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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 5:55:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		i'm a texan.  from small town texas.  a while i was home for a bit, and had stopped at the wee little store to pick up bread for my grandmother.  i'm bent over picking it up off the bottom shelf at the store and from behind me hear "ok, which c**** girl are you?"  yeah...identified by my arse.    i told the store owner who i belonged to ("i'm john's girl") and she told me to tell granny hi for her and asked if she needed anything else.  she knew who i was buying for by *what* i was buying.

that was something i *missed* dreadfully when i was gone from texas.

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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 5:57:59 PM   
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I am an Iowan and an American.


I word myself the same.  The first... then the country.    Pennsylvanian and an American.    It wasn't always that way. 

The word "American" has been tainted.  Or at least my awareness of it.   The fed has too much power.  We have to return to states rights.    So I note the order you worded that.  :-)      Statistically the odds are better that a state will come up with some new idea -sooner then the bought off fed.   Which the fed is really more like off shore bankers.   Not the "real America"

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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 6:08:22 PM   
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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 6:19:56 PM   
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Texan by choice, Kansas by birth


Alot of people don't realize that Texas is a state by treaty- one that renews each year automatically.  When Perry made his comment- it would not have been that hard to leave....

"sings the yellow rose of Texas" Oh the yellow rose of Texas! ;-0

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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 7:04:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		PA, sadly I don't really get too excited about being patriotic or feel proud of where I live. I prefer to have people determine my worth on my personal behaviour, not that of others.

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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 7:19:48 PM   
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PA, sadly I don't really get too excited about being patriotic or feel proud of where I live. I prefer to have people determine my worth on my personal behaviour, not that of others.


Nothing wrong with having pride in your family and ancestors is there?

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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 7:21:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was born and raised in Michigan, which I have always considered the north. However most people call it the mid-west. Not sure why. I lived in Fl for about 10 years and things down there moved at a much slower pace. I like it there better but my family is up here so this is where I stay.

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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 7:39:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am Southern through and through.
I have the accent, I love the southern culture, the southern food and most of all the friendly part of it.
I have been back and forth the last 6 years.
The north just seems to smother me. It seems harsh and cold.
You dont seem to have neighbors just people that live on the same block.

I am happily planted back in Southern land.
People wave if they see you on the street, neighbors hail good morning with a friendly wave.
Cashiers actually talk to you and are friendly.

No matter how hard I tried in nyc, no one even looks at you, it seems its taboo to make eye contact.

While Im from Texas, I not particularly very tied to it. Most of my family still lives there, actually the majority.

When living with sis in nyc she had the nerve to suggest I tame my accent.  I told her I would rather eat worms and die.  I dont think she has but maybe 2% southern left in her.

I do love my south.

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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 8:00:53 PM   
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Bob Chapman says Arkansas will fare better then most any other state during this depression.    Stay put.   He is a smart man.  :-)


lol... thats because everyone here is already broke.  We've been NAFTAed out of jobs and can't fall very much further in many parts of the state.

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RE: North vs. South - 6/15/2009 4:03:10 AM   
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PA, sadly I don't really get too excited about being patriotic or feel proud of where I live. I prefer to have people determine my worth on my personal behaviour, not that of others.


Nothing wrong with having pride in your family and ancestors is there?

Butch


When I find something there to be proud of, I will let you know. Those I know about, were deeply flawed individuals, as most people are. I would rather stand on my own merit than that of dead people.

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RE: North vs. South - 6/15/2009 4:44:02 AM   
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Do you identify as a Northerner or someone from the North or a Southerner or someone from the South? Or do you identify as being from somewhere other than North or South? What makes it so? And how does your culture differ from that in other regions? How do you perceive those from the North and/or those from the South?


I am from the North, I always used to consider myself a Northerner, even when I moved down sarf, others used to comment I was the way I was because I was a Northerner. But now, now I am in the far SouthWest, I have forgotten this North/South thing, as,  it is irrelevant. Irrelevant because everyone born wherever ends up everywhere. Where I am now, others notice my accent from time to time, but no comments are made, no one I guess really cares, one of the attractions of where I have come to live, for I long knew everyone makes their way down here at some point, if not to live, but to take vacation here.People here are generally so relaxed to bother about classifying others into one group or other, except those who need to identify with an ideal of the past.


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RE: North vs. South - 6/15/2009 4:50:50 AM   
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RE: North vs. South - 6/15/2009 4:52:59 AM   
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I was born and raised in Michigan, which I have always considered the north. However most people call it the mid-west. Not sure why. I lived in Fl for about 10 years and things down there moved at a much slower pace. I like it there better but my family is up here so this is where I stay.


Oh yes things in Florida are a lot more slower then the mid-west. Use to live in Ohio. Now I even take a nap in the afternoon like all the other workers down here:)

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RE: North vs. South - 6/15/2009 4:58:25 AM   
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Do you identify as a Northerner or someone from the North or a Southerner or someone from the South? Or do you identify as being from somewhere other than North or South? What makes it so? And how does your culture differ from that in other regions? How do you perceive those from the North and/or those from the South?

I identify as a Texan. Once a Texan, always a Texan.

With that said, I was born in Indiana, lived there until 22, and then moved to Texas with my late husband ( which is where he was originally from ). Lived in Texas until about 7 years ago when I brought the youngins back here for work reasons.

I still identify as a Texan though. And yes, I still have the accent.

