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LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Theraputic Flogging the physical and emotional benefits (2/7/2006 12:17:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ExistentialSteel but isn’t D/s more about both of you enjoying it? It? It what? I enjoy being used, I enjoy submitting, I enjoy the fear, I enjoy everything about pain play except the pain part. I agree, relationships should be about joy and fulfillment. But no person gets exactly the same joy and fulfillment out of the exact same things. What matters is finding COMPATIBLE joy and fulfillment. quote: but when you mix ritual D/s into something that is totally for the sake of the Dom, you are negating the importance of the sub. Not at all. How can the ritual be completed without the vessel of the submissive to work through? quote: Yeah, I know the whole thing is confusing, but, I’m telling you, something doesn’t quite ring true with this concept of theraputic flogging. I think the problem is that you're working on Ds as a level of "direct pleasure." There are many levels of pleasure, direct, indirect, immediate, long term, etc. What matters is that everyone's pleasure is existing and fulfilled- not that their level of pleasure is the same or direct.

ExistentialSteel -> RE: Theraputic Flogging the physical and emotional benefits (2/7/2006 12:31:43 PM)
LA, I've read your posts and views enough to get a feel for what you do and enjoy. I'm always impressed with your biting insight, but I'm surprised that you see a good side to theraputic flogging. Maybe the wording is what bothers me in that it is a cold, clinical description meaning something like let me get the soreness out of my arm by flogging you. Compatible enjoyment is always what we are after and if the relationship means humiliation of the sub is applicable, great, but to think of D/s (avoiding use of it) in terms of a clinical remedy, dividing into 24 quqdrants and all, detracts from....things.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Theraputic Flogging the physical and emotional benefits (2/7/2006 12:37:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ExistentialSteel Compatible enjoyment is always what we are after and if the relationship means humiliation of the sub is applicable, great, but to think of D/s (avoiding use of it) in terms of a clinical remedy, dividing into 24 quqdrants and all, detracts from....things. Personally I find the whole "kneel at the door naked every day before I get to work" routine really tiring, boring, and pointless. But a lot of people get a LOT of joy from it.

truesub4u -> RE: Theraputic Flogging the physical and emotional benefits (2/7/2006 3:29:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross I enjoy being used, I enjoy submitting, I enjoy the fear, I enjoy everything about pain play except the pain part. LMAO... Lucky you trip me out sometimes. But I too enjoy being used... enjoy being submissive... love the fear... love pain play... especially the pain. ..... but this doesn't mean I have to nor tolerate.. being someones punching bag. And that includes being flogged, caned, whipped across my ass ...... not just punched about when I state punching bag. Where as you find the whole kneeling naked everyday before work routine really boring, tiring, and pointless..... I find reading how people that submit and become slaves... say...and honestly think.. they have no say about a damn thing at all in their lives... ... the same way... tiring, boring and pointless. But as you stated before.. different strokes.. for different folks..

KnightofMists -> RE: Theraputic Flogging the physical and emotional benefits (2/7/2006 3:40:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SubjectProperty What do the slave owners think? sounds boring!

seaturtle50 -> RE: Theraputic Flogging the physical and emotional benefits (2/7/2006 3:42:15 PM)
quote: my Master has the right to use me in this way if he wishes. However, in nearly 2 years, it has never happened. However, when he does feel frustrated or is in a bad mood, he tends to be rougher on me than normal, and perhaps more terse and even brutal in his words. Like you, i consider it an honor to receive this, knowing he trusts me to not go off the deep end. Knowing he is loved regardless. He has never put more on me than i could handle (took me to the teetering edge before, but never pushed me over). While it can be difficult to be of service in this way, i know how he feels about me and what he thinks of me, so i know the harsher behavior is a venting of frustrations. i am happy to receive it. i have never felt like his physical or emotional whipping post. Sounds lovely to me! quote: Well, yeah, all that is possible, but isn’t D/s more about both of you enjoying it? I whip because I like to cause pain, not as a means to break my dark moods. She wants to be whipped, but not as a means of therapy for me, but as submission to me and that leads to stress release in her as her endorphin level builds to spacing levels. The way this is presented goes against the bright side of D/s. You can play it rough and that works, but when you mix ritual D/s into something that is totally for the sake of the Dom, you are negating the importance of the sub. Yeah, I know the whole thing is confusing, but, I’m telling you, something doesn’t quite ring true with this concept of theraputic flogging While i cannot <yet> speak for the mindset or enjoyment level of the Domme who may one day choose to use me in this fashion, i can say that i am certain that i would enjoy being used in this manner. Seems like it would be a form of emotional and mental SM, which should go nicely with the physical. In some way, it even seems more "pure" to me. That this may somehow satisfy both the sadist in Her, and the stress of the moment. Regardless Her motivation or resulting feelings, to think of myself as available to Her for this use causes me to somehow feel more prized. Then again, i may just be "quirky" [8\|] st50

KnightofMists -> RE: Theraputic Flogging the physical and emotional benefits (2/7/2006 3:46:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ExistentialSteel LA, I've read your posts and views enough to get a feel for what you do and enjoy. I'm always impressed with your biting insight, but I'm surprised that you see a good side to theraputic flogging. Maybe the wording is what bothers me in that it is a cold, clinical description meaning something like let me get the soreness out of my arm by flogging you. I agree with you in the clincial description... it seems to lack any emotional passion, it definitely is not a play I would every be doing! , I like alittle spice with my meal!

seaturtle50 -> RE: Theraputic Flogging the physical and emotional benefits (2/7/2006 3:49:55 PM)
quote: it definitely is not a play I would every be doing! Maybe that is part of the appeal to this one. In some way it seems less like play. st50

