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RE: answering questions - 5/23/2009 3:01:18 PM   
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i have noticed of late there are a few people that will answer a question(post on a thread) just to say the "can't really answer this but, ...."  then go on talking about how that (the thread they are replying to) doesn't really apply to them. So if you say i can't answer because this doesn't apply to you, and just go on to list ...i do this, or master does that.....  what is the real goal? To show what a wonderful "s" type you are? to show what a great "D" type you are? to show what a great relationship you have?....what?....i mean it was already stated "i can't really answer this but, ....."

Why must anyone have a 'real goal' other than the obvious. The blatant truth is that NOBODY's relationship is identical to mine. Therefor, anyone else's questions are not really relevant to me and my experience. Obviously, we try to bridge those gaps and offer what insights we can. Sometimes, when I feel the gap is particularly large and so my words are more than normally likely to be off-base somehow, I'll specifically call lit out.

I think you'll find that people really don't respond to questions that are truly totally wrong for them. For instance, you'll see I'm guessing zero posts from me ever on any SM thread. We don't do it. It's not in our world. I don't know a thing about it or care.


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RE: answering questions - 5/23/2009 3:15:34 PM   
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Many things are not always obvious to me, perhaps this is something i need to look at, being more "aware". i find a large varity of things interesting, how and why people do what they do is one of them. i've also researched how trees lose their leaves in the fall just because i wondered LOL (do you know a tree ACTUALLY "throws its leaves away." The leaves do not just "fall off." The tree literally discards them, after it dosent need them anymore for the season)
Anyway, So i was just curious to know if anyone had noticed this, and what their thoughts were.
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RE: answering questions - 5/23/2009 3:22:21 PM   
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I plead guilty.  My experience is sorely lacking, so I use the boards to post snarky and (hopefully) amusing comments to stall while I learn enough to be able to eventually provide some wit and wisdom to my associates here.  One thing I can assure you is that I am not responding to demonstrate my achievements as a sub, as I am still in search of a single achievement to brag on. 

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RE: answering questions - 5/23/2009 3:42:51 PM   
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LMAO.. That was exactly the opposite of my thought.  It didn't even cause of ripple of concern whether I had been guilty of that or not. 
Count me in the "it's not my problem if it bugs someone", camp.
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I almost went to review my posts to see if i am guilty of "can't really answer this but", because it is something i would do.:)

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RE: answering questions - 5/23/2009 9:31:00 PM   
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I usually respond to a thread if I feel I have something to add, and I may well be guilty of  doing exactly what the OP is talking about. Very often, however, I find myself not replying to a post because what I would have said was already covered by another poster. Then, sometimes I'm just overwhelmingly impressed with my own cleverness, and want to share.

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RE: answering questions - 5/23/2009 11:58:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL:Joseff,
sometimes I'm just overwhelmingly impressed with my own cleverness, and want to share.

This is actually why i post


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RE: answering questions - 5/24/2009 2:26:56 AM   
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One of my issues is the conundrum of 'over-controlling stuff versus allowing space for serendipity' . . . ...

I tend to be 'excessively controlling', & it limits my ability to learn & for unexpected 'good' stuff to enter into my life . . ... . I work to counter this by seeking out perspectives I don't agree with & answers I did not seek, amongst other tactics . .. . .

I also tend to see the above as being an issue of my being 'excessively goal-oriented', where I lose sight of bigger pictures in obsessing over some particular subset of concerns . .... . & for me the OP's question exists in this area, to some degree -- that questions asked 'require' linearly & logically obvious answers, & deviating from the point is 'bad form' . . . . . But my reality is great information may come from the most obscure & non-obvious of places, if my mind is receptive to the opportunity . . . . .

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ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW

If I respond to a question, and state that I can't answer the -exact- question given, it is often because I feel that there are aspects of the question that may not have been considered, and, while what I say may be considered irrelevant by some, I've found it to be an important consideration or will help with refining/defining a situation in terms that may help the process. Frankly, I don't give a tinker's damn whether someone here agrees with me, disagrees, or doesn't give two hoots. I don't care if they like me, hate me, or are completely indifferent to my existence. If I offer a response, it is because the question evoked a perspective that I wish to share. If someone doesn't want to hear it, they can skip my posts and more power to 'em. With brutal candor, I can say that I participate here to hear myself talk, and to have the illusion that something that I say might, in fact, be relevant, even if it isn't the -exact- framework of the question under discussion. If I were doing it for the external validation, it would be essentially worthless, since any external validation is rapidly countered with at least as many, if not more, instances of external invalidation.

Frankly, I find it interesting that people feel the need to dissect every aspect of someone else's participation on the boards. This is an exercise in mental masturbation for all of us -- a writing down and displaying of personal thoughts in a public medium. If we, collectively, weren't philosophical voyeurs and attention sluts, I hypothesize that none of us would be here posting... we'd all find something more productive to do with our time.

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RE: answering questions - 5/24/2009 5:55:50 AM   
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If it bothers you, go to the library, and read things that don't talk back.


Lovely advice! :)

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RE: answering questions - 5/24/2009 6:26:02 AM   
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People post because they feel they have something to offer on the topic at hand. Something compels them to write out an answer- it can be any of the reasons already speculated upon from personal gratification to selflessly extending some insight.

