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peppermint -> RE: training camps (5/20/2009 11:29:45 PM)
You are 44 years old. Are you so desperate for a slave that you are considering paying strangers money that you will never see again? Why don't you go to a munch near you? Go to events. Meet real people who do this for real, not fantasy online. You live in a big city where there is a big lifestyle community. Why are you not using the resources that are there for you?

SteelofUtah -> RE: training camps (5/20/2009 11:33:52 PM)
Now Play nice peppermint not everyone can be perfect like us, Now can they? Steel

Lockit -> RE: training camps (5/20/2009 11:44:30 PM)
I say go for it.. do it... yes siry... then come back and tell us about your experience. I don't mind learning a lesson on someone else's thousand dollars. But honestly... after living in Corona/Norco/Riverside, way back when... back when there was a whole lotta horse shit in them there parts... it sounds like not much has changed. Obtain and train your own. Sounds a whole lot safer.

peppermint -> RE: training camps (5/21/2009 12:09:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah Now Play nice peppermint not everyone can be perfect like us, Now can they? Steel Heck Steel, we're not talking about perfection (although I admit I'm pretty durn close...grinz). I just get so angry when people leave their common sense behind because they have this idea that if people are into all this they are more honest or truthful than the average Joe or Jane on the internet. I figured out years ago that I could make a living online by being nice to lonely guys, if I were so inclined to make a living that way. Many are willing to pay for an hour or so of chatting or playing games each evening. There are lots of lonely people on the internet. However, I wouldn't have to scam the guys for a big one time payout.

OsideGirl -> RE: training camps (5/21/2009 6:57:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WyldHrt quote: Is the Group in Corona called the Monarch? AFAIK, that group is based in LA, not Corona. [;)] Yup, and the Society of Monarchs do not operate a camp, nor do they operate in the manner in which the OP stated.

NihilusZero -> RE: training camps (5/21/2009 9:18:14 AM)
This goes beyond even the (rhetorical) question of the 'legitimacy' of the "camp". If a potential slave that has decided she wants to be with me is requiring me to make financial (or other serious) concessions for her because of silly decisions she's made (like involving herself with such a band), then she's completely missing out on the whole point. I'm not the sort to get into a relationship where the implication (in this case, by my requirement to pay money) is that I'm the only one benefiting from the arrangement. If this slave was interested in me, I'd tell her to get herself a temp job long enough to pay off her own "fees" until she can actually follow through on the decision she's making without some financial chaperone...and then I might just be nice enough not to demand additional 'tribute' from her for even involving me in that ridiculous process in the first place.

Musicmystery -> RE: training camps (5/21/2009 1:38:29 PM)
quote: We have conversed for a couple of months, and she has supposedly decided that I'm her "choice" of a Master to serve for life. The organization that she has been "trained" by apparently "owns" her, until a suitable Master is found. They have sent me a "contract" which looks more like just a basic information form, and I'm to sign and return it, and then send them money for her training and for a medical test. After that, she will be relocated to me at their expense. The fee they are asking is $600 for the "training", and $200 for the test, for a total of $800. Let me say this gently. What about this does NOT say scam? Don't waste time and money checking anything--you've been had, and it's time to move along and be more discerning next time. If you must do something, and I get the impression you do, have her shipped COD. Yeah, I know, there's a reason they can't do that.... And yes, that WAS the gentle version.

LadyPact -> RE: training camps (5/21/2009 1:51:04 PM)
That's ok. I've got the non gentle version right here. http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2478213&key=BDSM%2Cstupidity

tied4urpleasure -> RE: training camps (5/21/2009 3:25:26 PM)
HardDaddy4u>> Go with Your instincts! Its a SCAM!.. You dont know who you been chatting with via email or IM. If you havent meant this Slave in person How do you know she is genuine? Red flags went up..walk away and leave it alone..

GotSteel -> RE: training camps (5/21/2009 5:58:50 PM)
Wow, someone was actually thinking about this seriously enough to start a thread on it instead of just reporting the profile and moving on. No wonder there are scammers on collarme.

SexyBlackMan2 -> RE: training camps (5/21/2009 8:13:34 PM)
Hmmm....sounds like a revised version of the "I'm located in the UK or Ghana and need money to get back home". Use you head. Or follow the newbie's advice and visit in person. I assure you if you send the money, you'll never here from your "submissive" again.