KnightofMists -> RE: Theraputic Flogging the physical and emotional benefits (2/7/2006 4:24:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: seaturtle50 quote: it definitely is not a play I would every be doing! Maybe that is part of the appeal to this one. In some way it seems less like play. st50 Yup... I can see that... some people just don't want to have "Fun"

Misstoyou -> RE: Theraputic Flogging the physical and emotional benefits (2/7/2006 5:01:05 PM)
There is no doubt that flogging my submissive is theraputic for me, and he well knows it. I had an accident some time ago, and now my shoulders are my Achilles heel for carrying tension, day in and day out. Chiropractors and shiatsu massage therapists have given up on the knots in my shoulders. But I get relief and release flogging this particular submissive. My "beating" him this way is not his favorite thing, though he's a pain slut in other ways. But he does it for me, for as long as I need. Thank gawd he's very fit. And my body's responding, at the moment, from just thinking about it. [:)]

MasterOwnskitty -> RE: Theraputic Flogging the physical and emotional benefits (2/7/2006 10:31:14 PM)
i really appreciated SubjectProperty's way of putting the whole thing -- and i agree with seaturtle50 that there is a certain appeal that it seems less like play. i tend to like the more clinical and serious. Master does use it for His own personal therapy so so to speak, to release tension from work and actually it makes for good exercise when the weather outside is crappy. Anyway, i liked it. [:)]

proudsub -> RE: Theraputic Flogging the physical and emotional benefits (2/7/2006 10:41:17 PM)
I would love to be used this way but it won't happen.

Sirandlittle1 -> RE: Theraputic Flogging the physical and emotional benefits (2/8/2006 12:14:44 AM)
Personally, the original post was reminiscent of every Dom i came across whilst searching. Im so relieved its over, and i dont get to hear bollox like this spouted at me. little1

seaturtle50 -> RE: Theraputic Flogging the physical and emotional benefits (2/8/2006 12:32:12 AM)
For the record <is anyone keeping track?> none of my comments in this thread were specifically about the OP. They were about ... well, what i said. st50

truesub4u -> RE: Theraputic Flogging the physical and emotional benefits (2/8/2006 10:51:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: seaturtle50 For the record <is anyone keeping track?> none of my comments in this thread were specifically about the OP. They were about ... well, what i said. st50 Noticed... laughed... waited for next one too... LOL

Slipstreme -> RE: Theraputic Flogging the physical and emotional benefits (2/8/2006 12:43:25 PM)
I will agree that the OP's description seemed lacking in emotion, and emotional attachment to the slave, but that seems to be the OP's style, as I have seen in her/his? other threads. However, the action itself seems like it has merit to be therapeutic for both Dom and Sub, Top and Bottom. The only problem I see with it is that it assumes this is the only way to go about it, when in fact there are many ways. As I had mentioned before. I had an upcoming session with a friend, and had fallen into a rut as of late, and was likewise very frustrated. Well, we get together, hang out a while, go to our first SCA meeting (yay!) and in general have a very nice meet. We go to my place and the flogging begins. No I didn't go through the whole 24 quadrants thing: too new to keep track of that many targets. Somewhere in it, the tables are turned and I am the one under the whip and end up in the longest, hardest session I've ever had, turning me shades of red I didn't know existed. Quite frankly, I've never felt better. Therapeutic? The whole thing was. It was for him too, because he has been in a personal rut as of late as well. Driving him home in subspace. Now that was an experience! Most of our motivation to flog and be flogged is simply: I want to. Works for us.

slave4Darby3d -> RE: Theraputic Flogging the physical and emotional benefits (2/14/2006 2:33:39 AM)
I'm really starting to wonder where your source is for your posts. Are you quoting portions of someones article series, or a book, thesis? You jump too much between person and tense for this to be all you...(IMHO) Anyway - regards the subject. You asked Dominants, but I will answer for myself. I enjoy it when Master floggs his frustration on me. In fact, sometimes I suggest it when I see he's a bit tense, or been working especially hard. He prefers his assortment of canes and his favorite single tail, but it is really two of his floggers I wait for. And it is therapeutic for both of us. There are sometimes I feel like I really need a good flogging - pain, tears and marks. (masochist trifecta) It is a little intoxicating afterwards, when he has untied me, the blindfold comes off and I steady myself - then see the sweat glistening on his body, feel the warm moist grips of his recently used selections and see him survey his handy work and see the appreciation in my face... no spray - no way

ReluctantDom -> RE: Theraputic Flogging the physical and emotional benefits (2/14/2006 3:42:20 AM)
From my point of view there is a lot of confusion on BDSM websites about slaves and subs. Surely a slave can be used for whatever purpose its Dominant sees fit including theraputic flogging. Sensible Owners will appreciate the value of their property and impose limits on themselves. In just the same way that they would drive their car carefully because the opposite would affect value and performance, they are careful how they use and maintain their slaves. On the other hand a submissive negotiates preferences and limits. I know that a lot of submissives like to think of themselves as slaves but this is ridiculous as few allow themselves to be kept and used in a 'traditional' way.

Cloudz -> RE: Theraputic Flogging the physical and emotional benefits (2/14/2006 5:13:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressFire70 My first thought: I didn't know that the slave scripted a flogging or any kind of play. My second thought: Cathartic flogging, whether for the Master or slave, can't be scripted. If it's a true cathartic flogging, the Universe scripts it, not us. Excellent point! Fire

Cloudz -> RE: Theraputic Flogging the physical and emotional benefits (2/14/2006 5:14:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KnightofMists quote: ORIGINAL: SubjectProperty What do the slave owners think? I second that! sounds boring!

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