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RE: D-Day - 6/7/2009 4:32:03 PM   
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Incidentally - the statistics suggest that Normandy was the bloodiest part of WW2. More soldiers died per day than those on the Eastern Front.


But there was a lot less days.


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RE: D-Day - 6/7/2009 6:19:06 PM   
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To those that served then, those that have served since, and those that are serving now; know that your sacrifices are not taken for granted, know that we honor and respect that which you have secured, know that many of us have learned the lessons that the greatest generation had to teach. On this day, we who walk in your shadows salute you, the men and women, who made today possible.

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Thadious, very eloquent Sir!
They are in my thoughts and prayers ***always***.

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RE: D-Day - 6/7/2009 6:28:07 PM   
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To those that served then, those that have served since, and those that are serving now; know that your sacrifices are not taken for granted, know that we honor and respect that which you have secured, know that many of us have learned the lessons that the greatest generation had to teach. On this day, we who walk in your shadows salute you, the men and women, who made today possible.

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Thadious, very eloquent Sir!
They are in my thoughts and prayers ***always***.


Not to take away from D Day, but I hope you both know how much some of us appreciate these posts.  Thank you.


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RE: D-Day - 6/7/2009 7:06:32 PM   
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This month has officially been declared gay pride month in the United States, and around the country and world, the festivals and celebrations are in full swing of our diverse population.

Today however, in the midst of the celebrations around the country, let us keep foremost in our minds, that it is the 65th anniversary of D-Day, the landing on the beaches of Normandy and the horrible battles fought there.

Because of the brave people from countries all around the world, my grandfather, probably your grandfather, father and uncle on this day, we're able to have the freedoms and abilities to celebrate these and other things on this and every other day.

To those that served, we thank and honour you from the bottom of our hearts for making this possible.

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RE: D-Day - 6/7/2009 7:56:51 PM   
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RE: D-Day - 6/7/2009 8:03:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		A couple of points-

Reagan's speech totally neglects the role of the British/Canadian and US airmen who had been dying by the thousands over Europe for over 4 years.  When Eisenhower briefed the troops going in to the landings- his comment was that if you look up and see an airplane- it's one of ours.  He was right.

He also leaves out the bravery of the merchant seamen who ran the supplies and the men to Europe during the darkest days of the battle of the Atlantic. For example, PQ17- a convoy to supply the Russians, lost 17 out of 24 ships.  Without the merchant marine- there would have been no invasion.

And the Allies included the Russians- who several of you had noted had been dying in droves for years.  It's quite probable that in some of the sieges of cities like Stalingrad or Leningrad, more than 10,000 died in a day.  There were millions who died in less than a year.

But yeah- it took a lot of guts to be in one of those tin cans heading towards one of those beaches.  The Army suffered proportionately less casualties than the Marines because the Marines were tough and stood up to get shot- the Army taught the troops to dig and stay low.

Sam (who nonetheless respects the Marines for their bravery-but certainly questions some of their leadership.)

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RE: D-Day - 6/7/2009 9:39:09 PM   
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Anyone know if there is a listing of all of the soldiers? My uncle supposedly was there, but no confirmation on that.

I don't think there is any single collection of names. 160k troops landed just on June 6. If you know what division, better yet which regiment, you can check that out pretty easily. If your uncle has passed away you can request some of his military records from the DoD which may show enough details to let you know when he landed in europe and where he likely fought.

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RE: D-Day - 6/7/2009 11:05:15 PM   
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I would also suggest contacting the nearest American Legion Post.
http://www.legion.org/homepage.php

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RE: D-Day - 6/8/2009 2:17:40 AM   
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A couple of points-

Reagan's speech totally neglects the role of the British/Canadian and US airmen who had been dying by the thousands over Europe for over 4 years.  When Eisenhower briefed the troops going in to the landings- his comment was that if you look up and see an airplane- it's one of ours.  He was right.



He's a Hollywood man and Hollywood seems intent on editing out the Commonwealth contribution. Two thirds of the divisions that took part in D-Day were British and Canadian with many other nationalities involved. It was 90% a British organised and planned and reached its target (the Seine) 9 days ahead of schedule. The crossing was almost 100% Royal Navy and 50% of the planes were RAF. It wouldn't have happened without America and we should thank them for it but Hollywood, please don't edit out the British, Canadians and the rest. There is one mention in Saving Private Ryan of other nations, which was something like 'Montgomery is overrated.' That is a subjective virew but his plan was 100% successful.

But thanks to all the troops, whatever their nationality.

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RE: D-Day - 6/8/2009 2:21:19 AM   
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Incidentally - the statistics suggest that Normandy was the bloodiest part of WW2. More soldiers died per day than those on the Eastern Front.


But there was a lot less days.


Welcome back Meatcleaver.




Thanks PS. An appropiate thread. I am now 100% settled in Berlin.

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RE: D-Day - 6/10/2009 6:40:23 PM   
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this source http://www.ddaymuseum.co.uk/faq.htm

doesn't quite agree with your relative contributions.  The US navy did contribute about a third of the naval personnel, and the US troops took the heaviest casualties.  In terms of the invasion force, of the 156,000 troops of all nationalities, some 73,000 were US.


Sam

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