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LadyEllen -> RE: North vs. South (6/14/2009 1:01:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JonnieBoy quote: ORIGINAL: LadyEllen As far as the Welsh are concerned, we're Midlanders I live in Wales ... that's not the popular term here ! Pirate what, are you looking for sympathy? seriously though, the idea of Midlander is even variable; we use similar terms here in the west to descrbe the Black Country and Brummie contingent that swamp us every weekend through the summer, as I'm sure you use to describe "us" E

Apocalypso -> RE: North vs. South (6/14/2009 1:06:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyEllen seriously though, the idea of Midlander is even variable; we use similar terms here in the west to descrbe the Black Country and Brummie contingent that swamp us every weekend through the summer, as I'm sure you use to describe "us" Heh. And my Geordie friends claim that everyone south of Middlesborough is a "southerner". In terms of the original question, as a Brummie I'm obviously a Midlander. I identify more with being a "Northerner" but a lot of that has to do with the fact I lived in Newcastle for six years and consider it very much my second home city. If I was going to relocate I'd move to the North, not the South.

brandi1379 -> RE: North vs. South (6/14/2009 1:29:08 PM)
Im def a Southerner, my dad was in the military so we moved around alot but being from Texas i always thought of my self as Southern. Ive lived all over the U.S. and seen the differences between the southern folks and the northern folks. Not trying to talk shit about the north but the south seems more friendly to me. We say "yes ma'am and no ma'am, yes sir and no sir" we dont mind talking to strangers, we dont take things so sirously. But thats just how I see things. No hard feelings yall.

pahunkboy -> RE: North vs. South (6/14/2009 1:39:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: brandi1379 Im def a Southerner, my dad was in the military so we moved around alot but being from Texas i always thought of my self as Southern. Ive lived all over the U.S. and seen the differences between the southern folks and the northern folks. Not trying to talk shit about the north but the south seems more friendly to me. We say "yes ma'am and no ma'am, yes sir and no sir" we dont mind talking to strangers, we dont take things so sirously. But thats just how I see things. No hard feelings yall. I adore the southern accent and decorum. In a way I am glad I am in the north tho. I can just picture some sweet talking guy moving in with me and a bad ending...., just because I like the accent!!! I wish my brother would go to TN instead of FL. I was protective of my one friend- she went to Fayetteville. But that sounded too wild for me. She said 911 doesnt bother to come and one has to sit on the porch with a rifle. In all fairness she runs her mouth - so I dont know what to think of Fayetteville. It did sound like alot of drusg there tho.

NorthernGent -> RE: North vs. South (6/14/2009 1:46:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stella41b Do you identify as a Northerner or someone from the North or a Southerner or someone from the South? Or do you identify as being from somewhere other than North or South? What makes it so? And how does your culture differ from that in other regions? How do you perceive those from the North and/or those from the South? I'm very tribal about this and I'm a dyed in the wool Northerner. Every time I went to London I felt I was in a different country and the people were just so different. It's a different situation to the US because while they have their differences they are united by a common destiny - we have no such thing as the American Dream and are in effect a nation of city states. What makes me a Northerner? We have substance the South has style.....they have money we have the bollocks.

pahunkboy -> RE: North vs. South (6/14/2009 2:11:51 PM)
I have to admit - that I know nothing about the UK. I love learning!~ I am others are reading all the replies here- I heard the UK was tiffed over the Chunnel, has that blown over? I am not familiar, with the English- the pomp and duty to the clock can be intimating. I have a dear friend in Ireland- I recall a cogent reply from Lady E., on the ins and outs of all that. As to America being a common destiny. That was frayed in 2000 and in 2004, the elections. But the main reason is this collapse we are heading into. 2 weeks before the election we voted on a massive bail out. And then picked Obama. A sad hoax. I was in mourning for many months over this. It isn't about Obama- it is about the collapse of the monetary system that we let happen. You can see the full effects of this yet- but everything as we know it will change. I am embarrassed that we were/are too stupid to do this to the world and to ourselfs. In a small way- I apoligize that I cant stop it- I cant make it better. I am truly sorry. (for my proportion of the blame) that the mess we now are going into. I hope that things work out for the better- for people everywhere. The ignorance is incredulous- but there are more and more of us that know what is really going on. We stand to pick up the peices and try to put things back together.... but god help us. God help us! God help us!

oceanwinds -> RE: North vs. South (6/14/2009 2:33:10 PM)
Hi Stella I live in southern Florida, and a lot of us don't feel we are a part of the states any more. It is a mix pot of many types of people and cultures. I do enjoy it though. I lived in Ohio for the majority of my life, and there is a major difference from Ohio and Florida. Since moving to Florida almost 5 years ago, I also consider myself a mix pot of people with nationalities. oceanwinds

