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missturbation -> No commentary news (5/24/2009 8:42:02 AM)

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At euronews we believe in the intelligence of our viewers and we think that the mission of a news channel is to deliver facts without any opinion or bias, so that the viewers can make their own opinion on world events.

We also think that sometimes images need no explanation or commentary, which is why we created No Comment and now No Comment TV: to show the world from a different angle…


http://www.euronews.net/nocomment/2009/05/24/usa/

I'm not a big fan of watching the news or reading the papers, i rarely do it, but i like this idea.
Most of the british papers are biased in some way or another or i find them so. I can only assume the news stations are the same, i don't watch them enough to really have an opinion.
 
Good idea to have no commentary?




TheHeretic -> RE: No commentary news (5/24/2009 8:46:56 AM)

      And the basic worldview of the editors won't be expressed in what stories they choose to cover?  What images they choose to show?  How much time they devote to which issues?  Who they ask their unbiased questions of?

      I don't buy it.




missturbation -> RE: No commentary news (5/24/2009 8:59:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

     And the basic worldview of the editors won't be expressed in what stories they choose to cover?  What images they choose to show?  How much time they devote to which issues?  Who they ask their unbiased questions of?

     I don't buy it.


Hmm fair points [:D]
 
Could it perhaps be seen as a step in the right direction?




TheHeretic -> RE: No commentary news (5/24/2009 9:25:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

Could it perhaps be seen as a step in the right direction?



      It could be seen as being worth a shot.  It will depend a lot on the hiring practices, and whether the editorial board sees vicious debate, or just sits around and agrees with themselves.  I've never seen the numbers from Europe, but in US polls on issues, people in the news business fall well more towards the left than the rest of the population. 

      That's why I prefer getting my news off the internet.  I like a variety of perspectives, having some clue about where my sources are in the spectrum, and lots of conflicting commentary. 




LafayetteLady -> RE: No commentary news (5/24/2009 10:02:07 AM)

The problem is that if someone hadn't been watching or reading the news somewhere else, they wouldn't be aware of the situation.  I believe the woman getting off the plane was Lisa Ling's sister.  But I know that because I had heard about her situation on another news program or reading an article.  So if all you watch is "no commentary" how do you find out the details of any story?




Musicmystery -> RE: No commentary news (5/24/2009 10:37:18 AM)

~FR~

The simple choice of what to cover and which images to use reflects a necessary discrimination among the wealth of potential material, as well as need to attract and keep viewers, who also aren't unbiased.

It is, however, true that commentators have missed that they themselves are not the news. Investigative journalists have more cause, as they have an argument in favor of news, and some are recognized as better than their peers. Even then, however, a good journalist is going to report news others don't want to hear, and will be labeled "biased," true or not.

The unfortunate truth is that viewers don't want unbiased news...they just want it biased their way, which sources they will then proclaim true and unbiased, evidence be damned.

Hell, look at all the posters here who turn to blatantly, openly biased sources and to editorials and blogs, by definition opinion pieces, not reporting, to web pages and youtube to "support" their positions. They're seeking validation, not the truth.






Stephann -> RE: No commentary news (5/24/2009 1:01:16 PM)

I expect people intelligent enough to accurately report the facts of a story to have a natural opinion of that story.  A good reporter (regardless of bias) should be setting aside their personal opinions to a degree to relate a story, but I would much prefer the actual personal bias of a reporter or news agency to be clear and up front. 

Stephan




MrRodgers -> RE: No commentary news (5/24/2009 3:45:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

Could it perhaps be seen as a step in the right direction?


     It could be seen as being worth a shot.  It will depend a lot on the hiring practices, and whether the editorial board sees vicious debate, or just sits around and agrees with themselves.  I've never seen the numbers from Europe, but in US polls on issues, people in the news business fall well more towards the left than the rest of the population. 

     That's why I prefer getting my news off the internet.  I like a variety of perspectives, having some clue about where my sources are in the spectrum, and lots of conflicting commentary. 

The missing factor here though is that viewers themselves bring their own presumptions and with them exercise their own biases in who they choose to view and listen too. What may seem to be a very biased news report to some may seem to others to be very reasoned and objective.

I watch C-Span almost every morning I can. Still, the callers bring many obvious biases and rants to the Journal during that time slot. One woman even called and complained how C-Span had gone liberal when during the 2000 pres. campaign for having that liberal Steve Forbes on for an interview. Even Brian Lamb usually pretty stoic...had to laugh.




DesFIP -> RE: No commentary news (5/25/2009 5:12:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

     And the basic worldview of the editors won't be expressed in what stories they choose to cover?  What images they choose to show?  How much time they devote to which issues?  Who they ask their unbiased questions of?

     I don't buy it.


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