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Gwynvyd -> RE: Breastfeeding, taboo or not (6/18/2009 9:41:37 PM)

Holy shit, my fucked up state did something right for once!

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Fla. Stat. Ann. § 383.015
1993 Fl. ALS 4; 1993 Fla. Laws ch. 4; 1993 Fla. HB 231
The breast feeding of a baby is an important and basic act of nurture which must be encouraged in the interests of maternal and child health and family values. A mother may breast feed her baby in any location, public or private, where the mother is otherwise authorized to be, irrespective of whether or not the nipple of the mother's breast is covered during or incidental to the breast feeding.
Fla. Stat. 800.02, 800.03, 800.04
Statute language omitted. These statutes exclude breastfeeding from various sexual offenses, from the definition of an unnatural and lascivious act.
Fla. Stat. § 827.071 (Child abuse statute)
(g) "Sexual conduct" means ... A mother’s breastfeeding of her baby does not under any circumstances constitute "sexual conduct."
Fla .Stat. §383.016, , 383.016, 383.311, and 363.318
Section 383.016 of the Florida Statutes, provides for a breast-feeding encouragement policy for facilities providing maternity services and newborn infant care and authorizing use of "baby-friendly" designation. Sections 383.016, 383.311, and 363.318 of the Florida Statutes relating to breast feeding, administration of maternal and child health programs, education for birth center clients, and postpartum care for birth center clients, requiring encouragement of breastfeeding".




Asherdelampyr -> RE: Breastfeeding, taboo or not (6/18/2009 9:45:54 PM)

Nice
UTAH Utah enacted legislation clarifying a woman’s right to breastfeed in public, even if there was some exposure of the breast. It exempts breastfeeding from indecent exposure statutes. Utah is also one of the few states in the U.S. that provides consideration of breastfeeding in family law cases. The lack of reasonable alternatives of a nursing child is a factor the court can consider in determining whether the standard parenting schedule would apply. Note that under their guidelines, full weekend visitation and one-week periods in the summer would begin at 18 months of age. Added by Acts 2003, 78th Leg., ch. 1274, § 3, eff. April 1, 2005. Utah Code Ann. § 10-8-41, § 10-8-50, § 17-15-25, § 76-9-702, § 76-10-1229.5, 10-8-41. Prostitution, lewd or perverted acts, gambling, and obscene or lewd publications.
   (2) (a) A woman's breast feeding, including breast feeding in any place where the woman otherwise may rightfully be, does not under any circumstance constitute an obscene or lewd act, irrespective of whether or not the breast is covered during or incidental to feeding.
      (b) Boards of Commissioners and City Councils of Cities may not prohibit a woman's breast feeding in any location where she otherwise may rightfully be, irrespective of whether the breast is uncovered during or incidental to the breastfeeding. 10-8-50. Disturbing the peace -- Public intoxication -- Fighting -- Obscene language -- Disorderly conduct -- Lewd behavior -- Interference with officers -- Trespass.
(3) (a) A woman's breast feeding, including breast feeding in any place where the woman otherwise may rightfully be, does not under any circumstance constitute a lewd or indecent act, irrespective of whether or not the breast is covered during or incidental to feeding.
   (b) Boards of Commissioners and City Councils of Cities may not prohibit a woman's breast feeding in any location where she otherwise may rightfully be, irrespective of whether the breast is uncovered during or incidental to the breastfeeding. 17-15-25. Right to Breast Feed.
The County Legislative Bodies may not prohibit a woman's breast feeding in any location where she otherwise may rightfully be, irrespective of whether the breast is uncovered during or incidental to the breastfeeding. 76-9-702. Lewdness -- Gross lewdness.
(5) A woman's breast feeding, including breast feeding in any place where the woman otherwise may rightfully be, does not under any circumstance constitute a lewd or grossly lewd act, irrespective of whether or not the breast is covered during or incidental to feeding. 76-10-1229.5. Breast Feeding is not Violation of this Part.
A woman's breast feeding, including breast feeding in any location where the woman otherwise may rightfully be, does not under any circumstance constitute a violation of this part, irrespective of whether or not the breast is covered during or incidental to feeding.
:D Utah is full of Mothers, so I expected something similar to this





Gwynvyd -> RE: Breastfeeding, taboo or not (6/18/2009 10:02:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

well wait...if it were all about me (or whomever) the majority of nursing moms would not be as discrete as we are

I would never wear a profane tee shirt in public...it is offensive to quite a few and not necessary.  Nursing IS necessary and done properly should be offensive to no one.





