tremendous amount of free time on your hands to be here and complain literally all day long for days in a row; other people don't have that kind of spare time to maintain a FREE site.

Akasha




Real0ne -> RE: that got ur attention!! (2/6/2006 11:21:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

How many times do people have to point it out to you? It's a FREE site.
If you don't like it, leave.
How many fake profiles do you have on here? I could say I think all people who make more than one profile should be banned permanently. How about that? I'm sure you will last around here about 1 more week at this pace then disappear and reappear in about 2 weeks with a brand new name.

Here's the big newsflash: If the site forced pro femdoms to advertise in another section they'd still advertise in the non-pro section -- because some of them are lifestylers, and some of them are unethical. Some of them are men with -- gasp -- multiple profiles. Who is going to police, verify, moderate all these profiles? You might have a tremendous amount of free time on your hands to be here and complain literally all day long for days in a row; other people don't have that kind of spare time to maintain a FREE site.

Akasha



well if yo uare fortunate enough ti have the same name that is actually working then yo9u are a very lucky person. maybe you havent noticed there are zillions of dupes on here because profiles mysteriously have stopped working. so whats your problem?

you know it would be a miracle if certain people would learn how to read!!!!!!!

i think they should have a ban for people who cant understand what they read!




AAkasha -> RE: that got ur attention!! (2/6/2006 11:22:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

How many times do people have to point it out to you? It's a FREE site.
If you don't like it, leave.
How many fake profiles do you have on here? I could say I think all people who make more than one profile should be banned permanently. How about that? I'm sure you will last around here about 1 more week at this pace then disappear and reappear in about 2 weeks with a brand new name.

Here's the big newsflash: If the site forced pro femdoms to advertise in another section they'd still advertise in the non-pro section -- because some of them are lifestylers, and some of them are unethical. Some of them are men with -- gasp -- multiple profiles. Who is going to police, verify, moderate all these profiles? You might have a tremendous amount of free time on your hands to be here and complain literally all day long for days in a row; other people don't have that kind of spare time to maintain a FREE site.

Akasha



well if yo uare fortunate enough ti have the same name that is actually working then yo9u are a very lucky person. maybe you havent noticed there are zillions of dupes on here because profiles mysteriously have stopped working. so whats your problem?

you know it would be a miracle if certain people would learn how to read!!!!!!! woudnt it?


Are you drunk?

I'll see if you make more sense/type coherently tomorrow.

Akasha




RavenMuse -> RE: that got ur attention!! (2/6/2006 11:26:08 PM)

The guy is 'supposed' to be 45? I've not met any sane person over the age of 25 who uses text speak in email or forums!

Come to think of it, most of those using it under that age don't seem massivly sane either!




Real0ne -> RE: that got ur attention!! (2/6/2006 11:28:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
Are you drunk?
I'll see if you make more sense/type coherently tomorrow.
Akasha


no reason to bother it hasnt helped yet!!!!!!!!




Real0ne -> RE: that got ur attention!! (2/6/2006 11:40:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

The guy is 'supposed' to be 45? I've not met any sane person over the age of 25 who uses text speak in email or forums!

Come to think of it, most of those using it under that age don't seem massivly sane either!


i love the psychologist joke: all the world is insane but thine and i, and sometimes i wonder about thine.




cloudboy -> RE: that got ur attention!! (2/6/2006 11:44:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

How many times do people have to point it out to you? It's a FREE site.


That really has nothing to do with the issue presented here. The issue is, do you add more filters, or do you leave it up the users to navigate their way through the IDs. People lying and creating false profiles is really besides the point --- that's a user issue, a filter issue is a site question, and its a valid question to ask.

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If you don't like it, leave.


What, criticisms and suggestions aren't allowed in your universe?

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Here's the big newsflash: If the site forced pro femdoms to advertise in another section they'd still advertise in the non-pro section -- because some of them are lifestylers, and some of them are unethical. Some of them are men with -- gasp -- multiple profiles. Who is going to police, verify, moderate all these profiles? You might have a tremendous amount of free time on your hands to be here and complain literally all day long for days in a row; other people don't have that kind of spare time to maintain a FREE site.


Under this logic, I suppose we should just give up on all search criterea: age, weight, pictures, location, and gender because people might lie about them as well. I think you are confusing user (ethical) issues with site construction ones. Adding a "married" or "pro domme" category would be a relatively simple thing to add to the already existing menu of characteristics, (assuming there was no prohibitive cost involved.) I don't see the need to dismiss someone for making this suggestion.

