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britishebony -> Gift, present, tribute??? (6/5/2009 10:18:42 AM)

Aren't the above three the same but different words?  Opinions/comments sought, due to the fact that there are subs out there that willingly, joyfully seek to disperse with the above, and feel they have to, but some state/consider it against the law!



colouredin -> RE: Gift, present, tribute??? (6/5/2009 10:24:01 AM)

Opinion = use the search facility

Different people have different goals/kinks/desires for Pro's sometimes they use the terminology sometimes not.

My opinion of it all is each to their own



subtlebutterfly -> RE: Gift, present, tribute??? (6/5/2009 11:57:41 AM)

Tribute = you pay it and expect something in return... e.g. so the person will want to talk to you
I think gift is a synonym for present...soo
Gift/Present = you give it without expecting anything in return...usually 'cause you care about the person or want to please them without expectations



LaTigresse -> RE: Gift, present, tribute??? (6/5/2009 1:00:05 PM)

Yeah, I love gifts.

But if I don't want to talk to/spend time with, someone, it's going to take A LOT of cash-ola to make me reconsider. Kabillions even.



PrincessDonna -> RE: Gift, present, tribute??? (6/5/2009 1:54:09 PM)

I put them under the same heading,someone wants me to know that I am worthy to control them!Tributes are not just for pros,also known as Tokens Of Worship.



aidan -> RE: Gift, present, tribute??? (6/5/2009 3:22:49 PM)

Ermmm...I can't make heads or tails of the OP, so I'll just give my stock answer:

I don't have the inclination nor the resources to give "tribute", but I will never be stingy when it comes to Mistress and doing nice things for her, because I love her.



LadyHibiscus -> RE: Gift, present, tribute??? (6/5/2009 3:30:21 PM)

People should bring me stuffs.  And monies.  Because they don't always bring the stuffs I like. 

Yep.

Pity that my upbringing ingrained me with that whole "inappropriate gift" notion... 



AlexandraLynch -> RE: Gift, present, tribute??? (6/5/2009 3:30:26 PM)

He just went the extra mile and cleaned out, washed up, and put back everything in better order than he found it. That's gift enough for me. I'll buy my own shoes.



PeonForHer -> RE: Gift, present, tribute??? (6/5/2009 5:39:04 PM)

I don't care, BE.  Gift, present or tribute - just send it to me.  I'll be grateful. [;)]



LaTigresse -> RE: Gift, present, tribute??? (6/6/2009 8:33:16 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: PrincessDonna

I put them under the same heading,someone wants me to know that I am worthy to control them!Tributes are not just for pros,also known as Tokens Of Worship.


In all seriousness..........I think MOST people just view this as a denial based, sugar coated, line of.......fill in the blanks.



Arpig -> RE: Gift, present, tribute??? (6/6/2009 10:26:49 AM)

It depends. If the gifts/presents are stated as a requirement, then they are in no way different than tribute. And tribute, well thats just a pretty name for a fee.



StoneFox -> RE: Gift, present, tribute??? (6/6/2009 2:06:10 PM)

I love to get presents :) But only from people I know and like, because they want to do something nice for me.

Or if they are giving gift to LOTS of people with no expectation of any return. Sort of like free samples at Costco? LOL

But I would be creeped out by strangers who wants to give me money or gifts in hopes of garnering favor. That's kind of a stalker thing to do. Or it implies they see me as akin to to a hooker. "I give you money/gifts, you gratify my submissive/kinky desires". And Arpig is right: a required tribute is just another name for a fee.



Usako -> RE: Gift, present, tribute??? (6/6/2009 5:06:00 PM)

Why am I not shocked that in being away from this site for half a year and yet the same questions still keep popping up.

Even if it's called a tribute, gift, present...whatever, if she's asking for it upfront then it's payment. I don't see how someone, personally, can ASK for a gift....that to me negates the meaning of the word.



LookieNoNookie -> RE: Gift, present, tribute??? (6/6/2009 6:35:03 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: britishebony

Aren't the above three the same but different words?  Opinions/comments sought, due to the fact that there are subs out there that willingly, joyfully seek to disperse with the above, and feel they have to, but some state/consider it against the law!


(Huh?)



flowerchicknz -> RE: Gift, present, tribute??? (6/6/2009 10:48:03 PM)

Honey if I charged, you couldn't come close to affording it [:D]

But seriously I'll never do any X for Y trading and call it BDSM. Not just for legal reasons, but because play time is my psychic energy exchange.

When the connection is there, I do things I don't like, because you'll like it, I like you and I'll get off on you getting off.

There's an intimacy, a rhythm, a shared energy. The waves of energy flow through everyone like the sound does at a concert. It takes everyone present to float the one, and you can feel them rise, before you see their body start to sink. There is a profane sacredness in the moment. Even fleeting, the connection is everything. What's said in the moment can't be taken down and used against you, because you aren't you. You can promise anything and everything, confess any sin real or imaginary, and I'll laugh at you. But break the connection by offering me money for a McExperience like I'm a whore on the clock and I'll cry, then I'll make you cry more.

You can't buy respect.



PrincessDonna -> RE: Gift, present, tribute??? (6/6/2009 11:27:36 PM)

I didnt recall there being anything said about the D ASKING for a "tribute" in the orginal posting but me myself Yes I still get flattered when on our face to face first meeting that the person brings me flowers,candy,gift card,whatever, so it can be "sugarcoated" all it wants I still enjoy being considered special,and do not think of it as anything else.But then again I'm not trying to analyze everyones actions and make them wrong or right because they may not agree with me! I'm just livin MY life.



PrincessDonna -> RE: Gift, present, tribute??? (6/6/2009 11:46:29 PM)

Sorry flowerchicknz this was not a reply to you but general again sorry



flowerchicknz -> RE: Gift, present, tribute??? (6/7/2009 1:54:37 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: PrincessDonna

Sorry flowerchicknz this was not a reply to you but general again sorry


NP I'm never complaining about token gifts.
I love getting flowers or hand made muffins, and work's a constant source of mass produced, cynically PR driven freebies from day spa's to bubbly. But nothing in life is free, so the smaller the gift, the more of you in it, the more likely you are going to make me happy.
[sm=hippie.gif]



MsVengeange -> RE: Gift, present, tribute??? (6/8/2009 12:58:26 PM)

I agree, why should any Mistress/Domme not be given a gift/tribute from a slave? Whether or not they are 24/7 TPE or paying to serve, by the time the day is over the slave goes home or to bed happy that they have pleased their Mistress/Domme.

I have had a few slaves come to me thinking "tribute" meant "prostitute". I don't allow a slave paying "tribute" to touch me sexually. That pleasure is for only my 24/7 TPE live in slaves, and only if they have pleased ME will they be given my "special affection".




subtlebutterfly -> RE: Gift, present, tribute??? (6/8/2009 1:09:45 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MsVengeange

I agree, why should any Mistress/Domme not be given a gift/tribute from a slave? Whether or not they are 24/7 TPE or paying to serve, by the time the day is over the slave goes home or to bed happy that they have pleased their Mistress/Domme.

I have had a few slaves come to me thinking "tribute" meant "prostitute". I don't allow a slave paying "tribute" to touch me sexually. That pleasure is for only my 24/7 TPE live in slaves, and only if they have pleased ME will they be given my "special affection".




Maybe it's just me but I always thought dominants didn't own the slaves in question upon their first message.



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