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RE: OWNER/SLAVE - Consensual Association in the 21st Ce... - 2/7/2006 10:01:32 PM   
Tapestry


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WTF


lol, don't ask!
somethings are best left alone,
and trust me when i say you really aren't missing anything.

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RE: OWNER/SLAVE - Consensual Association in the 21st Ce... - 2/7/2006 10:11:16 PM   
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And I'll have you know...I sometimes need Lucky to think for me.. because I have quite often opened my mouth without thinking on here before... and she's helped me shut it again. Keeping me out of trouble with other posters... and the Moderators...

LUCKY.... you keep right on stating you opinions like everyone else does.... you have brains.. wits.. and humor... not everyone always agrees... but that's what makes them your own opinions... I happen to enjoy reading... learning.. from your opinions... (though I get confused sometimes and have to break out a dictionary... I still enjoy)
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there ya go. i may not like what she has to say...or how she says it...like someone else here i know..but ya bet yer boots she aint normally far off the taget..
i'll 2nd the motion for Lucky!

there!
MY 2 cents
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RE: OWNER/SLAVE - Consensual Association in the 21st Ce... - 2/8/2006 12:06:38 AM   
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Ok Ok... chill out... no need to start name calling.
... truesub ... remember those promises.







I remembered.... thanks for reminder..... (shucks... there went my fun... LOL)

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RE: OWNER/SLAVE - Consensual Association in the 21st Ce... - 2/8/2006 12:18:24 AM   
seaturtle50


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Status: offline 		Sorry Don't want to spoil your fun ... jusy tryin to look out for ya!

Hey - come morning it will be two days since you got into trouble ... you should be pretty safe to do whatever you want by then!

st50

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RE: OWNER/SLAVE - Consensual Association in the 21st Ce... - 2/8/2006 3:49:15 AM   
SubjectProperty


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RE: OWNER/SLAVE - Consensual Association in the 21st Ce... - 2/8/2006 10:55:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SubjectProperty

Then you note wrong! You suffer from the same false perceptions has the blogging gameplayers. I still have a profile but if you click onto it from here it shows up has no profile.


Thanks for the heads up! You are right and I now have had the opportunity to read (re-read) your profile. Nice to see you (again).

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RE: OWNER/SLAVE - Consensual Association in the 21st Ce... - 2/8/2006 11:13:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SubjectProperty

Yes Madam they do! I have also stated that if you are unsure of any point that I make within a statement then please message me and I wil explain it to you in private. Thank you for your input and comments so far.



She can't---you don't exist

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RE: OWNER/SLAVE - Consensual Association in the 21st Ce... - 2/8/2006 3:10:30 PM   
veronicaofML


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ORIGINAL: SubjectProperty

Then you note wrong! You suffer from the same false perceptions has the blogging gameplayers. I still have a profile but if you click onto it from here it shows up has no profile.
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NO it doesnt

there is NO profile!


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RE: OWNER/SLAVE - Consensual Association in the 21st Ce... - 2/8/2006 9:01:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists


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ORIGINAL: SubjectProperty

Madam,
I make no sweeping statement that I alone have all the answers or that my way is the only way. Not everyone will agree with me and you are obviously one of those good people. Thank you for your input.



yourMissTess.... I think you just been dismissed from the discussion!



Goodness!!! I ignore a post for a day and ...I'm dismissed??!!??

Well that simply won't do. Except that it appears that all of you have done such a wonderful job, that anything I could add would be superfluous.

And Lucky, he's just pissed that he couldn't ever be as sharp, concise and lucid as you. Not that you needed me or anyone else to mention it, I just wanted to.



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RE: OWNER/SLAVE - Consensual Association in the 21st Ce... - 2/11/2006 4:05:01 AM   
bear372217355


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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

Could it be there is a confusion here, between traditional, forced slavery, and consensual slavery? They are night and day. As with most words in the English language, sometimes the same word can have a difference in its various meanings.

Just my 2 cents.

And yes, i am one of those 30,000 consensual slaves, owned and marked property of my Master and owner, given over to him of my own free will.


By that very definition then, you are not a slave. A slave has no free will in the context you have articled.


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RE: OWNER/SLAVE - Consensual Association in the 21st Ce... - 2/11/2006 4:11:04 AM   
bear372217355


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Status: offline 		Has anyone given thought to the fact that this person could in fact be an aggitator sent here to wind us all up or start threads trying to validate himself so as to draw out persons involved in illegal activities. Creating reason to have the site raided by the current powers that be.

His whole holier then thou attitude and deep thoughts like Jack Handy's, just seem so contrived.

Then again, I did do a half a lot of "shrooms" and tequila in the 90's. Something might have been fried.

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RE: OWNER/SLAVE - Consensual Association in the 21st Ce... - 2/11/2006 5:05:34 AM   
slave4Darby3d


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Status: offline 		you know - I keep seeing references to "by definition" with regards to slavery...

where is this magical dictionary with the concise definition of what is and what is not a slave?

what definition prevents me from giving myself over to be a slave to another?

please elighten me... apparently my whole idea of myself and the expression of who I am in my life does not comply with the elusive "slave by definition" guidelines...

with respect, where warranted...