All that said, I think CM is a very good site and boooku public service.




veronicaofML -> RE: that got ur attention!! (2/7/2006 12:01:45 AM)

actually if you had tried to look before running your mouth..
there ARE selections FOR each style...on the otherside of this.

open thy eyes
look around
help yourself FIRST before whining and sniffling

people like you give me reason to explain to my shrink WHY i hate people in this world..

ya aint got no sense son.
you're all mouth and no brains




Real0ne -> RE: that got ur attention!! (2/7/2006 12:25:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: veronicaofML

actually if you had tried to look before running your mouth..
there ARE selections FOR each style...on the otherside of this.

open thy eyes
look around
help yourself FIRST before whining and sniffling

people like you give me reason to explain to my shrink WHY i hate people in this world..

ya aint got no sense son.
you're all mouth and no brains




with out reading his post i will go out on a limb here and say that i think he is po'd because there are so many people on here that are already taken and you wind up reading thru thier whole profile to find that out. many of them have long profiles and when they get collared to simplify things they just add happily collared at the bottom. it seems like a thread that really went wild. i do see his point and as cm grows this is going to become a bigger and bigger frustration for people, especially male doms i presume. like cloud boy said the structure is aleady set up so its a few minutes of editing to fix this by adding an inactive button for those who still want to show their profiles and are not looking.

Personally i feel the best way to accomplish a lot of these things are to put a check box so a person can check profiles they never want to see again. talk about saving bandwidth! a while back it wasnt so bad because a person could kind of remember which ones they did not want to see but now there are so many its impossible. this would cut bandwidth usage i bet by over 70%. another suggestion i made a long time ago that went ignored. many other dating sites do this too... 70%! wanna make a little wager mod 3? ;)




MsSonnetMarwood -> RE: that got ur attention!! (2/7/2006 5:01:43 AM)

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with out reading his post i will go out on a limb here and say that i think he is po'd because there are so many people on here that are already taken and you wind up reading thru thier whole profile to find that out.



His original gripe is that he has had to read through whole profiles only to find that a submissive is happily owned, and feels that they should not have profiles up if not looking.

The irony? His profile says he's miserably married half way though his own profile, sometime AFTER his criteria about the wannabe sub he's looking for is listed.




RavenMuse -> RE: that got ur attention!! (2/7/2006 5:19:54 AM)

So he has a tiny valid point hiden and largly ignored because of the stupidly counter-productive way he tried to present it. Maybe he should learn from that.

Sure when I find someone I'll be expecting that if all goes well and she asks (Begs?[:)]) for my collar and of course if I accept, that she would alter her profile from seeking dominant men, to seeking just friends.

However, it isn't a big hardship and frankly this is the net. For every one person who does it right there will be 49 who don't. Deal with it, lower the blood pressure and chill! Or ask for your money back and go elsewhere!




MsSonnetMarwood -> RE: that got ur attention!! (2/7/2006 5:37:10 AM)

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So he has a tiny valid point hiden and largly ignored because of the stupidly counter-productive way he tried to present it. Maybe he should learn from that.



I actually do think CM should add a "single/married/involved" filter on to profiles. I think adding degrees how happily one is involved/married is a bit much though ;-)

Of course, I'd use it to filter out the married folk :-)

If I used it at all that is ~ the majority of email I exchange is not "pick up" oriented at all, so it doesn't much matter to me. It's great to have an exchange of ideas and thoughts with someone who is actually happy, even if it means they are involved LOL




RavenMuse -> RE: that got ur attention!! (2/7/2006 6:00:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MsSonnetMarwood
I actually do think CM should add a "single/married/involved" filter on to profiles. I think adding degrees how happily one is involved/married is a bit much though ;-)

Of course, I'd use it to filter out the married folk :-)


Whilst I would find a "Mono/Mono but can cope with poly partner/poly" filter to be of more use.

Of course I'd use it to filter out the Mono's[:D]

Somehow I don't think an "Honest/dishonest" filter would work, but it would be very useful if it did[:)]

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If I used it at all that is ~ the majority of email I exchange is not "pick up" oriented at all, so it doesn't much matter to me. It's great to have an exchange of ideas and thoughts with someone who is actually happy, even if it means they are involved LOL


Same here, Far more of my mail has been chatting to folks from various parts of the globe. Some very sound and lovely folks hereabouts on the boards.




Arpig -> RE: that got ur attention!! (2/7/2006 6:02:38 AM)

What I don't quite understand is how it is that people complain about wasting their time surfing through profiles that do not match their criteria or writing & sending emails that don't get read or answered, and yet they seem to have plenty of time to spend complaining about the time they waste surfing or writing & sending those emails.
I really don't see the problem, but then again I do not expect instant gratification. Has nobody here ever looked for a job...mail out 200-300 resumes, get 2-3 replies.

I think it is an extension of the growing desire for the nanny-state (or in this case the nanny-board) to protect us all. Since some people do not put their search criteria right at the very top of their profiles for the convenience of those oh-so-busy folks fishing online for whatever it is they are seeking, it seems you want the board to do it for you, you want to save yourself some time...give it up altogether, I really cannot see somebody with such an inflated sense of the value of their time having a lot of success in the dating/relationship game anyway. Guess what...the time you waste surfing or writing & sending pointlessly isn't worth much, no more than the time you waste whining about it, or the time you waste watching tv...in fact it isn't worth a thing, because unless you are doing these things at work (shit, the boss is coming!!) you are doing it during your free time...what was that? FREE time. And if you think your free time could be put to better use doing something else, then by all means do so, but why bother whining about how you need the board to manage the site to prevent you from having to do anything more than enter your desired criteria and get 100% guaranteed, pre-screened & vetted search results. If you want that sort of thing, pay a matchmaking site, the last time I checked CM isn't even really a dating site...it’s a discussion forum, with a private email function and a searchable expanded profile that allows one to be reasonably certain to find profiles of people who match what you are interested in...not bad for the price of admission if you ask me.

