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Writing Assignment from a Struggling sub of Mine - 5/29/2009 11:58:56 AM   
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Next, below is the result of a writing assignment I gave to a struggling sub of mine a while ago. I reflect on it occasionally. Now, I am looking for your input and comments on what she wrote. Many thanks to all who participate. Both Dom and sub perspectives are greatly valued .....

"This is my best attempt at your essay request. I never know what you're looking for, but I will do my best!

MY SIR IS …
My Sir is loving, kind, somewhat patient, caring, devoted, trustworthy, honest, dedicated, hard-working, self-less, tender, positive, knowledgeable, somewhat secretive, demanding, and just a downright good person at his core. My Sir is the man whom I want to spend the rest of my life with, who cherishes me and adores me, even when I'm struggling and being difficult.

MY SIR IS NOT …
My Sir is not a man who is trying to hurt me or mislead me. He is not someone who says things and then sways from the things that he says. He is not always understanding of my mindsets and sometimes has trouble being compassionate when he thinks that I should be doing something that he feels is for my own good. Sometimes I try to explain to him the reasoning behind my feelings, but that is often times discarded and not placed value on. My Sir is not a man who deliberately does anything that would be hurtful to me, at least I think he doesn't.

WHAT I LIKE ABOUT MY SIR …
What I like about my Sir is that he is generally very caring and concerned about my well-being. He does the absolute best that he can to try to see to my needs, in spite of the issues that are currently ongoing in his own life. He has made promises to me, which he has kept thus far, and I can rely on him when I need direction and advice. He always goes over and above what he needs to do, always putting others' needs ahead of his own, which I find extremely admirable. My Sir loves me and demonstrates his commitment to me on a daily basis in some fashion. There are certainly many other things that I like about Sir as well, but there are just too many to list and I truly believe Sir knows what most all of them are.


THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE ABOUT MY SIR.
If it were possible to change any things about Sir, I think I would begin with the interruptions that he often does when I'm speaking. I know he does not like it when the same is done to him, so I would like the same courtesy for myself. I believe that because he has grown accustomed to having to jump in to be able to speak (Catherine), that now it is difficult to break that pattern. I would also like to change Sir's attitude about comparing me to things that his wife has done over the years. I am not Catherine and I do not share the same thought processes as her, nor do I even think like her. I wish Sir could get beyond the comparison and start trusting that I do not have any ill-will toward Sir either. I also would like Sir to be able to control his anger that he sometimes shows. I know we all get that way, but Sir seems to stay in the moment longer than he normally should. It also would be super if I felt trusted by Sir. I think Sir has been hurt himself in the past, so he always seems to be questioning my motives, my whereabouts, etc., and that makes me feel like Sir does not trust me and that he somehow believes that I lie to him, which is very hurtful to me. I would also change Sir's views on keeping the relationships ongoing with old lovers, which is very hurtful to me. Also, since Sir knows that I have jealousy issues from my past, I wish he would discontinue trying to make me jealous by telling me that he is going to seek out the presence of other women and that he will talk and flirt with others all in the name of trying to find someone for me. I do not like that and I never have. On that same note, the profiles that Sir has created solely for himself to try and attract women who are only looking for a single man are not appealing to me either. In fact, Sir has conversed with many of the women and there was no mention of me, only mention of him meeting them, which I can assume is only for Sir's benefit and not mine. The other thing that bothers me is when Sir corresponds with different subs online to talk about me and all the things I should be doing or the things that I'm doing wrong. According to Sir, some of these particular relationships have been ongoing for years and they certainly do nothing for me. I think if I were doing some of these same things to Sir, he would be very hurt and upset about them, so I wish he could look at things through my eyes and see how it makes me feel and how it affects my self-worth and my self-esteem. If you take me, somebody who doesn't have lots and lots of confidence and who is generally extremely shy, and then you throw these just-mentioned issues into the mix, it does not help advance my confidence, but instead makes me more timid by the minute.

WHAT I HAVE LEARNED IN THE PAST YEAR.
Over the past year, I have learned that things do not always go as smoothly as we would like. In fact, usually things are more of a struggle than they are easy and breezy. I have found out that even though the curve balls continue to be thrown at us from all angles, we still seem to hold on to each other, even when it seems like all hope is gone. I have found that Sir has not faltered in his promises to me regarding abandonment, and he is still remaining strong in spite of our life problems and issues. I have also felt like, perhaps, I am not understanding the D/s relationship the way that I should be, and have always struggled with that issue. I was extremely hurt and affected by the comment Sir made to me that sub-4 was a more advanced, better D/s partner than I, and it bothered me to the point that I did not want to be a part of it anymore. It has made me self-conscious of my role in this, as well as made me evaluate my own worth and Sir's desire for me. I think that if given the choice, I would not be the choice of the best D/s partner for Sir, as he has told me this already. That makes me very sad. I'm not sure if I will ever have it inside of myself to learn what Sir's other partners seem to have learned easily.