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RE: OWNER/SLAVE - Consensual Association in the 21st Ce... - 2/11/2006 5:25:28 AM   
bear372217355


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Status: offline 		I was addressing subjectproperty's definition. The text book definition is up to debate as well, but in your case much like my own, it is purely up to you/I, as to what slavery means, between you/I and your/our owner. I understand your confusion.

That's the best part of BDSM, there is not right or wrong way to fulfill your desires, as long as they stay SSC and suit you and your owner.

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RE: OWNER/SLAVE - Consensual Association in the 21st Ce... - 2/11/2006 4:27:53 PM   
NeedToUseYou


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Status: offline 		Well, I read the whole thing. Eyes are tired now.

Anyway, I don't see any problem with the article. I'm just not sure how it relates to BDSM.

Here's why:
BDSM slaves aren't real slaves and everyone knows they're not like a real slave. They aren't real in the traditional sense. A real slave can't leave, a BDSM slave can, thus why it really doesn't relate. I think the problem you are having relating to people is that you want a "real" slave, whereas there are no "real" slaves on this board. Alot of them will do most of the things a real slave would have to do for there BDSM master. But none of them would sit by and let you do everything, a real slave would have endure. So, I think people get offended when you bring up "real" enslavement topics, because it seems like you are pro "real" slavery. Or it is perceived that you are challenging there "slave" status.

Whether that is the case or not, just guessing here.

Anyway, the point is I'm sure there are "real" slaves, but BDSM isn't really where they are located. And thus a discussion that mixes "real" slaves with BDSM slaves is bound to cause emotional upset. Because, they are "real" BDSM slaves, but that is nothing like what you are refering to and thus it's apples and oranges.

Understand that BDSM is all in peoples heads, a slave is no more a slave than a master. They just act certain ways because for whatever reason they identify themselves as such. But the overwhelming vast majority of slaves are only going to be a slave to a master contigent upon how the master treats them. Real slaves don't have this choice.

So, it just doesn't make sense to keep bringing up "real" slavery to a lifestyle where the word "slave" isn't a literal term. There are no real slaves on this board. There are no true masters on this board. Why because all the slaves can leave. At the core it's deeply entrenched role-playing of self-imposed ideas about what a person is.

Anyway, I think I addressed the article, while interesting, it just has nothing to do with BDSM.



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RE: OWNER/SLAVE - Consensual Association in the 21st Ce... - 2/11/2006 5:12:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bear372217355

I was addressing subjectproperty's definition. The text book definition is up to debate as well, but in your case much like my own, it is purely up to you/I, as to what slavery means, between you/I and your/our owner. I understand your confusion.

That's the best part of BDSM, there is not right or wrong way to fulfill your desires, as long as they stay SSC and suit you and your owner.


Thank you for clearing that up. Not that i cared that you said i am not a slave. i found that to be amusing, but it made me form an opinion of you that may have been false.

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RE: OWNER/SLAVE - Consensual Association in the 21st Ce... - 2/12/2006 3:29:05 AM   
bear372217355


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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie


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ORIGINAL: bear372217355

I was addressing subjectproperty's definition. The text book definition is up to debate as well, but in your case much like my own, it is purely up to you/I, as to what slavery means, between you/I and your/our owner. I understand your confusion.

That's the best part of BDSM, there is not right or wrong way to fulfill your desires, as long as they stay SSC and suit you and your owner.


Thank you for clearing that up. Not that i cared that you said i am not a slave. i found that to be amusing, but it made me form an opinion of you that may have been false.

Yes ma'am, I just realized what went wrong with that quote there, sorry for any shoke to your system and all. My most humblest and sincerest apologies.


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RE: OWNER/SLAVE - Consensual Association in the 21st Ce... - 2/12/2006 8:09:45 AM   
ownedgirlie


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ORIGINAL: bear372217355



Yes ma'am, I just realized what went wrong with that quote there, sorry for any shoke to your system and all. My most humblest and sincerest apologies.



No worries...my systems is and was in tact

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RE: OWNER/SLAVE - Consensual Association in the 21st Ce... - 2/12/2006 9:05:38 AM   
amayos


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Status: offline 		An interesting, if not long-winded essay. Though I'm not certain where you have derived many of your factual sources throughout, your touching upon the symbiosis between modern Master and 'slave creature' was well articulated.

Name sources, thin down your text body, check for grammatical errors and run spell check, however. It will certainly reinforce your credibility for that impending debate, especially of the Ad Hominem variety.






< Message edited by amayos -- 2/12/2006 9:06:42 AM >

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RE: OWNER/SLAVE - Consensual Association in the 21st Ce... - 2/13/2006 5:52:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Having read the treads the article poster did not start the insults,Others did so. You should realise that and cease being one sided in your totally unfair critisism.

< Message edited by TalkingNonesense -- 2/13/2006 5:53:03 AM >

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RE: OWNER/SLAVE - Consensual Association in the 21st Ce... - 2/13/2006 6:25:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TalkingNonesense

Having read the treads the article poster did not start the insults,Others did so. You should realise that and cease being one sided in your totally unfair critisism.


Actually, I thought sophia37, to whom this reply is linked, did a rather nice job of analyzing the OP's post without any insults I could descern. Are you sure you wanted to link your reply to her?

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