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RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? - 6/3/2009 2:52:54 PM

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"I am more than all these colors and you will go in the corner till you learn it"
and then I forbade him to post in threads on collarme about color of Mistresses so he could deviously get the colors he wanted to post and then message them[:****]

OH snap! lol You said what I was just thinking. Color does not matter OP, what matters is the PERSON. Besides I recall getting a message from you a while back and told you that I was not interested. I guess my red hair blinded you to the fact that I am white as paper

or as white as this lil dancing dude. But if I go out into the sun for awhile I turn red like a lobster, does that count?

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RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? - 6/3/2009 2:55:05 PM

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never served a black mistress before so i got to say white

no race issues there when you stay within your own race ..at least thats what my momma used to tell me

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RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? - 6/3/2009 4:50:54 PM

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Have you been ordered to refer to yourself as an object? Because if not, it's really objectionable.

You get off on race play. The women you seek out get off on race play. There are white female dominants who get off on race play, and black male subs who get off on race play.

But the majority of dommes don't get off on race play. For most people it's the person, not the wrapper, that does it.

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RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? - 6/3/2009 5:22:16 PM

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never served a black mistress before so i got to say white no race issues there when you stay within your own race ..at least thats what my momma used to tell me mal

No, actually, I don't think that's correct either. And your momma was obviously a racist and hence I couldn't give a flying fuck what she had to say about anything.

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But the majority of dommes don't get off on race play. For most people it's the person, not the wrapper, that does it.

Totally. And even the dommes that do get off on race play are highly unlikely to be looking to be objectived in the way we see here. Most people aren't keen on being seen as some sort of cipher, as opposed to human beings. Understandably.

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RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? - 6/3/2009 5:32:46 PM

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If you're out there in the real world and meeting people and getting to know them then I don't really see how such issues can arise. You're probably too busy getting to know.. erm.. people.

I just don't see where all these stipulations come into it. If you're a submissive, then you submit, and bottom line you just need to find someone who you feel you can be with who has a tendency to dominate - it really is that simple.

The way I see it it cuts both ways. i have no interest whatsoever in being with or submitting to someone who doesn't accept me - the person - for who I really am, warts and all, and I would assume that it's just the same for anyone else.

Therefore why complicate things by objectifying other people? This is what I see in the OP, it's picking up on one particular characteristic, an external one (skin colour) and ascribing all sorts of different characteristics and labels to a dominant woman just because she's black.

I sincerely recommend to the OP to get out more and meet people and get to know them, because until you do you're not going to get anywhere in WIITWD.

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RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? - 6/3/2009 5:41:38 PM

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Well, I have a feeling you have limited yourself on those that will be interested in you on this site. I think quite a few Black Mistresses will not want to be with someone that wants them solely for their color. And you have now informed those of us White Mistresses that we are not "special" enough for you.

There is a big difference between finding a physical quality attractive and believing it infers some superiority over others that do not have it.

Good luck!

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RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? - 6/3/2009 5:59:16 PM

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ORIGINAL: Apocalypso

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never served a black mistress before so i got to say white no race issues there when you stay within your own race ..at least thats what my momma used to tell me mal

No, actually, I don't think that's correct either. And your momma was obviously a racist and hence I couldn't give a flying fuck what she had to say about anything.

You're being unfair to his mother. Mal's 50. And 50 years ago it was still illegal in parts of the U.S. for blacks and whites to date or marry. 50 years ago segragation was still common. 50 years ago, interracial couples were attacked, the men beaten if not lynched and the women raped.

I can remember the Sheriff of Miami Fl announcing that if Sammy Davis Jr flew into Florida he would be arrested despite his fame because he was then married to May Britt (sp), a white Scandinavian.

What is racist today was prudent 50 years ago.