This is a public forum set up solely for the exercise of learning/discussing subjects with our peers with a few guidelines thrown in. You never can guess what you'll get...isn't that the point?

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RE: answering questions - 5/24/2009 7:21:51 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: YoursMistress

I plead guilty.  My experience is sorely lacking, so I use the boards to post snarky and (hopefully) amusing comments to stall while I learn enough to be able to eventually provide some wit and wisdom to my associates here.  One thing I can assure you is that I am not responding to demonstrate my achievements as a sub, as I am still in search of a single achievement to brag on. 

yours




Either that was snarky or the most honest thing ive read today...(that case is an easy one to win, i just opened my eyes about 10 minutes ago).......If it was honesty, kudos to you!...If snarky, kudos as well, one smart-ass to another.

On topic,

i suppose what i see more than shameless plugs of "perfect" relationships is the statement....ymmv....could we just once, for the sake of argument, all agree that everyones mileage may vary and just actually discuss a topic?

But thats just one slave's humble opinion....

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RE: answering questions - 5/24/2009 7:47:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL:persephonee,
for the sake of argument, all agree that everyones mileage may vary and just actually discuss a topic?

OMG ......... YES!  For real,  its BEYOND ridiculous how people will mince, and dissect words. How a sentence, if its not worded "just so" the poster is all but burned at the stake! Thankfully those argumentative people are in the minority.


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RE: answering questions - 5/24/2009 7:50:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: gypsygrl

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If it bothers you, go to the library, and read things that don't talk back.


Lovely advice! :)

Sigh! Geez guys COME ON....i already said it didnt bother me..... i was truly just wondering what would motivate people to chime in on certain things....i guess you just can't win....OR ask a question LOL

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RE: answering questions - 5/24/2009 8:15:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

i have noticed of late there are a few people that will answer a question(post on a thread) just to say the "can't really answer this but, ...."  then go on talking about how that (the thread they are replying to) doesn't really apply to them. So if you say i can't answer because this doesn't apply to you, and just go on to list ...i do this, or master does that.....  what is the real goal? To show what a wonderful "s" type you are? to show what a great "D" type you are? to show what a great relationship you have?....what?....i mean it was already stated "i can't really answer this but, ....."


Because experience doesn't mean someone doesn't have an opinion or view about whet ever question, and often a reply from someone outside the subject matter gives rise to other questions and thoughts which may be important.

Personally, I pick and choose which discussions I will buy into and often enough the ones I leave have no interest to me and thus may be pointless in replying. However when replying to something I have no personal experience I will usually state this at the start. Conversely I often also state that my comments are my own views based on experience too. There are often times when I reply to an individual post either to stir the pot with a good old fashion leg pull or because I find a post incorrect and desire to debate that point.


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RE: answering questions - 5/24/2009 8:51:45 AM   
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IronBear, i've a question if you don't mind... Do you think its helpful to say, whether or not you are voicing an opinion based on experience, when posting?

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RE: answering questions - 5/24/2009 9:12:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

IronBear, i've a question if you don't mind... Do you think its helpful to say, whether or not you are voicing an opinion based on experience, when posting?


I would prefer some form of qualification to accompany an answer. In my mind it can help in giving more weight if you are using that response as part of a decision making process. This is who on the rare occasion when responding to some questions I will state that my answer is based on my experience for example as a Psychologist/Therapist/Counsellor. Thus I am giving a professional answer and not just one based on personal experience as a layman (which also often has great value). Just my personal view.


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RE: answering questions - 5/24/2009 9:35:00 AM   
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IronBear, if i could further.... Lets say you found a post very helpful, would you ask the poster if what they wrote was based on their opinion only, or their experience AND opinion. Would this change anything in regards to how much credence you gave it?

If i'm getting on your nerves just say so, i'm like the kid that will kill you with questions LOL


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RE: answering questions - 5/24/2009 9:42:08 AM   
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No problems there my friend. To some degree, the credence I would place will be dependent on the poster and what I know of them as well as the information they posted. I would contact them privately, so as to avoid any embarrassment, and ask what their basis was for their opinion. better even if they can give me some reference points from, lets say a professional publication. Mind you this would be happen in very few cases or if I believed the poster had the wrong end of the rope and was just blathering to try to impress. Mostly, if I am in general agreement, I'll just take their comment as it is.. In short I have in the past found very helpful posts from people with zero experience who have based their post on common sence and good values. 

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RE: answering questions - 5/24/2009 10:05:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

Thankyou for the answers thus far.
LMAO .... This thread isn't about any one person, just asking in general. Tried to word it carefully enough that, that assumption wouldn't be made, sorry if i failed.


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Beautiful example for: Try to avoid something is happening and do your best, only to see it happen.

The original question breatasone is mostly to me a riddle also.

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RE: answering questions - 5/24/2009 10:12:52 AM   
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i was merely curious about something i had seen on the forums.  

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RE: answering questions - 5/24/2009 10:31:57 AM   
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I think i understand you quite well, and it happens on all forums, but i do not understand it.

I thought it has partly an innocent reason, something along the lines of, i will show that i notice your question and i would really like to help you, but i can not because i have no personal experience and i can not imagine the situation.

And then there are surely the attention whores, but are we not all as participants here ähm interested in attention, ok some are more than others.


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