Another little bit of information that may surprise you; some people on here didn’t write our profiles with the intent to attract the laziest and most self centered members…some people actually wrote their profiles to introduce themselves and to give a bit of an idea about who and what they are. That really shouldn’t surprise you, but then again given the inordinate value you place on your free time it probably does.

I do agree, however, that suggestions should be welcomed by the board, and it is my understanding that they are. However if you make what you think is a good suggestion, and it isn’t acted on, there is probably a good reason for it ($, time, difficulty in implementation, etc.), I doubt it is because the Pro-Domme lobby has pressured the folks who run CM to ignore your suggestions (I love that mental image…a cabal of leather-clad dominas gathered together, each sitting on a kneeling subbie-boy’s back, to plot ways to control the board…first we take collarme.com, then we take the world..muhahahahahaha!).

Now that I have wasted a good half-hour of my precious free time writing this, and it is unlikely that you will really take any of it to heart, I respectfully request that you compensate me…please remit the sum of $0.00 to my pay-pal account, to exactly compensate me for the value of my time spent doing so.

“Have a nice day”
~Mankind (a.k.a. Mick Foley)




AAkasha -> RE: that got ur attention!! (2/7/2006 8:45:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

How many times do people have to point it out to you? It's a FREE site.


That really has nothing to do with the issue presented here. The issue is, do you add more filters, or do you leave it up the users to navigate their way through the IDs. People lying and creating false profiles is really besides the point --- that's a user issue, a filter issue is a site question, and its a valid question to ask.

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If you don't like it, leave.


What, criticisms and suggestions aren't allowed in your universe?

quote:

Here's the big newsflash: If the site forced pro femdoms to advertise in another section they'd still advertise in the non-pro section -- because some of them are lifestylers, and some of them are unethical. Some of them are men with -- gasp -- multiple profiles. Who is going to police, verify, moderate all these profiles? You might have a tremendous amount of free time on your hands to be here and complain literally all day long for days in a row; other people don't have that kind of spare time to maintain a FREE site.


Under this logic, I suppose we should just give up on all search criterea: age, weight, pictures, location, and gender because people might lie about them as well. I think you are confusing user (ethical) issues with site construction ones. Adding a "married" or "pro domme" category would be a relatively simple thing to add to the already existing menu of characteristics, (assuming there was no prohibitive cost involved.) I don't see the need to dismiss someone for making this suggestion.

All that said, I think CM is a very good site and boooku public service.



Criticisms are fine, but the kind of griping about being able to keep preferences/filters hidden is ridiculous. Maybe it would take Collarme 10 hours, maybe it would take them 100 hours to change that. We don't know that. We know that this is a free site, so expecting them to bend over backwards and volunteer more time (without making it a pay site) is unrealistic. Make suggestions, sure. Complain that it is unethical, or unfair, or caters to pro femdoms, or is a conspiracy, etc. -- over and over and over again -- that's a waste of time. Precious time that these subs should be using in refining their search.

Another poster pointed out on this thread that there's a growing trend that people expect things to be done for them. Even on a free site, they want the programming of the site to e changed so *they* don't waste precious time. In real life, when you date, you don't get a sheet of paper from the woman up front stating that once she finds out you are a certain religion, it will all liklihood end. You don't find out on the first date that she is allergic to dogs. You don't get a huge list of criteria to help *you* not waste your precious time.

Anything worth having is worth waiting for and working toward.

I can guarantee you, if a filter was added to identify pro dommes, the next wave of whining would be from subs who find out a woman is a pro femdom in her part time job, but not for a living. Or that she does phone domination, but not in the flesh. Or, that some femdoms are (gasp) not checking the proper box on their profile. There will be a never ending list of what Collarme can do to make it easier, safer and give more instant gratification to the submissives who have plenty of time to complain, but no time to refine their search -- or, better yet -- refine themselves.

Personally, I believe cloudboy/RealOne are the same guy, and he uses one to support the other. I find this offensive, and it wastes my time. It makes my Collarme "forum" experience less rewarding. I think Collame should make it so that only one profile can be on each IP address, or that posters caught using multiple profiles in the forums and pretending to be two different people should be booted off.

Do you see me going on a crusade about this and posting over and over again? No. It is what it is. It is a free site. "free" attracts the wankers, the lazy, the trolls, the fakes and the losers. I wish Collarme would keep the forums free, and make the personals side a PAY site so the forums would not be clogged up with so much whining from subs that are frustrated they haven't met the femdom-of-their-dreams, or that the only femdoms that will give them the time of day will expect cash in return.

Akasha




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