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RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? - 6/3/2009 6:55:15 PM

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What is racist today - was racist 50 years ago. Just because it was more accepted doesn't make it not racist. The laws that made it illegal in parts of the South for blacks and whites to date/marry were racist. And it is thanks to those that decided not to be prudent that things are different today, but we still have a long way to go.

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RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? - 6/3/2009 8:19:31 PM

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On the other hand it would also like to say that it has experienced many Black Women who are not that professional in their lifestyle but this can not really put blame on Black Mistress’s as a whole, but simply the individuals.

It's not clear to me whether you are talking about black mistresses or black femdom pros. If you are talking about pros your question seems irrelevant.

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RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? - 6/3/2009 8:22:14 PM

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It's been my experience that black women are naturally more assertive than white women, so it's perhaps easier and more natural for them to be dominant. Other than that it comes down to what your particular kink is.

Having said that, once you are over their knees and getting spanked, it all feels the same.

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RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? - 6/3/2009 9:39:42 PM

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RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? - 6/3/2009 9:49:02 PM

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I don't see your reasoning for falling all over yourself to apologize for bringing up the subject of race. If your preference is Black Dommes, I don't see why you have to apologize for that. I don't understand why you would even want to apologize for simply stating that you have a preference, even though you backtracked enough to bring doubt as to whether Black Dommes are your preference or not. The need to act offended and insulted simply because you broached the subject is indicative of a diseased nation that hasn't addressed their own racism. Simply talking about race doesn't mean you are racist. The inability to discuss race, the inability to discuss differences based on color is what cripples and stagnates race relations today.

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RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? - 6/4/2009 2:40:10 AM

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ORIGINAL: LovingMistress45

What is racist today - was racist 50 years ago. Just because it was more accepted doesn't make it not racist. The laws that made it illegal in parts of the South for blacks and whites to date/marry were racist. And it is thanks to those that decided not to be prudent that things are different today, but we still have a long way to go.

This. We also used to burn witches at the stake and stick orphans in the workhouse. Thankfully, we've moved on as a society and no longer do so. That doesn't mean it was right when it was happening, nor does it absolve those responsible.

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RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? - 6/4/2009 2:58:56 AM

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ORIGINAL: AfroerotiK

I don't see your reasoning for falling all over yourself to apologize for bringing up the subject of race. If your preference is Black Dommes, I don't see why you have to apologize for that. I don't understand why you would even want to apologize for simply stating that you have a preference, even though you backtracked enough to bring doubt as to whether Black Dommes are your preference or not. The need to act offended and insulted simply because you broached the subject is indicative of a diseased nation that hasn't addressed their own racism. Simply talking about race doesn't mean you are racist. The inability to discuss race, the inability to discuss differences based on color is what cripples and stagnates race relations today.

I do not see the problem with discussing race either, indeed there have been many threads on race that do simply state that it is a preference. What makes the op racist is applying personality traits to people purely based on the colour of their skin, that is what is offensive. The poster probably knew it would cause offense also hence why he was tripping over himself but to be fair this isnt the first time that the op has come on and started controversial threads so you come to get used to it.

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RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? - 6/4/2009 3:07:26 AM

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What is racist today - was racist 50 years ago. Just because it was more accepted doesn't make it not racist. The laws that made it illegal in parts of the South for blacks and whites to date/marry were racist. And it is thanks to those that decided not to be prudent that things are different today, but we still have a long way to go.

This. We also used to burn witches at the stake and stick orphans in the workhouse. Thankfully, we've moved on as a society and no longer do so. That doesn't mean it was right when it was happening, nor does it absolve those responsible.

Attitudes change. In modern society it is not acceptable however if you are bought up with values that were seen to be based in science (Lombross's criminal types) then it is 'right' in that society.

You have used the witch example, at the time it was believed that these witches were spoiling the crops and making life hard, superstition ruled the day.