That's all for now,


Toy"


ADDENDUM: Leadership527, thank you very much for your well thought out response. So far, it has been the most instructive to me. To those of you who seem quick to condemn my posting of this "personal letter", let me clarify. Part of this sub's training is to learn from the unbiased perspectives of others who do not know her. Also, you should know that any important names have been changed. Also, I would ask you to avoid judging me, based on things the sub says. Instead, look at the way and the tone the sub uses to express herself. Look at the protocol as well. Velvet Cruelty, I thank you as well. I believe your most insightful comment has to do with the length of the section in which she enumerates things she would change about me. Verrrry telling.

The real question I am asking all those who read is this: "Does this sound like a sub who is committed and satisfied with her Dom?"

Finally, I also ask all who read this to avoid jumping to the assumption that this sub is unaware of this posting. Also, bear in mind that she and I have a rule. If she speaks an untruth, I WILL interrupt her and correct her accordingly. Those are the interruptions she speaks of.


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RE: Writing Assignment from a Struggling sub of Mine - 5/29/2009 12:07:10 PM   
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Umm why would you post something so personal here?

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RE: Writing Assignment from a Struggling sub of Mine - 5/29/2009 12:12:04 PM   
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quote:

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Umm why would you post something so personal here?


what she said

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RE: Writing Assignment from a Struggling sub of Mine - 5/29/2009 12:12:46 PM   
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i see a lot of pain, i see her wanting, needing and being very willing to be happy and healthy in this relationship. i see opportunities for growth on BOTH sides of the kneel if the parties involved step up to the plate. i see a very loud cry for help.

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RE: Writing Assignment from a Struggling sub of Mine - 5/29/2009 12:13:03 PM   
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I will not give you any feedback on her personal letter to you. Perhaps you are trying to humilate her, because I cannot fathom the reason to post this to strangers. Personally if Sir ever did that to me, i wouldnt be struggling anymore. All trust that had been built would had dissolved instantly, and i would be gone.

Dang my heart goes out to her.

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RE: Writing Assignment from a Struggling sub of Mine - 5/29/2009 12:16:30 PM   
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I see a very unhealthy relationship because of past wounds that are now wounding another.  Including this thread.  Dominance at its finest eh?

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RE: Writing Assignment from a Struggling sub of Mine - 5/29/2009 12:21:06 PM   
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How sad she sounds. How sad that you seem to be comparing this woman with your wife, that your sub is questioning her own worth because of things you have said to others.
Just sad.
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RE: Writing Assignment from a Struggling sub of Mine - 5/29/2009 12:22:07 PM   
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YOu can't get rid of the ice cream cone.. it goes away by itself as your post count increases. The information you got from your sub in that essay is priceless. Two gold stars for her. Of course, now that you've got the priceless information, the qeustion becomes, "What are you going to do about it?" Whether or not YOU get any gold stars remains to be seen.

Some of the things she wrote about are clearly opportunities for growth within yourself. Some of the things she wrote about she put on you, but more rightly belong in her court. Are you dom enough to sort them out and handle each one accordingly... working changes within yourself where you can and coping strategies where you cannot? And for the misplaced items, are you delicate enough to get them put back where they belong in a positive and growth-oriented way.

I think that's the test in front of you right now.

Interestingly, I don't have the hugely negative spin on this that others do. I do not see a desparate cry for help from an unhappy sub here. I see a woman who seems to be expressing a clear and well balanced set of pros and cons regarding her partner. I've asked Carol for the same on several occasions and, not surprisingly, it sometimes makes me cringe to read. Were I to post one of her responses here, I'm sure I'd get similar responses which, at least in our case, would be about 110% wrong.

I also dont' see the huge issue with posting this unless your girl would be mortified by it. But I kind of resolved myself long ago to the idea that if I'm going to be putting an intensive new focus on my relationship including asking for input from strangers, then I'm going to have to share a TON of things about my personal life that I never would've considered otherwise.

So without knowing anything more, I'm pretty unwilling to go down the "poor poor sub" route here.

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RE: Writing Assignment from a Struggling sub of Mine - 5/29/2009 12:23:16 PM   
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Just as an aftertthought.
If this were me I would be struggling no more.
I don't often feel this way about internet "people", but dontcha just wanna hug her?
xx

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RE: Writing Assignment from a Struggling sub of Mine - 5/29/2009 12:24:10 PM   
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You won't abandon her, but she's not your best pick for a D/S relationship?