Damn.. I have worn offensive T-shirts in public... I now that I am old/wiser maybe? feel that I can not wear them any more.

My fave is one my slave Boi got me that has Bush and his band of goobers dressed up as movie macho guys... Condi is dressed up as Zena even, Dubbya as Rambo... ect. It says "Meet the Fuckers"
http://bcheap.com/mefut.html 

I used to wear it... hell I wore it to a GLBT meeting at church once. they loved it. When my Minister walked in I wanted to hide under the table. ( I tried to till someone pointed it out to him) so I showed him it ( they made me) and he laughed and just shook his head at me.

The moral of the story is never say, wear, or do anything in public that you wouldnt want your minister to see or hear.  

oooh you could get thrown off a plane wearing my shirt! Coolies! http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2005/10/06/meet-the-fuckers-not-on-southwest-airlines/ 

Gwyn,
Thinking she should breastfeed while wearing the shirt.... in a govt office!

Edited to add I think I just might wear it to St. Pete Pride later on this month.




Asherdelampyr -> RE: Breastfeeding, taboo or not (6/18/2009 10:23:11 PM)

I have a bunch of possibly offensive shirts, my favorite says "Kiss me I'm a Sadist"





Loki45 -> RE: Breastfeeding, taboo or not (6/18/2009 10:59:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Asherdelampyr
I have a bunch of possibly offensive shirts, my favorite says "Kiss me I'm a Sadist"


The only "kinda" offensive one I had was the one with the saying from The Rock. It's strange, I used to buy lots of shirts from hot topic with those clever little sayings on them. I bought them because I liked the sayings, but I never wore them. Oh wait, I wore one. It was very small print with a dotted line about chest-high that said "You must be this tall to ride this ride."




Vendaval -> RE: Breastfeeding, taboo or not (6/18/2009 11:00:41 PM)

One of my favorite offensive T-shirts had a cartoon of a worm on top of a crinkle cut fry.
The caption read, "Knock it off asshole, I'm a french fry!" [8D]




Asherdelampyr -> RE: Breastfeeding, taboo or not (6/18/2009 11:01:10 PM)

I buy a lot of shirts from tshirt hell and Arsenic Fashions





Loki45 -> RE: Breastfeeding, taboo or not (6/18/2009 11:01:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Gwynvyd
What should be covered up is G-Money-Home-Slice and his underware showing with his baggy ass pants sans a belt. It looks like they have a load in their pants.


Many places are working on that. Even Obama said "Brothers need to pull up their pants." Which I thought was HILARIOUS.




WyldHrt -> RE: Breastfeeding, taboo or not (6/18/2009 11:14:15 PM)

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Good gods. 22 pages. I am not reading them all.

Ok, Gwyn has arrived.
*kicks back with a bowl of popcorn and waits for aravain* [sm=popcorn.gif]




JonnieBoy -> RE: Breastfeeding, taboo or not (6/19/2009 4:28:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

Think Jonnie (or she) would mind if we put her on the bottom of the perv pile? [:D]


Translate "perv pile" into non-legal, east of the Atlantic terms? (paying particular attention to it's impact on the rights of breastfeeding babies ... of course[;)] )

Pirate




SavageFaerie -> RE: Breastfeeding, taboo or not (6/19/2009 4:29:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: brandi1379

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ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch

brandi,

I would have whipped the other one out and squirted her!



OMG LMAO i would have never thought of that at the time.....but thats some funny shit right there lol



My second husband was wigged out about breastfeeding.  I always made sure to squirt a little his way, it was well worth the laugh.

About the dominatrix Barbie LOL My uber vanilla sister collects barbies.  Im so tempted to get her one for her bday ROFL  I cnat even say the work kink around her without her through her hand out and saying TMI




LaTigresse -> RE: Breastfeeding, taboo or not (6/19/2009 8:08:01 AM)

My uptight religious sister refuses to visit my house now. I have old Vargas pinups framed and hanging in my living room and some old black and white photos of nude and partially nude, women in the spare bedroom/my closet. And several nude or partially nude female sculptures scattered around the house.