LadyEllen -> RE: North vs. South (6/14/2009 2:34:26 PM)
tiffed over the Chunnel? one would surely have to rail against it? except its a most amazing thing, even if the southeast didnt fall down the hole as we'd been hoping up here. In the end even that was a good thing though, as someone pointed out, without the southeast being there, we'd be the southeast. E

pahunkboy -> RE: North vs. South (6/14/2009 3:04:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyEllen tiffed over the Chunnel? one would surely have to rail against it? except its a most amazing thing, even if the southeast didnt fall down the hole as we'd been hoping up here. In the end even that was a good thing though, as someone pointed out, without the southeast being there, we'd be the southeast. E Interesting. Like all of a sudden we no longer heard of that. Something that Britain (sp?) was an Island. Part of Europe but not really part of Europe. I sure stuck my foot in my mouth in early conversation with the buddy from Ireland. :-) But it was my ignorance. Not intentional. We had quite the long distance phone bills there for a while. I hadnt heard from him in a while. I dropped my cell phone. SO I cant text. only email. And phone calls are outragious. I almost don't want to ask. But is there any reason why the French and the English seem at odds? The two seem to be on tension alot of the time. We went thru a period here where there was hard feelings???, tiffs. So I gather it is jsut an age old thing- that simply is? Do the French do anything right. ducks Lady E., is whom I address this too- when you feel like rendering a reply. Or maybe not. Too intense? On this side of the pond- we have no clue on many idisyncracies. and the media is of no help reducing any item down to a sound bite. turns red- hoping I did not ask the wrong question

Irishknight -> RE: North vs. South (6/14/2009 4:30:57 PM)
I am definately a southerner. I was born in Arkansas, raised for most of my life in Arkansas, swore I never wanted to come back here and now I don't ever want to leave again. I live among the friendliest people (imo) in the world and I wouldn't want to leave this community for anything.

lazarus1983 -> RE: North vs. South (6/14/2009 4:30:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: brandi1379 Im def a Southerner, my dad was in the military so we moved around alot but being from Texas i always thought of my self as Southern. Ive lived all over the U.S. and seen the differences between the southern folks and the northern folks. Not trying to talk shit about the north but the south seems more friendly to me. We say "yes ma'am and no ma'am, yes sir and no sir" we dont mind talking to strangers, we dont take things so sirously. But thats just how I see things. No hard feelings yall. I'm a northerner and I completely agree that the South is, on average, friendlier. I've spent a lot of time in Georgia and North Carolina, and traveling through the South when I was in the carnival. In 2003 I moved back to Michigan and haven't been back down South since, and I miss that Southern Hospitality. I always bristle when people make jokes about the South and its people. For some odd reason it's perfectly okay to stereotype them and mock them.

barelynangel -> RE: North vs. South (6/14/2009 4:35:55 PM)
When i first came down here the first day in fact, i was walking downtown Nashville during my lunch, talking on my cell with my friend in Chicago. She kept hearing people say hello. And she was like who keeps talking to you, did you meet that many? I was like noo, all these people keep saying hello to me. What do i do? She stopped for a moment and said i don't know let me ask our other friend. So we three conferenced and came up with i would just nod and say hi back. I was like you've got to be kidding me! I didn't want to do it lol. Finally i did and both of them together go -- WHAT HAPPENED? I laughed and said wow they just kept on going. I know people would think this story is strange, but when you grow up in a city where you are taught pretty much NOT to be friendly to strangers, people saying hello on the street is kind of nerve racking lol this was a very big adjustment for this city girl lol. angel

breatheasone -> RE: North vs. South (6/14/2009 4:43:45 PM)
When i went home to Michigan to visit not long ago, i was in a grocery store. The cashier was a rude little bitch(the way she had treated the two customers in front of me) When it was my turn and she was done i said to her..."Its people like you that make me glad i have lived in Virginia for the last 25 years." (the lady behind me laughed in agreement LOL) Then i followed with..."Y'all have a nice day now, Ya hear."[:D]

Aileen1968 -> RE: North vs. South (6/14/2009 4:46:28 PM)
I'm a Jersey girl. That says it all. But I never had big hair.

Apocalypso -> RE: North vs. South (6/14/2009 4:52:16 PM)
Apparently global warming may mean that London goes underwater. But there's obviously some downsides as well. [:D]