Why do I identify as a Texan? Because small town Texas values and I blended very well; the 'don't fuck with me and mine' attitude was one that I had when I moved down there and it only got reinforced during my living there. Living there 'fit' me.

As for cultures; there are not too many differences really, when you think about it. Everyone pretty much lives the same, just in different ways.

Northerners are yankees LOL Even though I live in Indiana again; I still call us Yankees. Probably always will.

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RE: North vs. South - 6/15/2009 5:07:16 AM   
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Bob Chapman says Arkansas will fare better then most any other state during this depression.    Stay put.   He is a smart man.  :-)


Why does he say that?  We haven't fared too bad, our unemployment is hovering around 6.5%.  But we are still one of the poorest states.

As to the original question.  I'm a Southerner.  I was born in West Virginia (technically a border state).  My dad grew up in West "By God" Virginia.  My mother grew up around Columbus, Georgia which is on the border with Alabama.  So she's definitely a Southern girl.  My family moved to Arkansas when I was 5.  I grew up here.  I swore I'd leave the first chance I got.  I have left a few times, but I always end up coming back. 

I like the South because we are more polite and laid back.  The pace is slower; people aren't in a hurry here. 

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RE: North vs. South - 6/15/2009 5:34:37 AM   
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RE: North vs. South - 6/15/2009 12:57:42 PM   
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Bob Chapman says Arkansas will fare better then most any other state during this depression.    Stay put.   He is a smart man.  :-)


Why does he say that?  We haven't fared too bad, our unemployment is hovering around 6.5%.  But we are still one of the poorest states.

As to the original question.  I'm a Southerner.  I was born in West Virginia (technically a border state).  My dad grew up in West "By God" Virginia.  My mother grew up around Columbus, Georgia which is on the border with Alabama.  So she's definitely a Southern girl.  My family moved to Arkansas when I was 5.  I grew up here.  I swore I'd leave the first chance I got.  I have left a few times, but I always end up coming back. 

I like the South because we are more polite and laid back.  The pace is slower; people aren't in a hurry here. 


I am not really sure why he said that.  But he was serious.  I guess- there will be pockets of good and bad- today Chapman said we have a year things will be sort of ok- as the (fake) stimulus -which was conveniently timed for the 2010 election.

I don't know if he said the Ozarks.  But he said this time around people will be more violent as they are more dependent on government and such- where as last time- the people were mainly farmers..and somewhat self sufficient.

Chapman doesn't think anywhere will be safe per se.  Tho Swiss could be decent tho pricey.

He said we have 3 years till we see 1940 conditions. 

It puzzels me- that- of all 50 states- Ark was mentioned- but no other.  and as I mentioned- he wasnt being snide or sarcastic when he made the comment. 

IMO if an area is IFFY now- it will go. If there is some semblance of law and order it has more of a chance-- and the less that is imported from other regions - the better.

Locally- the Valley here thinks we can benefit from Wall Steets loss.  The law is pretty strict here. I mean EVERYONE has an infraction- and jail is for real.  So hopefully I live in one of the pockets that wont get hit as bad.

Think about it- trucks might not make it to the city- as they could be highjacked for the food or goods to trade.... and truckers wont deliver into riot areas.....  so importing everything isnt good.



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RE: North vs. South - 6/15/2009 1:02:03 PM   
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I am Southern through and through.
I have the accent, I love the southern culture, the southern food and most of all the friendly part of it.
I have been back and forth the last 6 years.
The north just seems to smother me. It seems harsh and cold.
You dont seem to have neighbors just people that live on the same block.

I am happily planted back in Southern land.
People wave if they see you on the street, neighbors hail good morning with a friendly wave.
Cashiers actually talk to you and are friendly.

No matter how hard I tried in nyc, no one even looks at you, it seems its taboo to make eye contact.

While Im from Texas, I not particularly very tied to it. Most of my family still lives there, actually the majority.

When living with sis in nyc she had the nerve to suggest I tame my accent.  I told her I would rather eat worms and die.  I dont think she has but maybe 2% southern left in her.

I do love my south.



HugS!   

Yeah- we lost the saying hi thing- we are loosing it. I wish I could move to the northern tier.  Some say when the mall opened- people changed but that was 1975.

other then that- I know my neighbors and wont have it any other way.     If there is a situation- I go to them- or they come to me.  We know that the area relies on us keeping out eyes open.



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RE: North vs. South - 6/15/2009 1:15:46 PM   
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http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=TheBobChapmanChannel&view=videos


http://theinternationalforecaster.com/


Stuff per Chapman.   I have listened to hours hours of him on interview hosts trying to put words in his mouth.  He is no circus clown.    Ex CIA.  I find his candor to be straight talk.  No BS.  No sugar coating.  Tell me the truth -in so far as my well being goes- is how I feel. Dont jack me around.    Most so called experts are carnival clowns- simply there to fill seats.   Chapman is old school.   There are a few others that are ok- but they dont get to the punchline or the mechanics of the ordeal.  Where as this guy does.     Peek around.  My brother hated this guy at first.  Now when I talk about Chapman- my brother gets quiet- like- ut oh. SO thats what is going on!! Duh.  He isnt totally there yet- I tell him to file the info back of his brain- in case he neeeds it later...

I love it when he comes right out and tells it like it is.  Maybe it is uncouth- crude- not PC.  but hey- trillions my friend.
TRILLIONS.

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RE: North vs. South - 6/15/2009 5:29:28 PM   
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