Oh, and I occasionally play things like old Aerosmith CD's, satan's music yanno.




kittinSol -> RE: Breastfeeding, taboo or not (6/19/2009 8:21:26 AM)

I'd send her a Judas Priest CD for her birthday [8D] .




sirsholly -> RE: Breastfeeding, taboo or not (6/19/2009 8:23:32 AM)

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Oh, and I occasionally play things like old Aerosmith CD's, satan's music yanno.


see...evil, evil woman [sm=shame.gif]




cpK69 -> RE: Breastfeeding, taboo or not (6/19/2009 8:40:55 AM)

When I was about eight, one of my babysitter’s daughters gave birth to her first child. She used cloth diapers, and breast fed. I don’t recall her using a blanket to cover herself/ the baby’s face.
 
I’m glad I had that experience, as I suspect it is part of the reason I don’t have a complex about seeing someone breast feeding their child, regardless of where they might be, or how much is visible.
 
Kim




LaTigresse -> RE: Breastfeeding, taboo or not (6/19/2009 8:51:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

I'd send her a Judas Priest CD for her birthday [8D] .


Laughing.......

You should see some of the emails I've forwarded her.......[:D]




LafayetteLady -> RE: Breastfeeding, taboo or not (6/19/2009 4:34:21 PM)

Ok, I won't jump on the should or shouldn't they train.  I will say that I believe that any woman doing so should be discreet, because someone else may not want to have that particular conversation with their youngster yet, and like it is inappropriate for "lifestyle" people to involve the "general public", I think it is also inappropriate for someone, by way of indiscretion, to force someone else to have a conversation with their youngster before they feel it is appropriate.

What I am curious about though, and I admit I have not read all 29 pages of this thread, is that there is no age limit in the law on breast feeding in public.  There are quite a few women who choose to breast feed for very extended periods of time.  In the continental US, the oldest I have heard of is eight, but I heard also that there are some in Alaska who will breast feed into the teens!

So logically, for those who feel this is a completely normal rational thing, do you also think that it is completely appropriate for an eight year old to go unbutton mommy's top in McDonald's and breast feed?




cpK69 -> RE: Breastfeeding, taboo or not (6/19/2009 4:46:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

Ok, I won't jump on the should or shouldn't they train.  I will say that I believe that any woman doing so should be discreet, because someone else may not want to have that particular conversation with their youngster yet, and like it is inappropriate for "lifestyle" people to involve the "general public", I think it is also inappropriate for someone, by way of indiscretion, to force someone else to have a conversation with their youngster before they feel it is appropriate.



Should people really live their lives concerned with what other people aren’t ready for yet?

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So logically, for those who feel this is a completely normal rational thing, do you also think that it is completely appropriate for an eight year old to go unbutton mommy's top in McDonald's and breast feed?


Interesting scenario; I’ve heard of some that breastfeed for longer periods of time, but do you really think that is how it would go down?

I doubt it would be much harder to explain then the eight yr old who still sucks a pacifier, or drinks from a bottle.

“Their mom hasn’t cut the cord yet.”

Kim




JonnieBoy -> RE: Breastfeeding, taboo or not (6/19/2009 4:46:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady
unbutton mommy's top in McDonald's and breast feed?


McDonalds is disgusting, tits are not ... with or without live suckling.

Pirate




LafayetteLady -> RE: Breastfeeding, taboo or not (6/19/2009 5:07:50 PM)

If you are going to do it in a public place, then yes, you need to concern yourself with what others may or may not be ready for.  Kind of why we leave the room when we pass gas.  So as not to disrupt the peace of those around us.

No it actually wouldn't be explain like that.  What would happen in all likelihood is that someone would call child protective services on the woman breastfeeding an eight year old in a public place, and while they were trying to decide whether it was her "right" or appropriate, the child would be sitting in foster care.

The child will continue to breast feed because that is what they know.  It is the parent's job to teach their child what is and is not appropriate as well as teaching them boundaries and what should be done in private.  Personally, I think beyond one, maybe two years is long enough.  However, if I see your school age child come up to you in a public place, unbutton your blouse and latch on, I will tell you that you should be doing that at home in private and in all liklihood, wean them off the boob.

Incidentally, if I saw an eight year old sucking on a pacifier or drinking from anything other than a soda bottle, I would likely comment to the parent that it is time for them to stop as well.

There is a law in NY that says women have the right to go topless.  It doesn't mean that they should.  Just like having the right to openly breast feed in public means there is no reason mom shouldn't be discreet about it. 




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