LadyEllen -> RE: North vs. South (6/14/2009 4:52:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy Interesting. Like all of a sudden we no longer heard of that. Something that Britain (sp?) was an Island. Part of Europe but not really part of Europe. I sure stuck my foot in my mouth in early conversation with the buddy from Ireland. :-) But it was my ignorance. Not intentional. We had quite the long distance phone bills there for a while. I hadnt heard from him in a while. I dropped my cell phone. SO I cant text. only email. And phone calls are outragious. I almost don't want to ask. But is there any reason why the French and the English seem at odds? The two seem to be on tension alot of the time. We went thru a period here where there was hard feelings???, tiffs. So I gather it is jsut an age old thing- that simply is? Do the French do anything right. ducks Lady E., is whom I address this too- when you feel like rendering a reply. Or maybe not. Too intense? On this side of the pond- we have no clue on many idisyncracies. and the media is of no help reducing any item down to a sound bite. turns red- hoping I did not ask the wrong question well, you do know where we insisted the rail connection through the tunnel from Paris should arrive dont you? Waterloo station! we and the French have been at it for centuries, right up to the detente in the early 20th century when we allied against the Germans; even then, after WWI, some British troops said they'd go back over, just to fight the damned French. although in reality, the whole thing goes back to 1066 in more than one way; those Normans are the cause of so many problems - it was them (the landowning aristos of England post 1066) who caused all the problems with the Welsh, the Cornish, the Scots and the Irish, dragging us along as their footsoldiers - just like they did in their wars in France (Agincourt, Crecy and all that) where they were trying to retain their ancestral lands against the French. so as usual, its the poor what gets the blame. the descendants of those Norman invaders of 1066 by the way still own 1/5 of England - with much of the rest owned by the Church of England and the Queen (a German). all in all though, its something of a toss up as to whether we dislike the French or the Germans more these days - but its more of a rivalry (not friendly) than ouright antipathy these days E

pahunkboy -> RE: North vs. South (6/14/2009 5:18:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyEllen quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy Interesting. Like all of a sudden we no longer heard of that. Something that Britain (sp?) was an Island. Part of Europe but not really part of Europe. I sure stuck my foot in my mouth in early conversation with the buddy from Ireland. :-) But it was my ignorance. Not intentional. We had quite the long distance phone bills there for a while. I hadnt heard from him in a while. I dropped my cell phone. SO I cant text. only email. And phone calls are outragious. I almost don't want to ask. But is there any reason why the French and the English seem at odds? The two seem to be on tension alot of the time. We went thru a period here where there was hard feelings???, tiffs. So I gather it is jsut an age old thing- that simply is? Do the French do anything right. ducks Lady E., is whom I address this too- when you feel like rendering a reply. Or maybe not. Too intense? On this side of the pond- we have no clue on many idisyncracies. and the media is of no help reducing any item down to a sound bite. turns red- hoping I did not ask the wrong question well, you do know where we insisted the rail connection through the tunnel from Paris should arrive dont you? Waterloo station! we and the French have been at it for centuries, right up to the detente in the early 20th century when we allied against the Germans; even then, after WWI, some British troops said they'd go back over, just to fight the damned French. although in reality, the whole thing goes back to 1066 in more than one way; those Normans are the cause of so many problems - it was them (the landowning aristos of England post 1066) who caused all the problems with the Welsh, the Cornish, the Scots and the Irish, dragging us along as their footsoldiers - just like they did in their wars in France (Agincourt, Crecy and all that) where they were trying to retain their ancestral lands against the French. so as usual, its the poor what gets the blame. the descendants of those Norman invaders of 1066 by the way still own 1/5 of England - with much of the rest owned by the Church of England and the Queen (a German). all in all though, its something of a toss up as to whether we dislike the French or the Germans more these days - but its more of a rivalry (not friendly) than ouright antipathy these days E I did not know the queen is German. The rivalry makes sense. I can see how tensions would go back centuries. But if you factor in- that banks caused alot of the wars and funded both sides- that- the blame lies in the money changers. Whoever they are. The Queen is Illuminatti... which current riff between member in the US and EU- of that Illuminatti- basically since the US has a print press at the moment. It is mindbogling that the top brass- the methods dont vary much- but the regular folk fall for it again and again- and this time it is even worse since we are supposedly educated with fine universtities and technology. But here we are on the door step of a very dark era and 99.9% on this side of the pond are too distracted to know it. ducks from flying shoes

pahunkboy -> RE: North vs. South (6/14/2009 5:20:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Irishknight I am definately a southerner. I was born in Arkansas, raised for most of my life in Arkansas, swore I never wanted to come back here and now I don't ever want to leave again. I live among the friendliest people (imo) in the world and I wouldn't want to leave this community for anything. Bob Chapman says Arkansas will fare better then most any other state during this depression. Stay put. He is a smart man. :-)

Level -> RE: North vs. South (6/14/2009 5:26:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stella41b Do you identify as a Northerner or someone from the North or a Southerner or someone from the South? Or do you identify as being from somewhere other than North or South? What makes it so? And how does your culture differ from that in other regions? How do you perceive those from the North and/or those from the South? I identify as an American first, closely followed by being a Texan, with being southern a distant third.

LaTigresse -> RE: North vs. South (6/14/2009 5:28:32 PM)
I was born and raised here in small town Iowa, technically a midwesterner. I like to think we had the best of north and south. Lots of really friendly people, very warm and welcoming, always willing to help a person in need. Some things I am less than thrilled about, but I don't think any place is absolutely perfect. I've never identified as a northerner, never even thought about it. I am an Iowan and an American.

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