Fitznicely -> RE: training camps (5/22/2009 4:21:24 AM)
paraphrasing an email conversation I had a while back: She - "Help! I'm stuck in a camp, I don't like it and I need help!" Me - "OMG, call the cops! What can I do, I'm 3000 Miles away" She - "Oh it's ok, I like the place but send me money" Me - "Can I talk to your trainer?" She - "Send me money" Me - "OK, you realise you have to move continents and shit?" She - "Send me money, I'll be your perfect slavegirl" Me - "I'm broke" She - "........" Scam dude. Report, block, ignore, lick your wounds, grow up, move on.

daddysliloneds -> RE: training camps (5/22/2009 4:52:53 AM)
if you're so clueless that you actually buy into this shit, then you deserve to get burned [:@]

barelynangel -> RE: training camps (5/22/2009 4:55:56 AM)
You could ask her to be delivered COD. Then grab her and slam the door. see all nice and neat.

Aileen1968 -> RE: training camps (5/22/2009 5:08:28 AM)
Send me money. I need to buy stuff to make s'mores. That's what all slaves eat at slave sleep away camp, isn't it?

antipode -> RE: training camps (5/22/2009 9:44:13 AM)
quote: While I am totally comfortable with the slave herself, and feel that she is genuine You really have a lot to learn. This is a very common scam, run mostly by Nigerians (I actually had one of these "owners" email me, a while ago, and the email came from a Nigerian IP address. If you are truly comfortable with the slave, you (my apologies for saying this) you need your head examined.

Musicmystery -> RE: training camps (5/22/2009 9:51:45 AM)
Yup. There's a reason this kind of thinking is called "nuts..." [:D]

harddaddy4u -> RE: training camps (5/22/2009 11:47:28 AM)
I guess some of you more recent posters haven't paid attention to what I said. I already know this is a scam, and that's why I haven't sent any money. I started the thread to see if there was in fact a camp in Corona and if anyone knew anything about it. I also started the thread to see what people would say about the situation. Each of your answers have been helpful, although some of them seem rather unnecessarily insulting. I think it will be helpful for this thread to be available for anyone who wants to research "training camps" and see what everyone has to say about them. Think outside the box, people. As to my "comfort" with the "slave", I just meant that I enjoy chatting online. There is some value in chatting with people as you end up learning something in any case, about them, or about yourself. But no money will be forthcoming, and I already decided that before I posted the thread. Read my second post. Anyone who posted anything after that apparently wasn't paying attention. And no, I'm not desperate. I speak with submissives and slaves in Nashville and all over the country, and play with one or two locally.

kiwisub12 -> RE: training camps (5/22/2009 5:03:41 PM)
I still don't understand what a submissive could learn in a "training camp" that he/she couldn't learn at his/her masters side. To me "training camp" sounds like a euphimism for the "trainer" getting his jollys (be it sexual or sadistic) from submissives thinking they are learning something useful (or maybe the subs are getting their jollys as well). Of course, I think this way about "trainers" as well. [:D]

GYPZYQUEEN -> RE: training camps (5/22/2009 5:21:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kiwisub12 . quote: To me "training camp" sounds like a euphimism for the "trainer" getting his jollys (be it sexual or sadistic) from submissives thinking they are learning something useful (or maybe the subs are getting their jollys as well). Of course, I think this way about "trainers" as well. [:D] SOME of us are legit...!!!!!!! I have a small sub school here in AB CA.. I will not say the name unless someone wants to e mail me or what ever becuz I do not want to appear to be trying to get business..don't have to.. I offer 5 courses per season to newbies and novices.. These are designed to have SKILL SETS to offer to a Mistress/M with a ceritficate and a ref. from me as I am known..and respected( by some hahaah)..[:-] The courses are simple.. 1)manners...presenting self( written & more)..approaching a M...keeping a journal..self help...identifying strengths..dress..listening hows 2)bathing riutals..uses of essential oils..rose petal ritual.. 3) foot worship and care..painting nails..decoration...henna 4)Simple massage.hands,.feet,shoulders( I am a massage therapist) 5) delectable delights from the kitchen..unusual sexy foods.. As you can see...not sexual..but rather things that will make a potential Mi's life easier or have it enhanced..in service.. The subs leave with a good little "resume" and have a fair amount to offer to make life easier... Each course is paid for by them... We have a blast..I teach one at a time or groups.. and yes *..all this could be taught by a M* however the fact that they go out and are making an effort to learn for future says something of their character already. PLUS I( try to) show them how to listen and learn for a time when their trainings are added to by a M... [:D]GQ

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