You have active profiles listing you as single and you say this is to persue other women for her?

Being compared to your wife and other ongoing past lovers and not measuring up.

Having her behavior discussed with other submissives when she is not meeting your expectations.

I notice that the longest part of her letter is things she'd like to change about you.

You publish a very, very personal letter in a public format so that anyone you've been discussing her with will be able to tell it is her?

Wow. Speechless.

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RE: Writing Assignment from a Struggling sub of Mine - 5/29/2009 12:26:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bstardsbitch
but dontcha just wanna hug her?


Absolutely,

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RE: Writing Assignment from a Struggling sub of Mine - 5/29/2009 12:29:09 PM   
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How very lovely. I'm just curious... what were you hoping to gain by this? Personally, I think that if I were your submissive, that would be the very last essay you'd ever receive. Come to think of it, that's the last of much of anything you'd receive from me.   Here’s something you might want to think about. You might recognize it. It comes from your own profile. In fact, you might want to review it and consider what this really means instead of just mouthing the words. You said, “A very wise person once told me, "Contrary to popular axiom, respect is not something that needs to be earned. Respect is something that should be given automatically, unless there is just cause to take it away."   In my world, you’d have given me PLENTY of just cause to take that respect away.

I'm wondering... have you even begun to contemplate what she'd like to change about you? She might want to add the little issue of inappropriately sharing intimacies with a whole lot of people.
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RE: Writing Assignment from a Struggling sub of Mine - 5/29/2009 12:37:57 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bstardsbitch

Just as an aftertthought.
If this were me I would be struggling no more.
I don't often feel this way about internet "people", but dontcha just wanna hug her?
xx


Yes, my heart just crying for her. how sad

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RE: Writing Assignment from a Struggling sub of Mine - 5/29/2009 12:39:35 PM   
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Leadership527, thank you very much for your well thought out response. So far, it has been the most instructive to me. To those of you who seem quick to condemn my posting of this "personal letter", let me clarify. Part of this sub's training is to learn from the unbiased perspectives of others who do not know her. Also, you should know that any important names have been changed. Also, I would ask you to avoid judging me, based on things the sub says. Instead, look at the way and the tone the sub uses to express herself. Look at the protocol as well. Velvet Cruelty, I thank you as well. I believe your most insightful comment has to do with the length of the section in which she enumerates things she would change about me. Verrrry telling.

The real question I am asking all those who read is this: "Does this sound like a sub who is committed and satisfied with her Dom?"

Finally, I also ask all who read this to avoid jumping to the assumption that this sub is unaware of this posting.

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RE: Writing Assignment from a Struggling sub of Mine - 5/29/2009 12:45:19 PM   
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"Does this sound like a sub who is committed and satisfied with her Dom?"


No

But for me, after reading this, the real question really is: Does the dom in question look like he behaves like an utter asshole? And sorry to say, yeah, it looks that way.

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RE: Writing Assignment from a Struggling sub of Mine - 5/29/2009 12:45:36 PM   
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i agree with Velvet Cruelty's comments.  You spoke of a struggling sub, but it seems you are the struggling Dominant.

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RE: Writing Assignment from a Struggling sub of Mine - 5/29/2009 12:47:34 PM   
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Ok well my well thought out response is that this girl deserves a lot better than being made to feel less in comparison to your previous partners. I believe that asking for opinions on her feelings is cruel. I think that you should at the very least say that you are in a relationship in your profile. And I hope against hope that this girl finds someone who deserves her. To me she sounds like someone who is being worn down by your manipulation.

Also your relationship is your own, I know sweet FA about your 'protocol'

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RE: Writing Assignment from a Struggling sub of Mine - 5/29/2009 12:49:15 PM   
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I never thought she was unaware of this posting and hence why my heart hurts.
I can only discern for myself the type i would submit too, and if this is what makes her happy, so be it.

My heart still goes out to her though, and nothing you can say will change that

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RE: Writing Assignment from a Struggling sub of Mine - 5/29/2009 12:49:48 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL:SecretStormFLA,
The real question I am asking all those who read is this: "Does this sound like a sub who is committed and satisfied with her Dom?"


Committed, yes...... Satisifed?, are you seriously asking that?

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Finally, I also ask all who read this to avoid jumping to the assumption that this sub is unaware of this posting.


Good point, and i did not assume that.


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RE: Writing Assignment from a Struggling sub of Mine - 5/29/2009 12:51:55 PM   
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Well......I think you have a very sad sub who can write wonderfully.
I also think you have a Dom who doen't give two hoots about his "struggling sub".
Satisfied?.............are you kidding?, like I said earlier she sounds sad, if you can't see that, then shame on you.
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