A great example actually is mental health treatment. It used to be seen as the body causing the issues so the body was treated, things like lobotomy's to 'fix' people of course now we wouldn't do it because we have greater understanding however then it was seen as right. That makes the notion of racism a complex one. If borne out of ignorance (due to lack of information) so therefore can we think them bad? Something that we do now may in fifty years be viewed as evil whilst being perfectly normal in its time, without the full information people make mistakes, would you want to be looked back on as an evil person for doing something now that you thought of as morally and ethically wrong.

The problem is when that racism continues in the face of knowledge. Continuing the ideas about race that people held fifty years ago is to my view wrong.

Of course I did not live in a time where racism was acceptable so I do not really know the reality of it, how wide spread it was and how normal it may have seemed to them.

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RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? - 6/4/2009 6:06:04 AM

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Thank you all for the taking the time to contribute to this post.

Once again it would like to apologise for all those who are being offended. it is not a racist by any means.

its purpose of this thread was not to cause out rage in people’s thought about what is better a Black/White Mistress (lifestyle Mistress), but it just wanted to gather peoples views on why it is the case that people have these preferences, both subs and Mistress.

Once again, it highly respects all Women, of all caste and race, who will always be Superior to it. it has had positive and negative experiences with both Black and White Mistress’s, but it is not here to state that one is better than the other.

However, it has increasingly notice on many profiles that there are many Black Mistress’s who require purely white subs, and vice-versa; what it was wondering what is behind that reasoning. Of course it may be some sort of preferences, but is there something else deeper that is present in this contrast of race?

it is of Asian race, and will feels it will never truly be able to understand why this is the case. it does like Black Mistress, but has been rejected many times because it is not white.

The post is just to gather some thought of this idea of why this happens. it takes on board all comment, both negative and positives.

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RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? - 6/4/2009 6:12:45 AM

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it is not a racist by any means.

Sweets are you in a relationship requiring you to call yourself it? If not it makes your posts really frustrating to read. However in relation to the above quote you may not consider yourself racist but your post contained racist sentiment.

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RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? - 6/4/2009 6:29:40 AM

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Forgive it, it is not in any relationship to which it has to refer to itself as it; but is in the world where it will always be at the heel of Woman, not as a man, boy or male, but merely ‘it’.

it understands the post has touched some racist themes, but it is merely discussing the notion behind it. This issue will always trigger offensive in people’s eyes, but it is not directly or indirectly pointing the finger at any race that may be Superior or inferior. it just wishes to gain an understanding as to why this is the case.

it hopes it has been sensible in conducting this post, perhaps there were better ways of going about this.

Everyone must have seen these issues on peoples profiles on this site, so why does it cause such an outrage to discuss it openly without holding out the race card?

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RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? - 6/4/2009 6:44:17 AM

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I am very particular about the qualities I seek in a woman.

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RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? - 6/4/2009 6:46:10 AM

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

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ORIGINAL: Apocalypso

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ORIGINAL: malloves69
never served a black mistress before so i got to say white no race issues there when you stay within your own race ..at least thats what my momma used to tell me mal

No, actually, I don't think that's correct either. And your momma was obviously a racist and hence I couldn't give a flying fuck what she had to say about anything.

You're being unfair to his mother. Mal's 50. And 50 years ago it was still illegal in parts of the U.S. for blacks and whites to date or marry. 50 years ago segragation was still common. 50 years ago, interracial couples were attacked, the men beaten if not lynched and the women raped.

I can remember the Sheriff of Miami Fl announcing that if Sammy Davis Jr flew into Florida he would be arrested despite his fame because he was then married to May Britt (sp), a white Scandinavian.

What is racist today was prudent 50 years ago.

I am 50, but my mother didn't feel that way. In fact she raised us to respect others regardless of skin color. While I agree that racism was much wider spread 50 years ago, it was still racism.

edited because I forgor to address the OP

I have played with white women and with black women and I didn't notice that the skin color made any difference at all. In fact when I am blindfolded I couldn't tell you what color they were. That said, most women want their sub to be attracted to them because of who they are, not what color they are.

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