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Catherine Millet - 6/12/2009 4:12:00 AM

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i have just read Catherine Millet: the sexual life of Catherine M. (i don't know if i have translated the title correct as i have read the Dutch translation of the original French book)
i would just like to say that i am absolutely blown away by the franknes and clarity she has about her own sexuality...how much she owns her body and mind while giving herself so freely...she is no slave other than to her own desires and aren't we all...even if we are not all brave enough to live it...
i am totally in awe of the woman and her book...
just wanted to share...

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RE: Catherine Millet - 6/12/2009 4:38:47 AM

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I have the book, but have put off reading it. I'll give it a go, now

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RE: Catherine Millet - 6/12/2009 4:52:10 AM

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i hope you'll enjoy it too, from a Dom male perspective...
i am sub fem, would it make a difference? ... it took me about 12 hours to read

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RE: Catherine Millet - 6/14/2009 10:19:00 AM

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And exactly who is this woman that we "should" be so interested in her non-discriminating sex life?? Why are there so many narcissitic individuals writing books about their personal, very personal lives, as if it actually was relevant?

Sorry, but that is how I feel. I have not read the book, Ill be honest about that, but I did read the reviews and so what? just a lot of indiscriminate fucking is what it sounds like. Lets just hope she used condoms.

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RE: Catherine Millet - 6/15/2009 3:43:43 AM

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The woman is an art critic who decided to write her story...i don't know that you should be interested in her at all as you do not necessarily have to be interested in anybody do you?
She is indeed somewhat narcissistic as in selfobsessed enough to think and write about her own things...and this is assuming that her story is actually real...but I do not think she is any more selfobsessed than anybody else really.
Her sexual exploits with men started in 1966 in a capital city...she was lucky to have started her journey there and at a time people were quite loose and so i think she did not often use condoms... i rather envy her in that; how much difference 2 decades make...i think she is very lucky not to have become seriously ill but what freedom.
I understand it is not everyones cup of tea though...i loved it.

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RE: Catherine Millet - 6/15/2009 4:42:47 AM

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I am not criticizing anyone's reading material, and I hope this is not "thread stealing" but I do observe that we have become very narcisssitic as a culture; it has become fashionable for every Joe or jane to write a "catharsis"; I had this reaction as well to Mrs. Edwards' book, despite the pain of her circumstances. Few would have been interested in her autobio, were it not for her airing John's dirty laudry. Now another little known woman has decided that her sexual exploits are of interest to the general population when to many of us, it might just be a self absorbed missive on trashy behavior. Somewhere, for me, being sexually free and unfettered, crosses a line. Especially since I know that many women, especially, who are this way were sexually abused as children and we call this "sexual compulsiveness".

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RE: Catherine Millet - 6/15/2009 5:02:03 AM

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Well, i have not read Mrs. Edward and i do not know about John's dirty laundry, i have no clue who they are or what their story is about...i might well like it, then again maybe not.
I think there are many people with stories to tell and i very much enjoyed Catherine M's story and the way she told it. She has as far as i know no history of sexual abuse at all.
I have not read any of her critics, i picked the book up on the airport, i liked the blurp.

i do not feel critisised nor am i bothered about thread stealing at all...

I have stood in a bookstore not so long back and was totally amazed at all the books about child abuse and wondered why a good bookstore would devote an entire rack to this and who reads all these and why...and yes that afternoon i was very bothered about things...

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RE: Catherine Millet - 6/15/2009 7:56:56 AM

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Just as a general thing, I'll put in a good word about people writing their memoirs.

Even if they aren't famous or accomplished!

For instance, my grandparents died before I was born. There's not a scrap of anything they'd ever written anywhere that I've been able to find.

But, aside from family curiosities, I enjoy reading memoirs of people who were living in my area in the early days.

Sometimes, it's true, they are godawful dull.

But you often find a gem here or there.

And, of course, famous and accomplished people can and do write dull books as well.

Now; if grandma had written a book about her sexual exploits...then we'd have something!

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RE: Catherine Millet - 6/15/2009 5:15:18 PM

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Because a lot of people were abused as children, that is why.

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RE: Catherine Millet - 6/16/2009 12:18:20 AM

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maybe, but i think it has more to do with making money really; there obviously is a market for these books...
Would someone who was abused want to live through even more of that through anothers dreadful experiences? book after book?
I have read one of these books...it was about Dave Petzer? I think, by the title 'a child called it' ...i thought it was absolutely grim...i am not interested in any other child abuse book ever...
I am indeed far more interested in the story of Jeptha's grandma

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RE: Catherine Millet - 6/16/2009 4:56:10 AM

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Ranja, I too may be more interested in the story of Jeptha's grandma. But, as a mental health professional, I would say that a lot of those books are for those of us who treat childhood abuse, so that we can better understand what abused individuals have experienced.

Anyhow - I read fiction in my spare time.

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RE: Catherine Millet - 6/16/2009 6:07:02 AM

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The reviews of the English translation are overwhelmingly negative. Perhaps it is better in French or it simply speaks to a Frenchwoman better than it does to an American? Different cultures hold different values.

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RE: Catherine Millet - 6/16/2009 7:54:41 AM

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Thanks Des...it seems strange to me that reviews would be bad because of a bad translation, of course that is possible, but it rather seems to me that the person who wrote the review did not like the story, this is why i do not pay much attention to reviews or critics...i might not agree at all with their opinion and rather make up my own mind...the book has been translated in very many languages...and i can see why...it really is a special book...so eventhough it gets bad reviews it seems to get sold easy enough...maybe because of the bad critics?

It would be nice to get any feed back of anybody who has actually read it...but alas

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RE: Catherine Millet - 6/17/2009 10:29:57 AM

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I think anyone who takes the time to write is fine by me. Whether I like it or not is another thing. I find our culture where we ought not say things that are too personal so oppressive, controlling among other things. Let people say what the hell they want.

If someone, and I have done this, reveals too much it can feel pretty intense and there may or may not be consequences but I am so tired of this polite society it makes me want to barf.

Personally I am not a fan of casual sex, that is me, I find it repugnant, that is me, so I likely wouldnt want to read about her freedom but obviously some dig that sort of thing so whatever but I love the idea of just anybody writing down what the hell they want. Sometimes all these glorified writers and professionals want to make me hurl, honestly.

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